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Post by paulsw2 on Oct 3, 2022 20:42:43 GMT
With a lot of the “fantasy” suggested changes and use xxx line or Overground services this would work well in theory but what happens when a line is suspended because of an incident as you cannot factor in delays if a relieving driver is stuck on a train.As the driver is unable to be directly traced and if they do not (or wish not) to use a personal mobile phone. As I believe you just can’t leave a bus on the highway unattended with passengers on.
Discuss.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Oct 3, 2022 22:01:25 GMT
With a lot of the “fantasy” suggested changes and use xxx line or Overground services this would work well in theory but what happens when a line is suspended because of an incident as you cannot factor in delays if a relieving driver is stuck on a train.As the driver is unable to be directly traced and if they do not (or wish not) to use a personal mobile phone. As I believe you just can’t leave a bus on the highway unattended with passengers on. Discuss. Same method as if the driver was stuck in traffic in a ferry vehicle, or travelling by bus. Previous driver would leave bus at relief point (or other local arrangement), simples |
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Post by WH241 on Oct 3, 2022 22:06:16 GMT
With a lot of the “fantasy” suggested changes and use xxx line or Overground services this would work well in theory but what happens when a line is suspended because of an incident as you cannot factor in delays if a relieving driver is stuck on a train.As the driver is unable to be directly traced and if they do not (or wish not) to use a personal mobile phone. As I believe you just can’t leave a bus on the highway unattended with passengers on. Discuss. Same method as if the driver was stuck in traffic in a ferry vehicle, or travelling by bus. Previous driver would leave bus at relief point (or other local arrangement), simples Go Ahead are experts at dumping buses at bus stops in east London which makes it very difficult for other buses to serve the stop. |
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Post by M1104 on Oct 4, 2022 9:32:53 GMT
With a lot of the “fantasy” suggested changes and use xxx line or Overground services this would work well in theory but what happens when a line is suspended because of an incident as you cannot factor in delays if a relieving driver is stuck on a train.As the driver is unable to be directly traced and if they do not (or wish not) to use a personal mobile phone. As I believe you just can’t leave a bus on the highway unattended with passengers on. Discuss. If a line is suspended Centercom (or whatever it's now called) would do a London wide broadcast where controllers should then be aware of for them to curtail most relevant buses in advance. Regarding staff travel time via the lines, when i used to do the 37 out of SW changeovers were done at Clapham Common, two stops on the Northern Line. IIRC however travelling time then was based on drivers using local buses, perhaps because of proximity from the depot. I don't remember how much time Merton gave us to get to Tooting Broadway but i didn't always use that one stop journey on the tube to get there for the changeovers. |
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Post by DT 11 on Oct 4, 2022 9:43:34 GMT
Same method as if the driver was stuck in traffic in a ferry vehicle, or travelling by bus. Previous driver would leave bus at relief point (or other local arrangement), simples Go Ahead are experts at dumping buses at bus stops in east London which makes it very difficult for other buses to serve the stop. To be honest any operator could do this. I get what you mean though. However if a changeover point is at a bus station or terminus the bus is usually left in that particular location. Camberwell Green of lately has been a location where I have noticed 185s left with hazard lights on with no driver. In addition there can be circumstances where the relief driver takes an extended break because it was cut short due to traffic. There has been an occasion where I lost all of my break due to major traffic, second bus was taken off the road until I was ready to go back out. I came off the first bus the time I should have been going back out to do the second half! |
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Post by ThinLizzy on Oct 4, 2022 14:46:23 GMT
Same method as if the driver was stuck in traffic in a ferry vehicle, or travelling by bus. Previous driver would leave bus at relief point (or other local arrangement), simples Go Ahead are experts at dumping buses at bus stops in east London which makes it very difficult for other buses to serve the stop. absolutely, the stops on London Road in Barking are often littered with 5s parked up with no drivers, even though the stand is literally 100 metres down the road. *Edit* That's no including those GAL vehicles also waiting at stops in Barking with hazards on to "help regulate the service" |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Oct 4, 2022 19:52:30 GMT
Go Ahead are experts at dumping buses at bus stops in east London which makes it very difficult for other buses to serve the stop. absolutely, the stops on London Road in Barking are often littered with 5s parked up with no drivers, even though the stand is literally 100 metres down the road. *Edit* That's no including those GAL vehicles also waiting at stops in Barking with hazards on to "help regulate the service" I'm not sure what's going on at GAL, but there's also a case at Penton Rise where there's lines of 214s dumped as well. You often have a few 366s dumped in the London Road stand as well so the issue seems to be affecting Stagecoach as well. |
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Post by ThinLizzy on Oct 4, 2022 21:23:59 GMT
absolutely, the stops on London Road in Barking are often littered with 5s parked up with no drivers, even though the stand is literally 100 metres down the road. *Edit* That's no including those GAL vehicles also waiting at stops in Barking with hazards on to "help regulate the service" I'm not sure what's going on at GAL, but there's also a case at Penton Rise where there's lines of 214s dumped as well. You often have a few 366s dumped in the London Road stand as well so the issue seems to be affecting Stagecoach as well. Stagecoach would generally get the drivers to put the vehicle on the stand at London Road rather than dump the buses at the stops on London Road. Hopefully the handovers for the 366 won't be at London Road when it goes over to GAL next year |
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