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Post by richard on Oct 19, 2022 14:09:55 GMT
Watched PMQs today what a disater it was just a shouting match and nothing answerd they are just kids in the playground.the sooner the better when those idiots go the better. But if they go we might get Labour Party nutters! (Not as bad as the Tories though) Trust me the Tories are the worst at least the Labor is on our side. |
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Post by SILENCED on Oct 19, 2022 14:12:58 GMT
But if they go we might get Labour Party nutters! (Not as bad as the Tories though) Trust me the Tories are the worst at least the Labor is on our side. No politicians are on your side ... Labour leader is a upper class 'Sir' ... none of them have your interests at heart. only theirs, history is littered with governments from all sides that have fecked us over/ |
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Post by richard on Oct 19, 2022 14:18:05 GMT
Trust me the Tories are the worst at least the Labor is on our side. No politicians are on your side ... Labour leader is a upper class 'Sir' ... none of them have your interests at heart. only theirs, history is littered with governments from all sides that have fecked us over/ Sorry have to disagree it's the Right wing press that got the Tories in and have slated the labor party. |
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Post by SILENCED on Oct 19, 2022 14:29:45 GMT
No politicians are on your side ... Labour leader is a upper class 'Sir' ... none of them have your interests at heart. only theirs, history is littered with governments from all sides that have fecked us over/ Sorry have to disagree it's the Right wing press that got the Tories in and have slated the labor party. We had a change of council ... beforehand Party A was in power saying this is how it is, and Party B was saying no you are wrong, roles have reversed, Party B saying the same as Party A previously and now it is right, and Party A now saying it is wrong. Both parties are as bad as each other ... politicians of all ilk are only in it for what they can get out of it. Left and right politicians are seemingly corrupt at all levels. The party in power fecks you over, the opposition says they are bad, change at election, end result still the same, except parties other way around. Only taken me 50 years to realize this. PS we are not in the US |
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Post by southlondon413 on Oct 19, 2022 14:54:59 GMT
Sorry have to disagree it's the Right wing press that got the Tories in and have slated the labor party. We had a change of council ... beforehand Party A was in power saying this is how it is, and Party B was saying no you are wrong, roles have reversed, Party B saying the same as Party A previously and now it is right, and Party A now saying it is wrong. Both parties are as bad as each other ... politicians of all ilk are only in it for what they can get out of it. Left and right politicians are seemingly corrupt at all levels. The party in power fecks you over, the opposition says they are bad, change at election, end result still the same, except parties other way around. Only taken me 50 years to realize this. PS we are not in the US This a rare example of me agreeing with you. Absolutely nothing will change if the government changes because the same problems exist. The same complacent lethargy will eventually set it and the MSM will turn again. It happened under the last 13 year long Labour government and it has happened to the Tories after 12 years. Starmer might sound like a saviour but he is just another over educated arsehole in an overpriced suit. |
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Post by northlondon83 on Oct 19, 2022 15:20:42 GMT
We had a change of council ... beforehand Party A was in power saying this is how it is, and Party B was saying no you are wrong, roles have reversed, Party B saying the same as Party A previously and now it is right, and Party A now saying it is wrong. Both parties are as bad as each other ... politicians of all ilk are only in it for what they can get out of it. Left and right politicians are seemingly corrupt at all levels. The party in power fecks you over, the opposition says they are bad, change at election, end result still the same, except parties other way around. Only taken me 50 years to realize this. PS we are not in the US This a rare example of me agreeing with you. Absolutely nothing will change if the government changes because the same problems exist. The same complacent lethargy will eventually set it and the MSM will turn again. It happened under the last 13 year long Labour government and it has happened to the Tories after 12 years. Starmer might sound like a saviour but he is just another over educated arsehole in an overpriced suit. problem is that there isn't really any government right now strong enough to replace the Tories. |
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Post by LD71YLO (BE37054) on Oct 19, 2022 16:07:37 GMT
Grant Shapps (who is calling on the 1922 Committee to allow a Truss confidence vote) is now Home Secretary after Suella Braverman resigns.
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Post by WH241 on Oct 19, 2022 16:47:19 GMT
The government is beyond crisis point now where changes are almost happening by the hour!
I never thought I would say this but things were much more stable under Boris and Rishi! We can't seriously carry on like this until 2024? I was expecting Liz Truss to resign this week but don't think she will.
