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Post by Paul on Jul 24, 2023 21:14:34 GMT
As far as I’m aware the police weren’t called - this was what is colloquially known as a ‘hit squad.’ TfL revenue officers take the lead but police officers and PCSOs are present basically to maintain order. The Revenue officers request to see ‘tickets or passes’ from people getting off buses and if this request is refused or no ticket is produced then the police get involved as happened in this case. It appears that this woman had paid her fare but for reasons unknown decided she would get herself into a confrontation with police It was suggested on LBC this morning (not necessarily correct) that the police officers present called for back which apparently lead to 14 officers being there, anyway hopefully it'll all come out in the wash. If a police officer calls for backup then any and all available officers nearby will react to that call |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jul 24, 2023 21:55:08 GMT
How about what happend to need the police to be called in the first place. Why could TfL revenue not deal with it and felt the need to call in the police. Have you seen the video? As far as I’m aware the police weren’t called - this was what is colloquially known as a ‘hit squad.’ TfL revenue officers take the lead but police officers and PCSOs are present basically to maintain order. The Revenue officers request to see ‘tickets or passes’ from people getting off buses and if this request is refused or no ticket is produced then the police get involved as happened in this case. It appears that this woman had paid her fare but for reasons unknown decided she would get herself into a confrontation with police They do hit squad operations around London, where there would be probably 10 revenue inspectors and the same amount of officers. They target known hotspots for fare evasion etc. It can be done any hours of the day. They would stop the bus and request the driver not to move the bus and they would check everyone on the bus at the stop. The reason for the multiple officers is they may do 2 or 3 buses at once. |
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Post by vjaska on Jul 25, 2023 0:53:26 GMT
As far as I’m aware the police weren’t called - this was what is colloquially known as a ‘hit squad.’ TfL revenue officers take the lead but police officers and PCSOs are present basically to maintain order. The Revenue officers request to see ‘tickets or passes’ from people getting off buses and if this request is refused or no ticket is produced then the police get involved as happened in this case. It appears that this woman had paid her fare but for reasons unknown decided she would get herself into a confrontation with police They do hit squad operations around London, where there would be probably 10 revenue inspectors and the same amount of officers. They target known hotspots for fare evasion etc. It can be done any hours of the day. They would stop the bus and request the driver not to move the bus and they would check everyone on the bus at the stop. The reason for the multiple officers is they may do 2 or 3 buses at once. Indeed and this particular spot in Croydon is very well known and has been frequented by these hit squads for years - when I was going college between 2005-2008, the very same bus stop was constantly targeted by the hit squads almost daily and many fare evaders were caught here so interesting but sad to see this stop is still a hotspot all these years on. |
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Post by greenboy on Jul 25, 2023 7:27:46 GMT
As far as I’m aware the police weren’t called - this was what is colloquially known as a ‘hit squad.’ TfL revenue officers take the lead but police officers and PCSOs are present basically to maintain order. The Revenue officers request to see ‘tickets or passes’ from people getting off buses and if this request is refused or no ticket is produced then the police get involved as happened in this case. It appears that this woman had paid her fare but for reasons unknown decided she would get herself into a confrontation with police They do hit squad operations around London, where there would be probably 10 revenue inspectors and the same amount of officers. They target known hotspots for fare evasion etc. It can be done any hours of the day. They would stop the bus and request the driver not to move the bus and they would check everyone on the bus at the stop. The reason for the multiple officers is they may do 2 or 3 buses at once. They were particularly common on open boarding bendybuses, what often antagonises people is the delay whilst tickets and oysters are checked, on the rail network ticket checks are usually done on the move. If there is a considerable police presence questions are likely be asked about whether they have better things to do and inevitably there will be certain people who are just wanting to start an argument. The Croydon incident was discussed again on LBC this morning. |
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Post by Paul on Jul 25, 2023 8:59:51 GMT
They were particularly common on open boarding bendybuses……. So common in fact that my dad used to amuse himself by announcing that tickets would be checked ‘at the next stop’ whereupon there was a chorus of beeps as dozens of people tapped their cards on their nearest reader! |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jul 25, 2023 9:44:29 GMT
They do hit squad operations around London, where there would be probably 10 revenue inspectors and the same amount of officers. They target known hotspots for fare evasion etc. It can be done any hours of the day. They would stop the bus and request the driver not to move the bus and they would check everyone on the bus at the stop. The reason for the multiple officers is they may do 2 or 3 buses at once. They were particularly common on open boarding bendybuses, what often antagonises people is the delay whilst tickets and oysters are checked, on the rail network ticket checks are usually done on the move. If there is a considerable police presence questions are likely be asked about whether they have better things to do and inevitably there will be certain people who are just wanting to start an argument. The Croydon incident was discussed again on LBC this morning. It would be near on impossible to do a whole check on a train, at a station. That would require over 100 staff to do that. You do have the usual revenue checks that are done on the move, but those ones normally may have a van or cars parked up there from the police so if they arrest someone, it is easier to cart them away. |
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Post by greenboy on Jul 25, 2023 11:25:36 GMT
They were particularly common on open boarding bendybuses, what often antagonises people is the delay whilst tickets and oysters are checked, on the rail network ticket checks are usually done on the move. If there is a considerable police presence questions are likely be asked about whether they have better things to do and inevitably there will be certain people who are just wanting to start an argument. The Croydon incident was discussed again on LBC this morning. It would be near on impossible to do a whole check on a train, at a station. That would require over 100 staff to do that. You do have the usual revenue checks that are done on the move, but those ones normally may have a van or cars parked up there from the police so if they arrest someone, it is easier to cart them away. It would reduce animosity from passengers if these checks were done on the move with the police van in close proximity. |
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Post by joefrombow on Jul 25, 2023 12:08:03 GMT
The police body cam footage is going to be released apparently so should get to the bottom of who is right or wrong .
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Post by Buses678 on Jul 27, 2023 19:52:15 GMT
i wouldnt be suprised if BLM protest evoke soon
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Post by Buses678 on Jul 27, 2023 19:57:58 GMT
 haha, that wouldve been funny
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jul 27, 2023 21:10:07 GMT
i wouldnt be suprised if BLM protest evoke soon Why would they. The woman clearly was in the wrong and made drama of something which is noted on tickets and buses that you must present your ticket when required upon inspection. |
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Post by greenboy on Aug 4, 2023 11:57:48 GMT
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haha, that wouldve been funny