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Post by wirewiper on Jul 2, 2022 17:08:39 GMT
If by scenic you mean lots of traffic then yes. The route uses the A10 for around 90% of its route. It does pass Enfield Town which has a nice looking Lidl though I'll probably give it a miss then. It's quite a good fast run (usually!) - the 217 even better unless the M25 is playing up.
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Post by cc2005 on Jul 4, 2022 18:35:55 GMT
Another odd VMH working.. VMH 2544 currently on the 295 (fully blinded) at Hammersmith!
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Post by kmkcheng on Jul 7, 2022 22:28:58 GMT
BDE2753 has been delivered and is at CELF
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Post by j67 on Jul 8, 2022 8:49:22 GMT
BDE2753 has been delivered and is at CELF Are there any pictures?
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Post by kmkcheng on Jul 8, 2022 13:03:10 GMT
BDE2753 has been delivered and is at CELF Are there any pictures? There are some on the Londoner FB page
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Metroline
Jul 8, 2022 17:34:02 GMT
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Post by j67 on Jul 8, 2022 17:34:02 GMT
There are some on the Londoner FB page What’s the link?
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Jul 8, 2022 18:37:38 GMT
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Post by sleckdeck on Jul 8, 2022 18:37:38 GMT
I have not seen a single 52 that has not been rammed to the fullest since it had a frequency cut.
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Post by abellion on Jul 8, 2022 19:49:42 GMT
I have not seen a single 52 that has not been rammed to the fullest since it had a frequency cut. Unfortunately it's about savings. Plenty of routes chosen for cuts are ridiculous, I remember the 2/170/N9 disasters some months ago
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Jul 8, 2022 23:20:03 GMT
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Post by sleckdeck on Jul 8, 2022 23:20:03 GMT
I have not seen a single 52 that has not been rammed to the fullest since it had a frequency cut. Unfortunately it's about savings. Plenty of routes chosen for cuts are ridiculous, I remember the 2/170/N9 disasters some months ago There are routes that can be cut that I don’t think would suffer way too much, for example - the 306, 493, 235, 218…routes like these. I think the 267 and the 237 I is next for TFL to certainly risk vulnerability, especially the 267 - the route is ran terribly (not because of abellio but due to the frequency not matching the demand for the route). The 267 is a route which makes many long distance journeys, which sees LTs as sort of useless - a swap with the 267 and the 113 would make a lot of sense?
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Post by YX10FFN on Jul 8, 2022 23:32:55 GMT
Unfortunately it's about savings. Plenty of routes chosen for cuts are ridiculous, I remember the 2/170/N9 disasters some months ago There are routes that can be cut that I don’t think would suffer way too much, for example - the 306, 493, 235, 218…routes like these. I think the 267 and the 237 I is next for TFL to certainly risk vulnerability, especially the 267 - the route is ran terribly (not because of abellio but due to the frequency not matching the demand for the route). The 267 is a route which makes many long distance journeys, which sees LTs as sort of useless - a swap with the 267 and the 113 would make a lot of sense? The 235 and 493 are far from being cut-worthy. Not sure where you're getting that impression from, especially the 235? Well documented that the 235 really struggles between Hounslow and Feltham. I further disagree regarding the 267- I think Abellio operate it quite well given the circumstances.
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Post by vjaska on Jul 8, 2022 23:55:00 GMT
Unfortunately it's about savings. Plenty of routes chosen for cuts are ridiculous, I remember the 2/170/N9 disasters some months ago There are routes that can be cut that I don’t think would suffer way too much, for example - the 306, 493, 235, 218…routes like these. I think the 267 and the 237 I is next for TFL to certainly risk vulnerability, especially the 267 - the route is ran terribly (not because of abellio but due to the frequency not matching the demand for the route). The 267 is a route which makes many long distance journeys, which sees LTs as sort of useless - a swap with the 267 and the 113 would make a lot of sense? It's not about what suffers - it's literally where can we make the most savings not what deserves or doesn't deserve to be cut. I'm bemused by your inclusion of the 235 & 493 as routes that wouldn't suffer much particularly the former (isn't it the busiest single decker route in London or have I made that up?) but also the 493 is a busy route I can assure you. The reliability/unreliability of the 267 has no bearing on any risk of vulnerability - if they can get some savings from the 267, then they'll cut it. LT's have no coloration with long journeys - I really don't like them either but I don't think we should be making comparisons that make no sense
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Post by robster1 on Jul 9, 2022 13:06:02 GMT
Have got to say the EvoSetis on the 607 are like being in a sauna no air conditioning very little windows to open, got to the stage where i wait for a 427 maybe longer but better cooling.
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Post by YX10FFN on Jul 9, 2022 13:43:35 GMT
Have got to say the EvoSetis on the 607 are like being in a sauna no air conditioning very little windows to open, got to the stage where i wait for a 427 maybe longer but better cooling. Yes I’ve actually just got off a 90 where I was roasted alive… air circulation could be improved on the top deck. Cooler on other buses I took, even VWs.
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Post by abellion on Jul 9, 2022 14:12:57 GMT
Have got to say the EvoSetis on the 607 are like being in a sauna no air conditioning very little windows to open, got to the stage where i wait for a 427 maybe longer but better cooling. The fans are so inconsistent too... in 16-18 degree weather I had a DW journey on the 123 with the fan blasting the entire time, meanwhile I regularly use routes like the 44, 156 and 270 in 25 degree+ heat on overcrowded buses and it is an absolute nightmare.
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Post by vjaska on Jul 9, 2022 14:32:40 GMT
Have got to say the EvoSetis on the 607 are like being in a sauna no air conditioning very little windows to open, got to the stage where i wait for a 427 maybe longer but better cooling. We don’t have air conditioning on buses in the UK - it’s air cooling that’s used instead which to be most affective needs all windows shut but has never been publicly explained to people.
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