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Post by northlondon83 on Oct 19, 2022 17:01:36 GMT
I was expecting Liz Truss to resign this week but don't think she will. In your dreams! It will take until at least Christmas for Liz Truss to topple, either through resignation, or far more likely she will get forced out some way or another. |
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Post by ServerKing on Oct 19, 2022 17:51:33 GMT
Grant Shapps (who is calling on the 1922 Committee to allow a Truss confidence vote) is now Home Secretary after Suella Braverman resigns. This is like Antonio Conte managing Arsenal  I have no idea why Liz Truss brought in Grant Shapps, who was so opposed to her, as her Home Secretary  It is in the "You couldn't make this up" category now - apparently a vote on Fracking shale gas to be held tonight is a Confidence Vote in Truss, as she vows to kick out any who won't support her out of the Tory Party. The government is as strong as the back-light on a 476 bus blind  |
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Post by wirewiper on Oct 19, 2022 17:59:14 GMT
Grant Shapps (who is calling on the 1922 Committee to allow a Truss confidence vote) is now Home Secretary after Suella Braverman resigns. This is like Antonio Conte managing Arsenal I have no idea why Liz Truss brought in Grant Shapps, who was so opposed to her, as her Home Secretary It is in the "You couldn't make this up" category now - apparently a vote on Fracking shale gas to be held tonight is a Confidence Vote in Truss, as she vows to kick out any who won't support her out of the Tory Party. The government is as strong as the back-light on a 476 bus blind Labour has tabled an opposition day motion which, if passed, would guarantee future parliamentary time for a bill that would ban fracking. This puts conservative MPs in an uncomfortable position, as if they back their Government and oppose the motion they could be punished at the ballot box. Several "Red Wall" MPs are particularly vulnerable as their constituencies are, or will be, in areas that are adversely affected by fracking activity. |
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Post by northlondon83 on Oct 19, 2022 18:12:36 GMT
Grant Shapps (who is calling on the 1922 Committee to allow a Truss confidence vote) is now Home Secretary after Suella Braverman resigns. Trying to force through a confidence vote too early on will be detrimental since Truss will survive if a vote is passed too soon. Having said that, if somehow she resigns or there is a change of leadership, the alternative will probably be no better. The current government is operating at speeds worse than when the District line has severe delays, and has been stuck ever since the days of Theresa May. Arguably Boris could have done better had he not let his personality get the better of him, he just didn't take his job seriously |
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Post by ServerKing on Oct 19, 2022 18:52:13 GMT
Typical. You wait ages for a resignation, and two come along at once  Chief Whip for Tories has quit, and apparently there was a fight in the lobby in Parliament as the Tories were forcing people in to vote on this Fracking Bill. Liz Truss apparently "abstained" due to dealing with the latest resignation. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11332607/Suella-Braverman-QUITS-Home-Secretary.htmlThere will be more throughout the night, eventually... Not sure if Grant Shapps is a "cheeky borrow" like a Wood Green ENN on the 318's, as neither seem to stick around for long |
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Post by northlondon83 on Oct 19, 2022 19:44:31 GMT
Typical. You wait ages for a resignation, and two come along at once Was hoping to hear that Liz Truss has resigned but unfortunately not. She will eventually when she finally realised that she's utter sh1te but that won't happen for about 3 years. I also don't like all this government shuffling around, it makes them look like the government can't operate properly since they resign so often |
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Post by WH241 on Oct 19, 2022 19:58:49 GMT
Typical. You wait ages for a resignation, and two come along at once Was hoping to hear that Liz Truss has resigned but unfortunately not. She will eventually when she finally realised that she's utter sh1te but that won't happen for about 3 years. I also don't like all this government shuffling around, it makes them look like the government can't operate properly since they resign so often You do realise if the government survives until 2024 they probably have zero chance of being elected. She will be gone before 3 years.
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I have no idea why Liz Truss brought in Grant Shapps, who was so opposed to her, as her Home Secretary 
It is in the "You couldn't make this up" category now - apparently a vote on Fracking shale gas to be held tonight is a Confidence Vote in Truss, as she vows to kick out any who won't support her out of the Tory Party. The government is as strong as the back-light on a 476 bus blind 
