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Post by galwhv69 on Jul 17, 2021 16:52:33 GMT
When I mean by if anyone can go on the extras. I mean can any passengers go on the extras or are they only meant for just school kids? Most drivers will let you on but some won't as with all school extra services. But "school services" & "non-school services" haven't existed for a while now. Drivers are not meant to display those boards. (Not sure about 6** school routes though)
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Post by BE37054 (quoll662) on Jul 18, 2021 16:14:04 GMT
Are the E3's Enviro 400H's more reliable than the E1's?
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Post by vjaska on Jul 18, 2021 17:08:00 GMT
Are the E3's Enviro 400H's more reliable than the E1's? No, both batches are seemingly as bad reliability wise.
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Post by YX10FFN on Jul 18, 2021 19:39:26 GMT
This does seem rather random but I wasn't sure what thread to put it in.
Does anyone have any memories of the 485/R61 using High Park Road in Kew? Capacitywise, if there were any physical stops, local popularity etc. It's my road and I was very intrigued to find a bus did run down it.
Today the road can get pretty congested as it's an important rat run to avoid A205 traffic and, coupled with a traffic calming island, I can imagine it would be difficult to run a bus service on it.
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Post by vjaska on Jul 18, 2021 21:01:01 GMT
This does seem rather random but I wasn't sure what thread to put it in. Does anyone have any memories of the 485/R61 using High Park Road in Kew? Capacitywise, if there were any physical stops, local popularity etc. It's my road and I was very intrigued to find a bus did run down it. Today the road can get pretty congested as it's an important rat run to avoid A205 traffic and, coupled with a traffic calming island, I can imagine it would be difficult to run a bus service on it. This is from memory over 20 odd years ago but I did pick up a Richmond bus map as a kid when I visited there in the 90's and I'm sure the R61 was on it (it was replaced by the 485 in 1998) and there was definitely a local stop guide inside for Kew but I can't remember if it included Kew Gardens. Anyway, I'm sure I read somewhere else years later that the section was hail & ride along High Park Road but I'm far from 100% sure on that so not particularly helpful I'm afraid
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Post by redexpress on Jul 18, 2021 22:20:54 GMT
This does seem rather random but I wasn't sure what thread to put it in. Does anyone have any memories of the 485/R61 using High Park Road in Kew? Capacitywise, if there were any physical stops, local popularity etc. It's my road and I was very intrigued to find a bus did run down it. Today the road can get pretty congested as it's an important rat run to avoid A205 traffic and, coupled with a traffic calming island, I can imagine it would be difficult to run a bus service on it. This scanned timetable for the 485 from 1998 might be of interest. It shows that there were hail-and-ride sections elsewhere on the route, but doesn't mention any H&R in the Kew area. That doesn't necessarily prove that there were fixed stops - it might be that the H&R section in Kew was too short to be mentioned on the timetable. I have a vague memory that there might have been a stop near the station, at least in one direction, with buses in the other direction looping round to serve the stop on Station Parade. But I'm afraid I never travelled on the route myself.
When the 485 was diverted away in 2000, the intention was that the new 419 would replace it through Kew. However the Darts used on the 419 proved to be too big for High Park Road (the R61/485 had used small Mercedes midibuses), so the Kew section was left unserved. If the Darts had been cleared for use on High Park Road you'd have had the 419 running past your front door.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2021 13:20:09 GMT
Quick question: Why do buses going from Hounslow bus station area towards Feltham use Hounslow High Street in the westbound direction but routes going elsewhere do not? And why only in the westbound direction?
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Post by snowman on Jul 22, 2021 14:33:15 GMT
Quick question: Why do buses going from Hounslow bus station area towards Feltham use Hounslow High Street in the westbound direction but routes going elsewhere do not? And why only in the westbound direction? This all dates from when the pedestrianisation was done (about 1996-7 ?) Initially didn’t want bus passengers crossing the road from opposite side of Hanworth Road from shops, so kept a single lane Westbound in High Street to Douglas Road, but Eastbound buses were diverted via the road behind the shops (Hanworth Road). From memory buses continued to use Bell Road for a while until a new cut off was constructed across an old car park linking Bath Road to Lampton Road (it was a very sharp corner where the roads originally met). It wasn’t the only bit of new road as Steve Biko Way and the section linking Staines Road to Grove Road (by the Ibis hotel) didn’t use to exist either. Lawrence Road didn’t use to extend to High Street either so the only way to drive to where Treaty Centre now is was to use Cecil Road which came out near bus garage.
