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Post by ADH45258 on May 28, 2021 17:33:24 GMT
As most of the 13reg TEs for the E9 have been made available by transferring some further VWs to PB, are these VWs to be allocated to a particular route? As there are already enough for the 231.
I also wonder if TE1313 & TE1422, which were already at G, could also form part of the E9's allocation. I think these are currently used as refurb cover at G - so would otherwise need to return to PB eventually. Unless 1 of these TEs are to be used for the E9, one more vehicle will need to transfer to G to complete the TVR of 9.
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May 28, 2021 18:31:08 GMT
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Post by COBO on May 28, 2021 18:31:08 GMT
So the existing diesel and hybrid award was correct. It may also see hybrids from 282 on it often just like how they often stray on 92. But hybrids from the 282 won’t be part of the contracted allocation.
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Post by richard on May 29, 2021 3:51:24 GMT
VMH2566 is the first E9
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Post by dashing0ne on May 29, 2021 7:07:26 GMT
So what is the formal E9 allocation?
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Post by TB123 on May 29, 2021 7:35:52 GMT
So what is the formal E9 allocation? 13 plate TEs and 68 plate VMHs, for now.
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Post by LondonNorthern on May 29, 2021 11:04:41 GMT
It may also see hybrids from 282 on it often just like how they often stray on 92. But hybrids from the 282 won’t be part of the contracted allocation. Allocations might mix he's saying. Like at HT or W
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Post by dan15003 on May 29, 2021 16:09:43 GMT
TE1443 - TE1448 are now at Greenford, that's 7 vehicles. TE1313 and TE1573 are already at Greenford so I'd expect a vehicle or two to transfer in soon! VMH2541/2542 are at G from PB also, so TE1443-1448/VMH2541-2542 will probably be the full allocation. Also add VMH2543.
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Post by COBO on May 30, 2021 23:14:35 GMT
Just something random, but I've noticed Metroline's older Gemini 2s (e.g the LK10s) rattle much more than the newer ones (e.g the LK62 ones). I made the observation from the 81, where some sections (especially the bridge over the M25) where there are many potholes, and bumps of all kinds. Another observation I made is that the LK62s are far more powerful (the acceleration is great) than the LK10s, and also the older Gemini 2s look incredibly worn these days. I would assume they will be replaced at the next renewal. On that note- when will the 237's tender be? 2024.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on May 31, 2021 4:09:31 GMT
TE1443 - TE1448 are now at Greenford, that's 7 vehicles. TE1313 and TE1573 are already at Greenford so I'd expect a vehicle or two to transfer in soon! VMH2541/2542 are at G from PB also, so TE1443-1448/VMH2541-2542 will probably be the full allocation. This route E9 contract could be the final non-SDO route to change operator and have the new contract using mainly diesel double-deckers.
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Post by snowman on May 31, 2021 5:21:20 GMT
VMH2541/2542 are at G from PB also, so TE1443-1448/VMH2541-2542 will probably be the full allocation. This route E9 contract could be the final non-SDO route to change operator and have the new contract using mainly diesel double-deckers. Good point There were very few diesel deckers delivered in 2015-2016, and many operators had by then chosen to order hybrids even for new diesel contracts to ensure they were valid for second term
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Post by dashing0ne on May 31, 2021 7:14:20 GMT
VMH2541/2542 are at G from PB also, so TE1443-1448/VMH2541-2542 will probably be the full allocation. This route E9 contract could be the final non-SDO route to change operator and have the new contract using mainly diesel double-deckers. Excluding School routes, yes.
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Post by YX10FFN on Jun 1, 2021 11:00:45 GMT
Don't know why I didn't think of this before, but the 235's DELs could just stay at AH and replace the DMs and DEs on the 190 and 533, subject to Metroline retaining the 190.
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Post by ADH45258 on Jun 1, 2021 21:58:19 GMT
Where does route 140 turn around at Hayes & Harlington? And can the stand on Station Road (opposite stop K) fit more than one bus?
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Post by ADH45258 on Jun 1, 2021 22:14:48 GMT
Don't know why I didn't think of this before, but the 235's DELs could just stay at AH and replace the DMs and DEs on the 190 and 533, subject to Metroline retaining the 190. This could be an option, though I think the 190 should be converted to DDs instead, especially since the 419 no longer provides the Richmond-Hammersmith link. Plus I'm not sure if the 533 would need the extra capacity once the ferry service begins, or when the bridge is open to pedestrians again. Most of the routes up for tender that these DELs could have been used for all received contract extensions, such as the 143/C11/R68/R70. The only possibility could to bid for the 350 from UX, if the new contract specifies SDs still, plus perhaps the U10 indirectly (from the same tranche) to release 2x newer DEs from elsewhere? After that there's no suitable tenders due to be awarded until the 226 and A10 towards the end of the year. However, with the 350/A10/U10, as the U2 is not contractually allocated DELs (being diverted from the 487), the 16reg at UX could potentially be swapped if needed. And with the 226, with the ex-444/RV1 BHs due to be used on the route for school extras, I could possibly see Metroline bidding to retain the 226 on the basis of moving to PV with new hydrogen SDs alongside these two. My prediction would be for these DELs to be used on existing contracts instead to withdraw older DEs sooner or increase capacity on a route, perhaps at W.
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Post by YX10FFN on Jun 2, 2021 0:31:26 GMT
Don't know why I didn't think of this before, but the 235's DELs could just stay at AH and replace the DMs and DEs on the 190 and 533, subject to Metroline retaining the 190. This could be an option, though I think the 190 should be converted to DDs instead, especially since the 419 no longer provides the Richmond-Hammersmith link. Plus I'm not sure if the 533 would need the extra capacity once the ferry service begins, or when the bridge is open to pedestrians again. Most of the routes up for tender that these DELs could have been used for all received contract extensions, such as the 143/C11/R68/R70. The only possibility could to bid for the 350 from UX, if the new contract specifies SDs still, plus perhaps the U10 indirectly (from the same tranche) to release 2x newer DEs from elsewhere? After that there's no suitable tenders due to be awarded until the 226 and A10 towards the end of the year. However, with the 350/A10/U10, as the U2 is not contractually allocated DELs (being diverted from the 487), the 16reg at UX could potentially be swapped if needed. And with the 226, with the ex-444/RV1 BHs due to be used on the route for school extras, I could possibly see Metroline bidding to retain the 226 on the basis of moving to PV with new hydrogen SDs alongside these two. My prediction would be for these DELs to be used on existing contracts instead to withdraw older DEs sooner or increase capacity on a route, perhaps at W. Even with extra Richmond-Hammersmith traffic the 190 still does not have a capacity problem from all I've seen from it, since the first lockdown VWs have appeared daily and are rarely full or even busy. I would be surprised if another operator bid doubles, only scenario for it being decked would be convenience from Metroline to dispose of the DMs.
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