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Post by snowman on Oct 20, 2019 5:50:56 GMT
7 buses for the 278 9 buses for the 482 15 buses for the 270 17 buses for the 285 EDIT: it's been said that the first 7 are for the 278, them likely to be 2006‐12 A TVR of 15 is quite odd for a route that has a PVR of 13 - generally a 13 PVR route only has 1 spare so wonder why they ordered an extra one for the 270? 270 is Mitcham to Putney Bridge Putney Bridge area traffic can be very bad since Hammersmith Bridge closed
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Post by rif153 on Oct 20, 2019 7:13:34 GMT
7 buses for the 278 9 buses for the 482 15 buses for the 270 17 buses for the 285 EDIT: it's been said that the first 7 are for the 278, them likely to be 2006‐12 Putting them in date order would have helped 278 starts 7 Dec (at WS) part fleet alongside older buses 482 starts 21 Mar (at GW) 270 starts 30 May (at QB) 285 starts 27 June (at TF) I’m not 100% that Ihave got the correct garages, but first five 2001-2005 are at GW for part of 207, but not sure if these have the newly gained 482 on their blinds. It does actually make some of the Abellio West London garages a rather mixed fleet of double decks, with mix of classic diesel E400s, E400 hybrids, E400H MMCs, and now E400 MMC smart M1104 said a source confirmed the 482 would run from WS, hence why the H28 hasn't moved back in. However, that plan may have changed now if the 427 cutback is postponed, then the 278 and 482 can't both go to WS so I'd expect the 278 to fill the vacant space at WS.
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Post by M1104 on Oct 20, 2019 9:56:47 GMT
7 buses for the 278 9 buses for the 482 15 buses for the 270 17 buses for the 285 EDIT: it's been said that the first 7 are for the 278, them likely to be 2006‐12 A TVR of 15 is quite odd for a route that has a PVR of 13 - generally a 13 PVR route only has 1 spare so wonder why they ordered an extra one for the 270? To be honest I'm not up to date with the ratio of buses ordered against spares. However when I used to do the 49 in the 90s at Battersea (BB) we were allocated six¹ Metrobuses, one of them being a spare. With the 295 it was twenty DRL class Darts, three being spares. I was therefore under the assumption that for every five or six buses there is one spare added, though that could depend on the status of existing spares for the intending depot. . ¹ - the rest then were from SW
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Post by busoccultation on Oct 20, 2019 10:23:17 GMT
7 buses for the 278 9 buses for the 482 15 buses for the 270 17 buses for the 285 EDIT: it's been said that the first 7 are for the 278, them likely to be 2006‐12 A TVR of 15 is quite odd for a route that has a PVR of 13 - generally a 13 PVR route only has 1 spare so wonder why they ordered an extra one for the 270? Routes that have a PVR of 13 are quite common to have 2 spares and they are equally common as routes that have only one spares, one example is that the 249 until the recent frequency increase had a PVR of 13 and that had 15 HV's (HV280-294) ordered for the route in 2017 and despite being able to share its buses with the 2 (and the 468 a year later).
I think it all comes to down with how the operators/garages decides whether they want to play it safe which means getting extra spares like routes with PVR of 13 getting two spares or using the efficiency of the fleet as well as taking the risk when something goes wrong and getting only 1 spare for routes with PVR of 13.
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Post by vjaska on Oct 20, 2019 10:28:37 GMT
A TVR of 15 is quite odd for a route that has a PVR of 13 - generally a 13 PVR route only has 1 spare so wonder why they ordered an extra one for the 270? Routes that have a PVR of 13 are quite common to have 2 spares and they are equally common as routes that have only one spares, one example is that the 249 until the recent frequency increase had a PVR of 13 and that had 15 HV's (HV280-294) ordered for the route in 2017 and despite being able to share its buses with the 2 (and the 468 a year later). I think it all comes to down with how the operators/garages decides whether they want to play it safe which means getting extra spares like routes with PVR of 13 getting two spares or using the efficiency of the fleet as well as taking the risk when something goes wrong and getting only 1 spare for routes with PVR of 13.
Whilst your correct about the 249 and the other bits, routes with a PVR of 13 still usually receive one spare far more than they receive two spares.
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Post by YY13VKP on Oct 20, 2019 10:55:20 GMT
A rather interesting thing to note today is that none of the 8831-8842 are in service today. The 490’s allocation today is mainly the 12 reg plus some of the 290’s E200’s. Wonder why?
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Post by YY13VKP on Oct 21, 2019 9:23:25 GMT
8524 is back in service at BC, was on route 201 yesterday. Meanwhile 8522 has transferred to TF and is currently on route H28. Not sure why TF need more of the older ex 407 E200’s unless a route there has had a PVR increase that I’ve missed?
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Post by rj131 on Oct 21, 2019 15:45:40 GMT
8524 is back in service at BC, was on route 201 yesterday. Meanwhile 8522 has transferred to TF and is currently on route H28. Not sure why TF need more of the older ex 407 E200’s unless a route there has had a PVR increase that I’ve missed? I believe the 490 had a PVR increase to 16 upon renewal? But that’s not something that’s yet shown up on LBR.
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Post by paulo on Oct 21, 2019 17:07:19 GMT
8524 is back in service at BC, was on route 201 yesterday. Meanwhile 8522 has transferred to TF and is currently on route H28. Not sure why TF need more of the older ex 407 E200’s unless a route there has had a PVR increase that I’ve missed? I believe the 490 had a PVR increase to 16 upon renewal? But that’s not something that’s yet shown up on LBR. It’s a spare for when the 267 moves over..... only joking vjaska.....
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Post by vjaska on Oct 21, 2019 17:56:54 GMT
8524 is back in service at BC, was on route 201 yesterday. Meanwhile 8522 has transferred to TF and is currently on route H28. Not sure why TF need more of the older ex 407 E200’s unless a route there has had a PVR increase that I’ve missed? I believe the 490 had a PVR increase to 16 upon renewal? But that’s not something that’s yet shown up on LBR. I thought it was retained with the existing PVR of 15? Even if it’s 16, there are spare ex 407 examples already at TF IIRC.
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Post by galwhv69 on Oct 21, 2019 18:02:37 GMT
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Post by paulo on Oct 21, 2019 18:18:09 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2019 18:43:16 GMT
It really does, I really like it.
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Post by rif153 on Oct 21, 2019 19:27:47 GMT
I'm excited for these to enter service, I imagine they'll encourage me to use the C10 more.
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Post by george on Oct 21, 2019 19:35:17 GMT
I'm excited for these to enter service, I imagine they'll encourage me to use the C10 more. Also nice to see something different than the Alexander Dennis BYD partnership which I think everyone including me was expecting Abellio to order when they won the C10 and P5
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