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Post by redexpress on Jul 22, 2021 15:22:02 GMT
Quick question: Why do buses going from Hounslow bus station area towards Feltham use Hounslow High Street in the westbound direction but routes going elsewhere do not? And why only in the westbound direction? I'm pretty sure that the bus lane used to be used by all westbound buses. At a guess I'd say there was probably too much congestion so it was decided to reduce the number of routes that use it. No idea why those particular routes were chosen.
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Post by kmkcheng on Jul 22, 2021 15:55:44 GMT
Quick question: Why do buses going from Hounslow bus station area towards Feltham use Hounslow High Street in the westbound direction but routes going elsewhere do not? And why only in the westbound direction? I'm pretty sure that the bus lane used to be used by all westbound buses. At a guess I'd say there was probably too much congestion so it was decided to reduce the number of routes that use it. No idea why those particular routes were chosen. If there was congestion occurring and they had to remove a selected number of routes, it makes sense to keep routes with a common destination together, in this case, the routes to Staines Road and Feltham, whilst moving all other routes to Hanworth Road stops
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Post by nad1152597 on Jul 24, 2021 18:14:44 GMT
Hi,
Just a quick query. Does the trams work similar to the DLR where you touch in on the oyster reader? Are there staff on trams checking tickets? And do tram stops have barriers (except Wimbledon)? Nothing to do with fare evasion, just had an idea for the hopper fare.
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Post by Busboy105 on Jul 24, 2021 18:20:17 GMT
Hi, Just a quick query. Does the trams work similar to the DLR where you touch in on the oyster reader? Are there staff on trams checking tickets? And do tram stops have barriers (except Wimbledon)? Nothing to do with fare evasion, just had an idea for the hopper fare. No tram stops except Wimbledon have barriers. Fare evaders must run riot on the network
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2021 18:33:11 GMT
Hi, Just a quick query. Does the trams work similar to the DLR where you touch in on the oyster reader? Are there staff on trams checking tickets? And do tram stops have barriers (except Wimbledon)? Nothing to do with fare evasion, just had an idea for the hopper fare. No tram stops except Wimbledon have barriers. Fare evaders must run riot on the network Speaking of fare evaders I saw a man get on the back of the E6 bus and didn't touch in - driver didn't notice.
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Post by galwhv69 on Jul 24, 2021 18:36:25 GMT
Hi, Just a quick query. Does the trams work similar to the DLR where you touch in on the oyster reader? Are there staff on trams checking tickets? And do tram stops have barriers (except Wimbledon)? Nothing to do with fare evasion, just had an idea for the hopper fare. No tram stops except Wimbledon have barriers. Fare evaders must run riot on the network Obviously not everyone touches in but the team are usually decent at doing ticket checks during busy periods
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Post by nad1152597 on Jul 24, 2021 18:42:50 GMT
Hi, Just a quick query. Does the trams work similar to the DLR where you touch in on the oyster reader? Are there staff on trams checking tickets? And do tram stops have barriers (except Wimbledon)? Nothing to do with fare evasion, just had an idea for the hopper fare. No tram stops except Wimbledon have barriers. Fare evaders must run riot on the network Thanks for the quick responses by iamalondoner and galwhv69. I was hoping that the Mayor would enhance the hopper fare by extending some routes to allow better travel links across South London between buses and trams. E.g 176 to Beckenham Junction, 3 to Elmer's End or route 47 to Beckenham Junction (probably all fantasy ideas but possible with some Central London changes). However if people are fare evading now, it may just make things worse. Would be good for people to get to zone 1 from other zones for £1.55 and would be a reliable alternative if Thameslink/Overground had any problems.
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