Off-peak Friday fares trial on ends

[capitalomnibus]

Off-peak Friday fares trial on London transport ends
A scheme trialling off-peak fares all day on Fridays on the Transport for London (TfL) network is ending.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9ee1r0kvg0o

This clearly was nothing more than an election gimmick from the mayor

[matthieu1221]

I doubt it’s coming back but I guess they’ve got useful data about the elasticity of demand now.

[WH241]

Jun 3, 2024 17:22:04 GMT matthieu1221 said:

I doubt it’s coming back but I guess they’ve got useful data about the elasticity of demand now.

Now Khan is safe for 4 years we probably won’t see any more publicity stunts like this .

[joefrombow]

Jun 3, 2024 17:34:21 GMT WH241 said:

Jun 3, 2024 17:22:04 GMT matthieu1221 said:

I doubt it’s coming back but I guess they’ve got useful data about the elasticity of demand now.

Now Khan is safe for 4 years we probably won’t see any more publicity stunts like this .

Literally see a ad for it in the CityAM on Thursday with ends 30th may in small print 😂 be very surprised if it came back electioneering at its finest

[southlondonbus]

Article in the Evening Standard says had little impact with only an average 3% increase on tube journeys.

[southlondon413]

Jun 26, 2024 5:45:02 GMT southlondonbus said:

Article in the Evening Standard says had little impact with only an average 3% increase on tube journeys.

As predicted when first announced, basically no impact on travel patterns. No one would choose to go to an office on a Friday and no one is travelling into central London on a Friday for a drink or dinner unless they have to.

[WH241]

Jun 26, 2024 5:45:02 GMT southlondonbus said:

Article in the Evening Standard says had little impact with only an average 3% increase on tube journeys.

Was an election gimmick that looked good until you actually realised you only saved a few pence per on some journeys.

[southlondonbus]

Jun 26, 2024 8:52:12 GMT WH241 said:

Jun 26, 2024 5:45:02 GMT southlondonbus said:

Article in the Evening Standard says had little impact with only an average 3% increase on tube journeys.

Was an election gimmick that looked good until you actually realised you only saved a few pence per on some journeys.

Absolutely and that few pence ended up wasting £24m. Whilst I get you have to try new things I'm afraid I always felt this was doomed to fail partly as I know many who have a day or 2 at home and as far as they are concerned they have their working life worked out now.

[joefrombow]

Was most definitely a gimmick to get votes , who really cares about a 60p saving ? might help out a bit but hardly life changing something like this though would be good ,

In Scotland at the moment they have off peak fares all day everyday this would be game changing all day everyday all these potential governments talk a good talk but would be good to see something like this along with the £2 Bus Fare , I haven't looked at Labours plans for transport bar renationalisation but that doesnt really detail much and TBF is the same policy the Tories had with GBR but this will probably end up as another gimmick in Scotland once election is done and dusted


www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgrwrp8yd6xo

[vjaska]

Jun 26, 2024 9:32:32 GMT joefrombow said:

Was most definitely a gimmick to get votes , who really cares about a 60p saving ? might help out a bit but hardly life changing something like this though would be good ,

In Scotland at the moment they have off peak fares all day everyday this would be game changing all day everyday all these potential governments talk a good talk but would be good to see something like this along with the £2 Bus Fare , I haven't looked at Labours plans for transport bar renationalisation but that doesnt really detail much and TBF is the same policy the Tories had with GBR but this will probably end up as another gimmick in Scotland once election is done and dusted


www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgrwrp8yd6xo

I don’t think it was an election gimmick at all - it was always mentioned that it would be temporary to begin with. They tried it and it didn’t work so they binned it

[matthieu1221]

Jun 26, 2024 11:46:11 GMT vjaska said:

Jun 26, 2024 9:32:32 GMT joefrombow said:

Was most definitely a gimmick to get votes , who really cares about a 60p saving ? might help out a bit but hardly life changing something like this though would be good ,

