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Post by COBO on Nov 20, 2022 6:44:05 GMT
Do you think that the night tube will get expanded to more lines and branches or even possibly the whole network?
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Post by Busboy105 on Nov 20, 2022 7:20:02 GMT
Do you think that the night tube will get expanded to more lines and branches or even possibly the whole network? Is it even back on? |
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Post by COBO on Nov 20, 2022 7:50:40 GMT
Do you think that the night tube will get expanded to more lines and branches or even possibly the whole network? Is it even back on? Yes there back on. All of night tubes are back in service. |
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Post by VMH2537 on Nov 20, 2022 9:00:21 GMT
Do you think that the night tube will get expanded to more lines and branches or even possibly the whole network? I think the sub-surface lines are next once the modernisation works complete |
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Post by wirewiper on Nov 20, 2022 9:06:34 GMT
Do you think that the night tube will get expanded to more lines and branches or even possibly the whole network? I think most of the sub-surface network would eventually have night tube, although I expect the Metropolitan would only run to Uxbridge and Rickmansworth and not to Amersham, Chesham and Watford. |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Nov 20, 2022 9:31:35 GMT
I think the sub-surface lines are next once the modernisation works complete Nothing mentioned for 21 May 2023 timetable changes, which is after H&C CBTC is completed. District is unlikely to be “completed” always having a small section at the west end unconverted. |
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Post by southlondonbus on Nov 20, 2022 22:21:59 GMT
I doubt anything on the Bakerloo line till new trains.
With the Piccadilly line to Ealing Common and Central to Broadway I'd expect the District to only go Upminster to Wimbledon and Richmond with no service to E Broadway and the Hammersmith & City not to have a night service if the Circle does.
If the Bank branch gets one then I'd expect Battersea to aswell with a split of a 15 mins service to Morden on either branch and then every 15 mins to Battersea.
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Post by buspete on Nov 21, 2022 2:45:05 GMT
The sub service lines didn’t get night tube because of the complexity of the resignalling and the engineers needed all the engineering hours they could get. I do remember seeing a plan for night tube on sub service which only had the Met line going as far as Harrow.
I wonder if the Elizabeth line will get it?
The Bakerloo line will never have night tube as there are real issues how the line was built and the amount of curves, that line is very p/way intensive and needs regular inspections.
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Post by enviroPB on Nov 21, 2022 10:56:09 GMT
I doubt anything on the Bakerloo line till new trains. With the Piccadilly line to Ealing Common and Central to Broadway I'd expect the District to only go Upminster to Wimbledon and Richmond with no service to E Broadway and the Hammersmith & City not to have a night service if the Circle does. If the Bank branch gets one then I'd expect Battersea to aswell with a split of a 15 mins service to Morden on either branch and then every 15 mins to Battersea. The Ealing section of the Piccadilly line does not have a night service, all trains go to Heathrow. |
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Post by wirewiper on Nov 21, 2022 12:22:13 GMT
I doubt anything on the Bakerloo line till new trains. With the Piccadilly line to Ealing Common and Central to Broadway I'd expect the District to only go Upminster to Wimbledon and Richmond with no service to E Broadway and the Hammersmith & City not to have a night service if the Circle does. If the Bank branch gets one then I'd expect Battersea to aswell with a split of a 15 mins service to Morden on either branch and then every 15 mins to Battersea. The Ealing section of the Piccadilly line does not have a night service, all trains go to Heathrow. If anything the Ealing Broadway section is the most likely of the three to have Night Tube as there won't be any issues with running over Network Rail tracks. I guess there could be a fifteen-minute Ealing Broadway-Upminster service and a fifteen-minute Hammersmith-Edgware Road via Aldgate. |
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Post by buspete on Nov 21, 2022 13:50:05 GMT
It was a long time since I saw the SSL night tube plans, it was before Covid but think the plan was something like:
Harrow - Aldgate
Hammersmith H&C - Tower Hill
Ealing - Barking
Putney/Parsons Green - Barking
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Post by buspete on Nov 21, 2022 13:52:05 GMT
I wonder if night tube will come to the Elizabeth Line? What bus route will go all night that serve Elizabeth Line stations?
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Post by WH241 on Nov 21, 2022 17:48:12 GMT
Does it even need to expand? i imagine it costs a small fortune to run probably doesn't cover its costs. It's not like it really benefits night workers as it only runs Friday and Saturdays.
I am sure others will disagree but this is just my personal opinion.
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Post by wirewiper on Nov 21, 2022 18:17:03 GMT
Does it even need to expand? i imagine it costs a small fortune to run probably doesn't cover its costs. It's not like it really benefits night workers as it only runs Friday and Saturdays.
I am sure others will disagree but this is just my personal opinion.
I disagree, the night time economy is important to London. Friday and Saturday are the most crucial nights and I think services on these nights should be extended to the Sub-surface lines, the Elizabeth Line and certain National Rail routes especially those from Charing Cross and Victoria. In terms of covering its costs, these are actually fairly marginal as the assets - trains, stations and railway lines - already exist, the extra costs are staffing and some energy consumption, with a small allowance for extra wear and tear. It is possible that the extra income from fares would exceed this. The extra fares would either come from modal shift (people transferring from private transport, taxis/minicabs and buses), or generated demand (people who are making the journey because the service is now available) Night workers are likely to be working through the night so would use existing late evening and early morning services. |
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Post by buspete on Nov 21, 2022 18:18:49 GMT
Being a brand new line that doesn’t have any engineering complexities like legacy lines do, I wonder if it would be possible to run the Liz Line Sunday to Thursday night or Monday to Thursday night?
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