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Post by jamaal on Apr 28, 2009 20:10:52 GMT
Yes thats right mate the 07 examples did stay put, however i did manage to see 57 reg examples on the 251
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2009 10:32:20 GMT
Yes thats right mate the 07 examples did stay put, however i did manage to see 57 reg examples on the 251 Yes I've seen them too, most notably MM786 - most of the time I've seen a 57' reg one out on the 251 it has been this exact bus Saying that I saw this, MM787 and 789 on the same day on one occasion.
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Post by jamaal on Apr 29, 2009 12:03:13 GMT
Metroline told me there are 17 Enviro 200s on the way along with some Enviro 400s but 4 are going for the 395, a further 5 for the E8 thats 9 so where are the other 8 designated to, because they told me they hadnt confirmed the allocation for the remaining buses, and i checked London Bus Routes and at one stage they striked out the new buses for the 232, and on various occasions to add to this ive seen many DPs from Brentford on NW Route
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2009 14:20:49 GMT
Metroline told me there are 17 Enviro 200s on the way along with some Enviro 400s but 4 are going for the 395, a further 5 for the E8 thats 9 so where are the other 8 designated to, because they told me they hadnt confirmed the allocation for the remaining buses, and i checked London Bus Routes and at one stage they striked out the new buses for the 232, and on various occasions to add to this ive seen many DPs from Brentford on NW Route It actually says on London Bus Routes (Service Changes) that the 232's E200s will be arriving this September (so later than expected). Saying that, about 10 are required so the 8 leftover buses Metroline have stated wouldn't be enough to furnish the entire route. So who knows.
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Post by jamaal on Apr 29, 2009 15:17:56 GMT
yh thats the problem, thats why i dont thin the 232 is getting Enviro 200 and the reason why i argued that point in another thread, and to add Metroline own DT5 and DT6 they are currently in store at Perivale West, they have been repainted, I would love to see them run on the 237 again, but then again the 237 has recieved an upgrade, to a bus which never seems to look bad, no matter how old it is.
and heres a question Do you prefer Metrolines VP 3xx or Metrolines TP 3xx the 52 Plates and why and your opinion on which ages better
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Post by TA1 on Apr 29, 2009 16:12:02 GMT
The 232 Is Definately getting new buses, as its contract specifies it too get new buses.
i think that as the 232 And 206 are both going to PV there Buses will be intermixed with 90
and 251 will keep its 07 examples imo as its easier.
Insert maybe the road should be reduced to one way traffic with a bus lane for lane and exsisting traffic or "local" for the other lane
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Post by jamaal on Apr 29, 2009 18:04:34 GMT
So for the 232 they could be getting MAN/MCV Evolutions so that Perivale can have an all out even bus type for running routes if anybody gets me
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Post by beaver14uk on Apr 29, 2009 19:40:57 GMT
In order to clear up speculation I understand this is what is happening.
In order to standardise vehicle types at each location, the current allocation of 11 x 2007-built MCV bodied MAN vehicles will be transferred from route 251 to route 232 and will be replaced by the current vehicles allocated to route 232 until the commencement of the new route contract for route 232 in August 2009, when new vehicles will be introduced. Route 206 will retain its current allocation of 9 x 2007-built, MCV bodied, MAN vehicles.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2009 23:01:54 GMT
In order to clear up speculation I understand this is what is happening. In order to standardise vehicle types at each location, the current allocation of 11 x 2007-built MCV bodied MAN vehicles will be transferred from route 251 to route 232 and will be replaced by the current vehicles allocated to route 232 until the commencement of the new route contract for route 232 in August 2009, when new vehicles will be introduced. Route 206 will retain its current allocation of 9 x 2007-built, MCV bodied, MAN vehicles. Thanks for that Beaver So my beloved 251 is losing those MMs and Darts are returning for the meantime That's a shame. Normally this sort of thing wouldn't matter as long as a bus turns up that will get you from A to B, but if you see the state of some of these Darts you have to wonder how they manage to make it to their destination ;D Beaver do you happen to know if whatever new vehicles on order will be put on the 232 in August (as initially planned) or will they go onto the 251 instead, leaving the 232 with MMs? Was just a bit confused with a bit of your post (perhaps I read it wrong) - cheers
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Post by jamaal on Apr 29, 2009 23:35:03 GMT
If the 232 Contract specifies that the route requires new buses, it has to get new buses, Metroline have probably ordered some MAN/MCVs for the 232 so perivale will be a flat out MAN/MCV operating base for single deckers.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2009 12:40:47 GMT
If the 232 Contract specifies that the route requires new buses, it has to get new buses, Metroline have probably ordered some MAN/MCVs for the 232 so perivale will be a flat out MAN/MCV operating base for single deckers. I was just asking seeing as the '07 reg MMs have only just turned two years old - do they qualify as 'new buses' (even though they're not) or do they fall under the 'existing buses' category? I'm sure there have been some new contracts awarded lately with new buses specified, yet the buses have turned out to be up to a year old Rather than guessing that Metroline will order more MMs, lets just wait and see what happens.
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Post by jamaal on Apr 30, 2009 13:16:11 GMT
Thats the problem Metroline had with the 297 and still have with the 460, in the first place the 08 Cricklewood Enviros were initially ordered for perivale and TE 888 was at perivale as shown here www.ianrivett.fotopic.net/p51681851.html but due to the iminant renewal of high profile routes 16,32,139 and 139 the buses were sent to cricklewood, the 297 has recieved its new buses 8 months later whilst the 460 is awaiting its new buses.
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Post by vjaska on Apr 30, 2009 14:00:15 GMT
If the 232 Contract specifies that the route requires new buses, it has to get new buses, Metroline have probably ordered some MAN/MCVs for the 232 so perivale will be a flat out MAN/MCV operating base for single deckers. Metroline ordering MAN MCVs for the 232? Last I heard it was either ADL e200 Evolutions or just standard e200s.
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Post by TA1 on Apr 30, 2009 15:47:04 GMT
No its standard E200's. Unless something has changed which i doubt.
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Post by beaver14uk on Apr 30, 2009 15:50:02 GMT
As I understand it new vehicles on the 232 from August and the new contract. In order to clear up speculation I understand this is what is happening. In order to standardise vehicle types at each location, the current allocation of 11 x 2007-built MCV bodied MAN vehicles will be transferred from route 251 to route 232 and will be replaced by the current vehicles allocated to route 232 until the commencement of the new route contract for route 232 in August 2009, when new vehicles will be introduced. Route 206 will retain its current allocation of 9 x 2007-built, MCV bodied, MAN vehicles. Thanks for that Beaver So my beloved 251 is losing those MMs and Darts are returning for the meantime That's a shame. Normally this sort of thing wouldn't matter as long as a bus turns up that will get you from A to B, but if you see the state of some of these Darts you have to wonder how they manage to make it to their destination ;D Beaver do you happen to know if whatever new vehicles on order will be put on the 232 in August (as initially planned) or will they go onto the 251 instead, leaving the 232 with MMs? Was just a bit confused with a bit of your post (perhaps I read it wrong) - cheers
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