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Post by snowman on Oct 22, 2019 9:51:58 GMT
Oh no no I wasn’t pointing that out, I was making a point that it’s quite worrying that there is just six out in service of the 14 😬 well i think there is a new one entering service everyday so we shall hopefull see an increase of OME's in service by the end of this week. Remember TfL issued a Press Release (see First Line of notes for editors) that route 43 conversion will be complete by end of September and route 134 by end of October. There is even quotes from Metroline on the statement tfl.gov.uk/info-for/media/press-releases/2019/september/london-s-electric-bus-fleet-becomes-the-largest-in-europe
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Post by WSD3 on Oct 22, 2019 12:39:53 GMT
does that include the night service too, because we are nearly at the end of October and still no BDE's on the 43 for the night service
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Post by E279 on Oct 22, 2019 13:22:10 GMT
does that include the night service too, because we are nearly at the end of October and still no BDE's on the 43 for the night service I recon the night service will either be ran by VWHs or won’t run with BDEs until all BDEs are in service.
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Post by redbus on Oct 22, 2019 13:42:58 GMT
does that include the night service too, because we are nearly at the end of October and still no BDE's on the 43 for the night service I recon the night service will either be ran by VWHs or won’t run with BDEs until all BDEs are in service. You are probably right, but we are not far from the complete conversion of the 43 now the daytime service is all BDE. With more buses having just entered service in the last week (I think), it may not be long until the remaining few enter service and the night service will become BDE. Might make end October yet. Contrast that to the 134s which seemingly have a long way to go.
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Post by E279 on Oct 22, 2019 13:49:44 GMT
I recon the night service will either be ran by VWHs or won’t run with BDEs until all BDEs are in service. You are probably right, but we are not far from the complete conversion of the 43 now the daytime service is all BDE. With more buses having just entered service in the last week (I think), it may not be long until the remaining few enter service and the night service will become BDE. Might make end October yet. Contrast that to the 134s which seemingly have a long way to go. The 134s buses are entering service quick enough now but they just seem to develop faults or break down as soon as they come into service.
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Post by redbus on Oct 22, 2019 13:55:15 GMT
You are probably right, but we are not far from the complete conversion of the 43 now the daytime service is all BDE. With more buses having just entered service in the last week (I think), it may not be long until the remaining few enter service and the night service will become BDE. Might make end October yet. Contrast that to the 134s which seemingly have a long way to go. The 134s buses are entering service quick enough now but they just seem to develop faults or break down as soon as they come into service. Sure more and more are entering service, but reliability is essential if the conversion is ever to be made. LVF at the time of writing is showing only three electrics on the 134, whilst another four were on the route earlier this morning (presumably breaking down or developing a fault which is why they are no longer in service on the route). That does not bode well, but hopefully it is only 'teething' issues which will soon be sorted.
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Post by E279 on Oct 22, 2019 16:12:47 GMT
2 more DEMs have entered service.
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Post by rif153 on Oct 22, 2019 16:23:05 GMT
Oh no no I wasn’t pointing that out, I was making a point that it’s quite worrying that there is just six out in service of the 14 😬 And so the battery woes continue, it is quite worrying that the OMEs can't seem to do consecutive days in service.
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Post by rif153 on Oct 22, 2019 16:32:49 GMT
does that include the night service too, because we are nearly at the end of October and still no BDE's on the 43 for the night service I recon the night service will either be ran by VWHs or won’t run with BDEs until all BDEs are in service. I think you're right but even then we may see the odd VWH on the N43 if there are BDEs out in the long term, forcing Metroline to charge all their BDEs overnight.
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Post by george on Oct 22, 2019 16:35:22 GMT
I recon the night service will either be ran by VWHs or won’t run with BDEs until all BDEs are in service. I think you're right but even then we may see the odd VWH on the N43 if there are BDEs out in the long term, forcing Metroline to charge all their BDEs overnight. Will be difficult for S when they get the electrics as there will be no other bus available for them to use.
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Post by rj131 on Oct 22, 2019 16:35:40 GMT
Oh no no I wasn’t pointing that out, I was making a point that it’s quite worrying that there is just six out in service of the 14 😬 And so the battery woes continue, it is quite worrying that the OMEs can't seem to do consecutive days in service. I mean honestly, I just picked a random OME (2653, YJ19HVD was the one I chose) and put it into LVF history you’ll see how much time it spends in service, or rather not. It’s actually woeful. Compare that to a BDE I randomly chose (2618, LJ19CUG) it’s been out nearly every day and the vast majority of the time lasts from morning until the evening. I mean if they’re having this magnitude of issues now with just 14 in service what on earth will they be like in a year’s time (if all remains as is*)! I mean there’s ‘teething issues’ and then there’s what we’re seeing here. *By that I mean if there doesn’t end up being some sort of extensive work done to them to make them better. If that happens then hopefully in a years time there could actually be significant improvement. Well it can’t get worse!
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Post by rj131 on Oct 22, 2019 16:38:12 GMT
I think you're right but even then we may see the odd VWH on the N43 if there are BDEs out in the long term, forcing Metroline to charge all their BDEs overnight. Will be difficult for S when they get the electricts as there will be no other bus available for them to use. Oh wow I didn’t think of that. If it becomes an issue maybe the night 94 service could be transferred to V with hybrids from the E3? (*Speculation alert* )
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Post by kmkcheng on Oct 22, 2019 16:42:15 GMT
And so the battery woes continue, it is quite worrying that the OMEs can't seem to do consecutive days in service. I mean honestly, I just picked a random OME (2653, YJ19HVD was the one I chose) and put it into LVF history you’ll see how much time it spends in service, or rather not. Did you actually check LVF? The OME you picked (OME2653) has actually worked for 20 consecutive days!! The last day it didn’t go out in service was 2/10. It even did Sundays as well
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Post by rif153 on Oct 22, 2019 16:50:12 GMT
Will be difficult for S when they get the electricts as there will be no other bus available for them to use. Oh wow I didn’t think of that. If it becomes an issue maybe the night 94 service could be transferred to V with hybrids from the E3? (*Speculation alert* ) I certainly hope if RATP do have issues with BYDs on the 94 that they do loan some ADHs from the E3 in, it would be great to still have the odd ADH on the 94 (a type I have so much nostalgia for) even better would be for the 60-reg ADHs to go back on the 94 - which is made more likely by the fact that some of the 62-reg ADHs at V (which are already a minority) are transferring to RP for the 266 (as are S' ADHs too)
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Post by rif153 on Oct 22, 2019 16:52:25 GMT
I think you're right but even then we may see the odd VWH on the N43 if there are BDEs out in the long term, forcing Metroline to charge all their BDEs overnight. Will be difficult for S when they get the electrics as there will be no other bus available for them to use. I'm praying S aren't forced into putting an LT on the 94 if they have no other available buses, thankfully that seems an unlikely prospect as LTs can only run on the 94 between Goldhawk Road and Piccadilly Circus - the issue is the turns in the Turnham Green area, although the 94 has no official curtailment points west of Goldhawk Road.
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