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Post by vjaska on Nov 24, 2023 23:03:16 GMT
Shame, very dull sounding indeed - once they'll done, they'll no longer be my favourites and that title will go to the 72 stock instead I love the DC motors on the 1992 stock, they sound nice and seem pretty iconic Is the DC motors the original ones or the new ones?
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Post by richard on Nov 24, 2023 23:11:14 GMT
I love the DC motors on the 1992 stock, they sound nice and seem pretty iconic Is the DC motors the original ones or the new ones? I believe they are new ones the same ones as used on the S stock
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Post by vjaska on Nov 24, 2023 23:16:15 GMT
Is the DC motors the original ones or the new ones? I believe they are new ones the same ones as used on the S stock Ah, then no I don't like them on the 92 stock - fine for the S stock but much prefer the unique sounds of the original 92 motors
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Post by joefrombow on Nov 24, 2023 23:45:50 GMT
Thank you looks good just seen a picture of it and also of the Rail Adhesion Train , one more question though , How does the RAT run with the Central Line signalling ? Has this been converted to ATO or does it have on board signalling ? I know a few stations on the line have starter signals at stations but yeah interesting how it all runs together .
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Post by joefrombow on Nov 24, 2023 23:48:16 GMT
Shame, very dull sounding indeed - once they'll done, they'll no longer be my favourites and that title will go to the 72 stock instead I love the DC motors on the 1992 stock, they sound nice and seem pretty iconic It's weird sounds like a mix of both S stock and 92 sounds , Also similar to the 321s when they had new Traction Motors fitted and ( Only to be taken out of service 2/3 years later what a waste of money )
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Post by B9TL205 on Nov 25, 2023 9:15:38 GMT
I love the DC motors on the 1992 stock, they sound nice and seem pretty iconic Is the DC motors the original ones or the new ones? Oh the DC motors are the original ones, not the new motors. Apologies should've made my post a bit more clear π
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Post by vjaska on Nov 25, 2023 11:36:52 GMT
Is the DC motors the original ones or the new ones? Oh the DC motors are the original ones, not the new motors. Apologies should've made my post a bit more clear π No problem, Itβs all good, yeah I much prefer those motors as well
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Post by Dstock7080 on Nov 25, 2023 18:27:18 GMT
How does the RAT run with the Central Line signalling ? Has this been converted to ATO or does it have on board signalling ? I know a few stations on the line have starter signals at stations but yeah interesting how it all runs together . The RAT is driven manually on the Central, the driver reacts to either lineside signals or the in-cab speed recommended display. The RAT cannot operate automatically.
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Post by southlondonbus on Nov 25, 2023 22:11:38 GMT
I'm guessing the 2 refurbishment trains will come into regular service then another 2 will go for treatment.
The reduced timetable from early 2020 (2 less trains from Epping to Debden) would allow up to 5 trains to be sent off for refurb?
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Post by Dstock7080 on Nov 26, 2023 6:42:29 GMT
Only one train has been released from Acton and there are 5 currently in progress.
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Post by southlondonbus on Nov 26, 2023 8:13:51 GMT
Only one train has been released from Acton and there are 5 currently in progress. Good to know. Probably by the end of next year they may start to become a regular sight as they can probably mananage about 20 to 25 trains a year if each one takes 10 weeks and 5 can be done at once.
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Post by southlondonbus on Nov 26, 2023 12:00:08 GMT
The shuttle today is being run with just one train. Running to platform 2 at Woodford then straight back out again from there and the same at Hainault with a driver at each end of the train. Could this work most of the week to save a train for re furb/use elsewhere?
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Post by Dstock7080 on Nov 26, 2023 13:51:03 GMT
The original plan for the CLIP programme was for the shuttle to be two single driver 4-cars but difficulties with gapping prevented this
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Post by southlondonbus on Nov 26, 2023 16:53:52 GMT
The original plan for the CLIP programme was for the shuttle to be two single driver 4-cars but difficulties with gapping prevented this That's right which does mean that 1 less train is freed up now based on the original plans. So either one less each time can be sent off or another journey has to be withdrawn to allow one less train to be needed on the main service. Whilst it could easily cope, dropping the shuttle to every 30 mins probably wouldn't go down well at all. It would possibly work if as a compromise a through service was run via Woodford (ie Hainault to Central London via Woodford which is the quicker route) and it was timetabled at every stop such as the xx12 snd xx42 from Stratford in order for people to plan around it like with the Amersham and Chesham trains.
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Post by wirewiper on Nov 26, 2023 17:10:06 GMT
The original plan for the CLIP programme was for the shuttle to be two single driver 4-cars but difficulties with gapping prevented this That's right which does mean that 1 less train is freed up now based on the original plans. So either one less each time can be sent off or another journey has to be withdrawn to allow one less train to be needed on the main service. Whilst it could easily cope, dropping the shuttle to every 30 mins probably wouldn't go down well at all. It would possibly work if as a compromise a through service was run via Woodford (ie Hainault to Central London via Woodford which is the quicker route) and it was timetabled at every stop such as the xx12 snd xx42 from Stratford in order for people to plan around it like with the Amersham and Chesham trains. I remember reports from May that the Monday-Friday service had been reduced by removing diagrams from the Working Timetable - three all-day diagrams were removed completely whilst three spreadover diagrams only operate in the morning and three only in the afternoon. I wonder if a new reduced Working Timetable will appear in due course, this will enable resources to be used more effectively by thinning out services on the outer sections. This would allow more through trains to operate on the Hainault-Woodford Line, possibly at the expense of some Epping trains.
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