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Post by JUNIOR26 on May 11, 2022 9:42:48 GMT
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Post by evergreenadam on May 11, 2022 10:12:00 GMT
Seems sensible, some good new links retained.
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Post by VMH2537 on May 11, 2022 10:20:27 GMT
Interesting in the EqIA mentions that a frequency increase to 3bph was being considered to decrease waiting times.
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Post by vjaska on May 11, 2022 11:45:07 GMT
A no brainer, should be made permanent |
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Post by southlondonbus on May 11, 2022 11:57:42 GMT
A no brainer, should be made permanent TFl probably want a positive consultation to show an improvement they have made when in reality I can't see any opposition to this logical change. |
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Post by LondonNorthern on May 11, 2022 20:41:50 GMT
I agree with it remaining at Finchley Memorial Hospital although I would suggest some improved local links:
- Rather than routing it via the A1000, route it via Regents Park Road then down Granville Road. This would provide a useful link to the northern end of Finchley Central & also to the Waitrose which would be useful for locals with shopping.
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Post by LondonNorthern on May 11, 2022 20:43:00 GMT
Interesting in the EqIA mentions that a frequency increase to 3bph was being considered to decrease waiting times. I’m not sure such an increase is warranted - I think the service manages fine every 30 minutes & I think demand is matched quite well. |
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Post by danorak on May 12, 2022 11:15:26 GMT
Not local but I did wonder whether there was scope to serve some of the back streets south of Woodside Park rather than having a lengthy double-run.
I wonder how many responses might also propose an extension to Potters Bar...
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Post by ian on May 12, 2022 12:00:13 GMT
I agree with it remaining at Finchley Memorial Hospital although I would suggest some improved local links: - Rather than routing it via the A1000, route it via Regents Park Road then down Granville Road. This would provide a useful link to the northern end of Finchley Central & also to the Waitrose which would be useful for locals with shopping. I think you mean Ballards Lane rather then RP Road? Not sure, imagine there's not much in it either way in terms of benefits or costs. Likewise with the back streets point, you could maybe get a bus down Lodge Lane/Gainsborough but not sure if there is much gain in doing so. Must admit I did momentarily see '383' and 'extension' in the headline and think of Potters Bar... The proposal as it stands is pretty much a no brainer. |
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Post by uakari on May 16, 2022 7:08:49 GMT
So they have money to spend on extending the 383 at the southern end but not at the northern end to Potters Bar or even to Hadley Highstone. Exactly the same with the 234. Confirms what people already know that they prioritise some areas over others, and that they're peculiarly concerned with extending routes in Finchley for some reason. My objection will be based on dubious cost priorities when there are already bus stops for FMH within 400m.
383 could also take over some of the previous 384 roads/areas that now have no bus so that many households are now significantly further than 400m from a bus stop, so I'll be suggesting that too.
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Post by vjaska on May 16, 2022 9:52:53 GMT
So they have money to spend on extending the 383 at the southern end but not at the northern end to Potters Bar or even to Hadley Highstone. Exactly the same with the 234. Confirms what people already know that they prioritise some areas over others, and that they're peculiarly concerned with extending routes in Finchley for some reason. My objection will be based on dubious cost priorities when there are already bus stops for FMH within 400m. 383 could also take over some of the previous 384 roads/areas that now have no bus so that many households are now significantly further than 400m from a bus stop, so I'll be suggesting that too. Hospital links have been made a priority and a direct link to Finchley Memorial Hospital was one that has been laid out before with the 383 the most cost effective solution - it has nothing to do with being concerned about extending routes in Finchley. |
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Post by uakari on May 16, 2022 16:05:58 GMT
So they have money to spend on extending the 383 at the southern end but not at the northern end to Potters Bar or even to Hadley Highstone. Exactly the same with the 234. Confirms what people already know that they prioritise some areas over others, and that they're peculiarly concerned with extending routes in Finchley for some reason. My objection will be based on dubious cost priorities when there are already bus stops for FMH within 400m. 383 could also take over some of the previous 384 roads/areas that now have no bus so that many households are now significantly further than 400m from a bus stop, so I'll be suggesting that too. Hospital links have been made a priority and a direct link to Finchley Memorial Hospital was one that has been laid out before with the 383 the most cost effective solution - it has nothing to do with being concerned about extending routes in Finchley. Interesting then that people have been cut off from Barnet hospital by the 384 rerouting and loss of the 84, and that TfL have been replying to people with the statement that all extensions/new route proposals have been 'suspended as a result of the funding agreement with the department for transport'. They lie so casually. Finchley has seen the following extensions/new routes all in the last few years: 125, 112, 383, N271, with additional routes just announced to be running between East Finchley and Highgate. |
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Post by vjaska on May 16, 2022 18:26:06 GMT
Hospital links have been made a priority and a direct link to Finchley Memorial Hospital was one that has been laid out before with the 383 the most cost effective solution - it has nothing to do with being concerned about extending routes in Finchley. Interesting then that people have been cut off from Barnet hospital by the 384 rerouting and loss of the 84, and that TfL have been replying to people with the statement that all extensions/new route proposals have been 'suspended as a result of the funding agreement with the department for transport'. They lie so casually. Finchley has seen the following extensions/new routes all in the last few years: 125, 112, 383, N271, with additional routes just announced to be running between East Finchley and Highgate. I don’t disagree with what your saying but it can’t be denied that this, for once, is a sensible and a no brainer proposal and it’s disappointing to hear you’ll be opposing it though your within your right to do so |
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Post by VMH2537 on May 16, 2022 18:34:57 GMT
Hospital links have been made a priority and a direct link to Finchley Memorial Hospital was one that has been laid out before with the 383 the most cost effective solution - it has nothing to do with being concerned about extending routes in Finchley. Interesting then that people have been cut off from Barnet hospital by the 384 rerouting and loss of the 84, and that TfL have been replying to people with the statement that all extensions/new route proposals have been 'suspended as a result of the funding agreement with the department for transport'. They lie so casually. Finchley has seen the following extensions/new routes all in the last few years: 125, 112, 383, N271, with additional routes just announced to be running between East Finchley and Highgate. I'm a bit surprised you are concerned about the extensions to the 112 or the 125 as they were also meant to benefit users from north of Finchley aswell such as Barnet. Rather than taking the indirect 326 to Brent Cross, we can take take a more direct route to Brent Cross via interchanging at North Finchley. Yes the route can run through congestions on the North Circular, but you will still benefit from a much direct journey to Brent Cross from north of Finchley |
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Post by uakari on May 16, 2022 20:02:32 GMT
Interesting then that people have been cut off from Barnet hospital by the 384 rerouting and loss of the 84, and that TfL have been replying to people with the statement that all extensions/new route proposals have been 'suspended as a result of the funding agreement with the department for transport'. They lie so casually. Finchley has seen the following extensions/new routes all in the last few years: 125, 112, 383, N271, with additional routes just announced to be running between East Finchley and Highgate. I don’t disagree with what your saying but it can’t be denied that this, for once, is a sensible and a no brainer proposal and it’s disappointing to hear you’ll be opposing it though your within your right to do so TfL continually tell us they have no money, when this shows they do. Of course I wouldn't oppose it in ordinary circumstances but if this is what they are choosing to spend their money on and they really do have that little of it, it means these decisions directly reduce their ability to provide services where the need is greater, such as a route between Barnet and Potters Bar. |
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