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Post by vjaska on Mar 15, 2020 3:47:25 GMT
If it's the ex Go-Ahead WVL9, it too also got the higher rated engine when refurbished for the 88 unless it's had a new engine since. Sullivan WVL9, ex Arriva VLW. Ahh, makes total sense, cheers
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Post by richard on Mar 15, 2020 15:02:41 GMT
UNO are helping out on the jubilee line replacement just passed one of thier buses in St John's Wood
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Post by redbus on Mar 15, 2020 18:32:21 GMT
The Jubilee line rail replacement service JL2 seems to be real hotch-potch of different operators, never seen anything like it, from Metroline, Stagecoach, Arriva, Oxford Coaches, Brookes, others that don't immediately come to mind and names I never heard of. I suppose with PVR so high, no one had that many spare buses so TfL had to go far and wide.
Interestingly I saw no Abellio buses, and it was Abellio who provide the bulk of the service last time.
Also of note is Metroline putting on some electric buses on the route, first time the BDEs have strayed away from the 43/N43? I wonder how they are performing on the route, and maybe Metroline are interested to see how they perform as well, which is why they allocated them onto the JL2.
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Post by redbus on Mar 15, 2020 18:33:58 GMT
Also I should have added that the JL2 doesn't seem to be on iBus, or am I missing something?
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Post by richard on Mar 15, 2020 19:22:21 GMT
Also I should have added that the JL2 doesn't seem to be on iBus, or am I missing something? JL-2 wasn't tracking wich I thought it would've been and serving more stations including interchanges with other lines. On the other hand JL-1 was tracking both on ibus and countdown strangely.
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Post by foxhat on Mar 15, 2020 21:01:34 GMT
I rode from Wembley Park to Neasden on an Uno City which didn't go above about 15mph. In the other direction there was a large convoy of buses bunched up in service consisting of Arriva, Go-Ahead Commercial, HCT Group, Metroline, Stagecoach and an unknown operator with a former Metroline TE running along Forty Lane! Which operator will you be with on JL2? That sir, remains to be seen! Will send a PM! That was Westbus! Cardinal were also out yesterday with a former Metroline TE too but that was in the Cardinal's superb livery.
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Post by foxhat on Mar 15, 2020 21:03:06 GMT
The Jubilee line rail replacement service JL2 seems to be real hotch-potch of different operators, never seen anything like it, from Metroline, Stagecoach, Arriva, Oxford Coaches, Brookes, others that don't immediately come to mind and names I never heard of. I suppose with PVR so high, no one had that many spare buses so TfL had to go far and wide. Interestingly I saw no Abellio buses, and it was Abellio who provide the bulk of the service last time. Also of note is Metroline putting on some electric buses on the route, first time the BDEs have strayed away from the 43/N43? I wonder how they are performing on the route, and maybe Metroline are interested to see how they perform as well, which is why they allocated them onto the JL2. There were 4x BDEs out yesterday and the same again today. This was their second appearance on rail having debuted on an Overground rail job earlier in February between Gunnersbury & Camden Road - a service which also wasn't on iBus.
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Post by shroudoffrost on Mar 16, 2020 11:51:12 GMT
Sullivan's were running a vintage service on ML-1 last night with Hertfordshire buses WVL7 and WVL8 running along with TfL spec TPL927! There was a shortage of London spec deckers available due to TfL Rail replacement running as well. E41 which I had for my first half was later involved in a small "incident" so had no choice to be swapped with WVL8 which was the designated standby bus. I had WVL7 for my second half which had kickdown and was slightly quicker than WVL9 I had yesterday, although it was stuck in "hoover" mode and made a massive racket if you put your foot down hard.
Good thing I wasn't finishing too late as I imagine a lot of residents around South Kenton would not have been happy. We seem to getting a lot of life out of these ex Arriva Volvo's, for something so old they still drive really nicely. They hold the road like a train even when you reach max speed being 50mph in this case. I enjoyed driving them more than any Euro 5 E400!
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Post by orangejamieboss on May 23, 2020 16:28:36 GMT
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Post by richard on May 23, 2020 20:17:59 GMT
I'm surprised Arriva isn't running the replacement bus EC,WN,AR would have been the garages that would've done the job.
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Post by VWH1414 on May 23, 2020 20:50:20 GMT
I'm surprised Arriva isn't running the replacement bus EC,WN,AR would have been the garages that would've done the job. Why? For rail replacement you don't need garages close to it - as they aren't full time services like regular routes, so buses for that day usually only make that single dead mileage trip on that day and have back up buses also parked up on standby in case of one of the buses failing. If being close to the RR was important, Abellio wouldn't be running Rail Replacement services in East London. In general Arriva don't seem to do too many rail jobs - in general Abellio does a lot of them, with Sullivan Buses also doing quite a few and Metroline also doing a couple.
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Post by richard on May 23, 2020 21:09:15 GMT
I'm surprised Arriva isn't running the replacement bus EC,WN,AR would have been the garages that would've done the job. Why? For rail replacement you don't need garages close to it - as they aren't full time services like regular routes, so buses for that day usually only make that single dead mileage trip on that day and have back up buses also parked up on standby in case of one of the buses failing. If being close to the RR was important, Abellio wouldn't be running Rail Replacement services in East London. In general Arriva don't seem to do too many rail jobs - in general Abellio does a lot of them, with Sullivan Buses also doing quite a few and Metroline also doing a couple. Because they have done the Vic line replacement before so I don't see a problem with them doing it this time around. And they currently do the goblin Gospel Oak to Seven Sisters so I don't really see a problem with that and they sourced buses form TC to do the long term closure in 2016.
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Post by VWH1414 on May 23, 2020 22:06:05 GMT
Why? For rail replacement you don't need garages close to it - as they aren't full time services like regular routes, so buses for that day usually only make that single dead mileage trip on that day and have back up buses also parked up on standby in case of one of the buses failing. If being close to the RR was important, Abellio wouldn't be running Rail Replacement services in East London. In general Arriva don't seem to do too many rail jobs - in general Abellio does a lot of them, with Sullivan Buses also doing quite a few and Metroline also doing a couple. Because they have done the Vic line replacement before so I don't see a problem with them doing it this time around. And they currently do the goblin Gospel Oak to Seven Sisters so I don't really see a problem with that and they sourced buses form TC to do the long term closure in 2016. But why would they do it this time round? They lost the contract to Abellio, so thats why Abellio is now running it and not Arriva.
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Post by 6HP502C on May 24, 2020 0:47:43 GMT
I'm surprised Arriva isn't running the replacement bus EC,WN,AR would have been the garages that would've done the job. TfL's bus service contracts are awarded through the competitive tendering system - the idea is that most cost effective deliverable bid wins. That won't necessarily come from the operator with the garages closest to the route.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2020 9:25:17 GMT
Abellio and Metroline have clearly put a lot of effort into this sort of work. Along with Go Ahead they have their own departments for such work I understand. Other companies have disposed of private hire / rail work other than to accept sub contracting jobs.
Gives their drivers something different to do and I’m sure (hope) an opportunity for some overtime.
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