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The Queen
Sept 13, 2022 20:17:06 GMT
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Post by TA1 on Sept 13, 2022 20:17:06 GMT
Those lazy, greedy railway workers will once again silently doing their bit to keep the country moving in the mourning period. In regards to GTR, they’ll be running overnight services. - The Brighton Mainline TL service will remain as it is in terms of frequency, the service will extend from Three Bridges down to Brighton. - Southern hourly London Victoria to Gatwick Service calling at Clapham Jct and East Croydon. - Midland Mainline - Current level of overnight Thameslink Service. - East Coast Mainline - Two hourly semi-fast service to Peterborough and two hourly semi fast service to Cambridge (resulting in hourly service from London King’s Cross to Stevenage and Hitchin). The vast majority of these services are 2x387 operated. Network Rail managed stations will be open 24/7 Don't see why doing any of this requires a massive inflation in pay to a point it affects customers? I can't imagine public perception of railway workers will improve upon hearing this, they're not the only ones that have had a change of working pattern because of this. Care to elaborate on your first point? No, but it appears as mentioned many entities and sectors are closing for the day. Just seen that a cinema chain is postponing all cinema listings, showing the funeral live, but no refreshments to be served bar bottled water. 🤷🏾♂️
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Sept 13, 2022 20:25:44 GMT
Don't see why doing any of this requires a massive inflation in pay to a point it affects customers? I can't imagine public perception of railway workers will improve upon hearing this, they're not the only ones that have had a change of working pattern because of this. Care to elaborate on your first point? No, but it appears as mentioned many entities and sectors are closing for the day. Just seen that a cinema chain is postponing all cinema listings, showing the funeral live, but no refreshments to be served bar bottled water. 🤷🏾♂️ Doctors, nurses and other emergency services aren't striking every few days and closing hospitals, police bases and fire stations down. All still have to provide a service through the Bank Holiday, so why exactly do rail workers need a raise specifically just for doing this?
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Post by TA1 on Sept 13, 2022 20:34:09 GMT
Care to elaborate on your first point? No, but it appears as mentioned many entities and sectors are closing for the day. Just seen that a cinema chain is postponing all cinema listings, showing the funeral live, but no refreshments to be served bar bottled water. 🤷🏾♂️ Doctors, nurses and other emergency services aren't striking every few days and closing hospitals, police bases and fire stations down. All still have to provide a service through the Bank Holiday, so why exactly do rail workers need a raise specifically just for doing this? There are no additional financial incentives, except usual bank holiday pay - day in lieu or time & a quarter, time & a half or in some extremely rare cases double. All GP & Operations are cancelled on Monday, how comes you’ve not chastised them? Or is your disdain only towards the Railway sector for whatever reason.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Sept 13, 2022 20:36:42 GMT
Doctors, nurses and other emergency services aren't striking every few days and closing hospitals, police bases and fire stations down. All still have to provide a service through the Bank Holiday, so why exactly do rail workers need a raise specifically just for doing this? There are no additional financial incentives, except usual bank holiday pay - day in lieu or time & a quarter, time & a half or in some extremely rare cases double. All GP & Operations are cancelled on Monday, how comes you’ve not chastised them? Or is your disdain only towards the Railway sector for whatever reason. Not all hospitals are cancelling operations, the hospital I work in still has some going ahead. Notably none of the other sectors are striking causing misery to the working class. Your point about railway workers doing much to keep the country moving when they're bringing nothing but misery to the average person is a perfect example of throwing the cat up the tree then trying to claim you rescued it.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Sept 14, 2022 12:30:19 GMT
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Post by richard on Sept 14, 2022 13:35:41 GMT
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The Queen
Sept 14, 2022 13:46:30 GMT
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Post by northlondon83 on Sept 14, 2022 13:46:30 GMT
I got an email from Tesco saying they'll be closed on Monday morning and only their Tesco Extra stores will be open but from 5pm onwards
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Post by WH241 on Sept 14, 2022 13:55:49 GMT
I got an email from Tesco saying they'll be closed on Monday morning and only their Tesco Extra stores will be open but from 5pm onwards Tesco stores are closed all day not just the morning. ASDA and CO-OP are opening at 5pm along with Tesco Express stores and Sainsburys Local stores.