In Scotland at the moment they have off peak fares all day everyday this would be game changing all day everyday all these potential governments talk a good talk but would be good to see something like this along with the £2 Bus Fare , I haven't looked at Labours plans for transport bar renationalisation but that doesnt really detail much and TBF is the same policy the Tories had with GBR but this will probably end up as another gimmick in Scotland once election is done and dusted


www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgrwrp8yd6xo

I don’t think it was an election gimmick at all - it was always mentioned that it would be temporary to begin with. They tried it and it didn’t work so they binned it

And it gives them data to work with. With this conclusion, I don't think off-peak fares will be considered all day every day of the week. People who can't choose not come in still will, and people who can choose when and how they work will come in when it suits them, lower fares won't help.

[VMH2537]

Sadiq Khan's £24million off-peak Friday fares trial had little impact, data suggests

www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/sadiq-khan-off-peak-friday-fares-tube-underground-tfl-london-commuters-mayor-b1166772.html

[southlondon413]

Jun 26, 2024 9:32:32 GMT joefrombow said:

Was most definitely a gimmick to get votes , who really cares about a 60p saving ? might help out a bit but hardly life changing something like this though would be good ,

In Scotland at the moment they have off peak fares all day everyday this would be game changing all day everyday all these potential governments talk a good talk but would be good to see something like this along with the £2 Bus Fare , I haven't looked at Labours plans for transport bar renationalisation but that doesnt really detail much and TBF is the same policy the Tories had with GBR but this will probably end up as another gimmick in Scotland once election is done and dusted


www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgrwrp8yd6xo

I did say this from the minute this policy was first announced. Office workers, who this was mostly aimed at, aren’t going to suddenly change their travel patterns to save such a small amount of money. I spent 10 times that on a coffee yesterday, it’s not worth hauling myself out of bed for such a tiny minuscule amount. Everyone who’s ever worked in an office will tell you that Fridays are traditionally the quietest day of the week. Put it on a Monday for example and there may be a huge significant impact but Fridays are the one day office workers don’t want.

[matthieu1221]

Jun 27, 2024 9:19:27 GMT southlondon413 said:

Jun 26, 2024 9:32:32 GMT joefrombow said:

Was most definitely a gimmick to get votes , who really cares about a 60p saving ? might help out a bit but hardly life changing something like this though would be good ,

In Scotland at the moment they have off peak fares all day everyday this would be game changing all day everyday all these potential governments talk a good talk but would be good to see something like this along with the £2 Bus Fare , I haven't looked at Labours plans for transport bar renationalisation but that doesnt really detail much and TBF is the same policy the Tories had with GBR but this will probably end up as another gimmick in Scotland once election is done and dusted


www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgrwrp8yd6xo

I did say this from the minute this policy was first announced. Office workers, who this was mostly aimed at, aren’t going to suddenly change their travel patterns to save such a small amount of money. I spent 10 times that on a coffee yesterday, it’s not worth hauling myself out of bed for such a tiny minuscule amount. Everyone who’s ever worked in an office will tell you that Fridays are traditionally the quietest day of the week. Put it on a Monday for example and there may be a huge significant impact but Fridays are the one day office workers don’t want.

I think the point of a Friday was for wider effects on hospitality, etc... but I doubt even Mondays would've changed much.

[southlondon413]

Jun 27, 2024 12:11:07 GMT matthieu1221 said:

Jun 27, 2024 9:19:27 GMT southlondon413 said:

I did say this from the minute this policy was first announced. Office workers, who this was mostly aimed at, aren’t going to suddenly change their travel patterns to save such a small amount of money. I spent 10 times that on a coffee yesterday, it’s not worth hauling myself out of bed for such a tiny minuscule amount. Everyone who’s ever worked in an office will tell you that Fridays are traditionally the quietest day of the week. Put it on a Monday for example and there may be a huge significant impact but Fridays are the one day office workers don’t want.

I think the point of a Friday was for wider effects on hospitality, etc... but I doubt even Mondays would've changed much.

Which also wouldn’t work because people aren’t travelling into town to go for a drink or go for dinner when there are loads of new options locally. Sure, if they are working but if they aren’t they won’t bother.