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Post by foxhat on May 29, 2020 10:13:36 GMT
VW1822 on the 231
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Post by 10121ddo on May 29, 2020 10:54:20 GMT
Interesting selection of photo used in this post by TfL on Twitter - a VWH on the 30!! Looks like VWH2111 (can make out a 15 reg) to me....
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Post by barrypotter on May 29, 2020 12:19:12 GMT
All non 134 decker drivers being familiarised on VWs, so not necessarily sticking to 231.
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Post by foxhat on May 29, 2020 12:35:18 GMT
All non 134 decker drivers being familiarised on VWs, so not necessarily sticking to 231. Euro 6 upgraded so could run on all routes. Glad to hear you're all being trained.
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Post by VWH1414 on May 29, 2020 12:47:58 GMT
All non 134 decker drivers being familiarised on VWs, so not necessarily sticking to 231. Euro 6 upgraded so could run on all routes. Glad to hear you're all being trained. Judging by the fact VW1195 is now reported at PB, I'm assuming it'll be a mix of ex First 10 reg and native 11 regs from PA going to PB? Will the ex First ones also be refurbished too? I'm also curious, is there any plan to also give the 317 VWs? It certainly seems like very interesting times at the moment at Metroline, with some interesting fleet moves occuring
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Post by foxhat on May 29, 2020 13:25:29 GMT
Euro 6 upgraded so could run on all routes. Glad to hear you're all being trained. Judging by the fact VW1195 is now reported at PB, I'm assuming it'll be a mix of ex First 10 reg and native 11 regs from PA going to PB? Will the ex First ones also be refurbished too? I'm also curious, is there any plan to also give the 317 VWs? It certainly seems like very interesting times at the moment at Metroline, with some interesting fleet moves occuring That one is news to me. Is there a source?
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Post by VWH1414 on May 29, 2020 13:31:58 GMT
Judging by the fact VW1195 is now reported at PB, I'm assuming it'll be a mix of ex First 10 reg and native 11 regs from PA going to PB? Will the ex First ones also be refurbished too? I'm also curious, is there any plan to also give the 317 VWs? It certainly seems like very interesting times at the moment at Metroline, with some interesting fleet moves occuring That one is news to me. Is there a source? VW1195 was reported at PB by barrypotter in the transfers thread
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2020 14:07:24 GMT
That one is news to me. Is there a source? VW1195 was reported at PB by barrypotter in the transfers thread That's quite an interesting one I must say!
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Post by foxhat on May 29, 2020 16:34:17 GMT
That one is news to me. Is there a source? VW1195 was reported at PB by barrypotter in the transfers thread That'll be because I didn't look there! Thanks
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on May 30, 2020 6:25:08 GMT
Cool, I actually thought it was more recently and was because of the 393 but obviously there was enough room for the route at HT with the 17 also staying. I guess it gives Metroline to win another route from KC in the future like the 476 for example. Although I don't see Metroline winning the 63 they could easily bid for it from KC. A Metroline route in Peckham would look really odd.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on May 30, 2020 6:27:40 GMT
What a shame that the 45 doesn’t go to Kings Cross anymore because Metroline could have also gotten that route. In historic spirit, route 45 reached Archway in 1978-85 during route 17's sabbatical, and even had a Mon-Fri HT allocation.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on May 30, 2020 6:31:35 GMT
Who says Edgware aren't keen on VWs? Sounds like a case of bus spotter conspiracy unless you are a fitter or driver there and hear that view regularly. Anyway, they've already got plenty with more arriving for the 240 as confirmed. EW and W will have not much choice anyway in the future if there was any sort of preference to TEs and TEHs, as eventually they will have to be withdrawn and currently all Metroline have been ordering are volvos so VWs, VWHs and VMHs are the future allocations for those garages Indeed, and although I prefer classic VWHs to frogfaces, it is still a culture shock knowing some have reached W ready for route 139, never mind their early run-in on route 210.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on May 30, 2020 6:37:53 GMT
Sorry think I misread your post I thought you was saying that last time the second bidder must have been Abellio rather than Arriva. Oh I see - I think Arriva bidded in 2003 & 2010 for sure but not in 2017 if that clears things up. The one I’m unsure on is who the 4th bidder was in 2003 - certainly London Central, Arriva & Connex were the other three but maybe Metroline or a new operator bidded for it? As KX was already open by then the 4th bidder could indeed have been Metroline.
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Post by redexpress on May 30, 2020 8:32:12 GMT
Sorry think I misread your post I thought you was saying that last time the second bidder must have been Abellio rather than Arriva. Oh I see - I think Arriva bidded in 2003 & 2010 for sure but not in 2017 if that clears things up. The one I’m unsure on is who the 4th bidder was in 2003 - certainly London Central, Arriva & Connex were the other three but maybe Metroline or a new operator bidded for it? I lost track of this thread - are we talking about the 45 here? A strong possibility for the fourth bidder in 2003 would have been National Express, who had already agreed the deal to move into WL, but hadn't yet bought Connex. I guess NatEx would have put in bids for the 78 and 176 in the same tranche too, with Connex perhaps bidding for the 45 but not the 176 (which only had 3 bids).
I wouldn't completely rule out a Metroline bid for the 45 but I'm not sure they would have been confident in keeping a base in the King's Cross area in the long term. It was known that the KX site was earmarked for redevelopment so would have to be vacated at some point, and they didn't have any other base within easy reach of the 45. Of course with hindsight we know they managed to secure KC, but that wasn't known at the time.
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Post by vjaska on May 30, 2020 9:21:26 GMT
Oh I see - I think Arriva bidded in 2003 & 2010 for sure but not in 2017 if that clears things up. The one I’m unsure on is who the 4th bidder was in 2003 - certainly London Central, Arriva & Connex were the other three but maybe Metroline or a new operator bidded for it? I lost track of this thread - are we talking about the 45 here? A strong possibility for the fourth bidder in 2003 would have been National Express, who had already agreed the deal to move into WL, but hadn't yet bought Connex. I guess NatEx would have put in bids for the 78 and 176 in the same tranche too, with Connex perhaps bidding for the 45 but not the 176 (which only had 3 bids). I wouldn't completely rule out a Metroline bid for the 45 but I'm not sure they would have been confident in keeping a base in the King's Cross area in the long term. It was known that the KX site was earmarked for redevelopment so would have to be vacated at some point, and they didn't have any other base within easy reach of the 45. Of course with hindsight we know they managed to secure KC, but that wasn't known at the time.
Indeed, the discussion was about the 45.
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