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The Queen
Sept 14, 2022 14:03:27 GMT
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Post by WH241 on Sept 14, 2022 14:03:27 GMT
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Post by richard on Sept 14, 2022 16:01:33 GMT
The Tube will run for an extra hour on Monday last trains will be 0100-01:30
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Post by greenboy on Sept 15, 2022 6:13:16 GMT
My daughter and son in law took the children to file past the coffin last night, just under 8 hours start to finish. They said it was a very moving experience and they made friends with some lovely people in the queue,one American lady describing it all as "so British".
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Post by ThinLizzy on Sept 15, 2022 13:32:10 GMT
There are no additional financial incentives, except usual bank holiday pay - day in lieu or time & a quarter, time & a half or in some extremely rare cases double. All GP & Operations are cancelled on Monday, how comes you’ve not chastised them? Or is your disdain only towards the Railway sector for whatever reason. Not all hospitals are cancelling operations, the hospital I work in still has some going ahead. Notably none of the other sectors are striking causing misery to the working class. Your point about railway workers doing much to keep the country moving when they're bringing nothing but misery to the average person is a perfect example of throwing the cat up the tree then trying to claim you rescued it. On the other hand, many rail workers are going the "extra mile" to keep things moving and helping out, for example, LNER keeping their lounge open at Edinburgh Waverley overnight, Chiltern running extra trains. Likewise, not all rail workers are on strike, so I'm not sure why you chose to chastise all rail workers. These are the same people who you say are "causing misery to the working class."
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Sept 15, 2022 13:38:07 GMT
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Sept 15, 2022 13:38:07 GMT
Not all hospitals are cancelling operations, the hospital I work in still has some going ahead. Notably none of the other sectors are striking causing misery to the working class. Your point about railway workers doing much to keep the country moving when they're bringing nothing but misery to the average person is a perfect example of throwing the cat up the tree then trying to claim you rescued it. On the other hand, many rail workers are going the "extra mile" to keep things moving and helping out, for example, LNER keeping their lounge open at Edinburgh Waverley overnight, Chiltern running extra trains. Likewise, not all rail workers are on strike, so I'm not sure why you chose to chastise all rail workers. These are the same people who you say are "causing misery to the working class." They can go the extra mile, that's fine. A lot of industries are. Just don't then blackmail everyone using it by saying "we went the extra mile and now we are striking"
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The Queen
Sept 15, 2022 13:43:36 GMT
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Post by southlondon413 on Sept 15, 2022 13:43:36 GMT
On the other hand, many rail workers are going the "extra mile" to keep things moving and helping out, for example, LNER keeping their lounge open at Edinburgh Waverley overnight, Chiltern running extra trains. Likewise, not all rail workers are on strike, so I'm not sure why you chose to chastise all rail workers. These are the same people who you say are "causing misery to the working class." They can go the extra mile, that's fine. A lot of industries are. Just don't then blackmail everyone using it by saying "we went the extra mile and now we are striking" This is fantastic example of where the rail workers are prepared to do more, worker harder and in effect modernise to being adaptable which is exactly what the strikes are about. They should be using this as leverage because it perfectly fits the DfTs remit for long term change.
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Sept 15, 2022 17:36:34 GMT
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Sept 15, 2022 17:36:34 GMT
They can go the extra mile, that's fine. A lot of industries are. Just don't then blackmail everyone using it by saying "we went the extra mile and now we are striking" This is fantastic example of where the rail workers are prepared to do more, worker harder and in effect modernise to being adaptable which is exactly what the strikes are about. They should be using this as leverage because it perfectly fits the DfTs remit for long term change. They are not modernising to be adaptable judging by the strikes on working night shifts.
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