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Post by bustavane on Jun 23, 2021 11:49:02 GMT
I assume AL will continue putting spare dds on the 163 and 164 (and 152) to free up sufficient 65-reg SEs No need to - the 5 SE’s that are part of the 80 are in the process of transferring with two already going over to AL. 3 more WHV’s need to move over to A to allow the 4 SEN’s to move to AL completing the 413 allocation as the 80 currently has 6 WHV’s My point was if no more Me's make it into service before 3rd July
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Post by vjaska on Jun 23, 2021 11:54:51 GMT
No need to - the 5 SE’s that are part of the 80 are in the process of transferring with two already going over to AL. 3 more WHV’s need to move over to A to allow the 4 SEN’s to move to AL completing the 413 allocation as the 80 currently has 6 WHV’s My point was if no more Me's make it into service before 3rd July I get that but they managed to get 7 in already, odds are they’ll get at least 3 more in the next week and a half
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2021 12:42:37 GMT
I assume AL will continue putting spare dds on the 163 and 164 (and 152) to free up sufficient 65-reg SEs No need to - the 5 SE’s that are part of the 80 are in the process of transferring with two already going over to AL. 3 more WHV’s need to move over to A to allow the 4 SEN’s to move to AL completing the 413 allocation as the 80 currently has 6 WHV’s There were 6 SE allocated to the 80, SE268-273, of which 3 are now at AL and 1 at PL. I expect the final 2, if they aren’t already at AL, to turn up very soon as they haven’t been on the 80 this week yet. I would have thought there are more than enough spares at A to release the 4 SENs.
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Post by vjaska on Jun 23, 2021 13:35:15 GMT
No need to - the 5 SE’s that are part of the 80 are in the process of transferring with two already going over to AL. 3 more WHV’s need to move over to A to allow the 4 SEN’s to move to AL completing the 413 allocation as the 80 currently has 6 WHV’s There were 6 SE allocated to the 80, SE268-273, of which 3 are now at AL and 1 at PL. I expect the final 2, if they aren’t already at AL, to turn up very soon as they haven’t been on the 80 this week yet. I would have thought there are more than enough spares at A to release the 4 SENs. Ah yes, forgot about SE268 moving to PL, thanks for that. Not sure what spares at A your referring to - other routes spare buses or actual buses not assigned to a route? I presume it's the former but given they still have a week and half roughly to go, my money is on enough WHV's moving over before 3rd July. If they don't get more into service, then it's possibly it may temporarily other buses at A.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2021 13:53:28 GMT
There were 6 SE allocated to the 80, SE268-273, of which 3 are now at AL and 1 at PL. I expect the final 2, if they aren’t already at AL, to turn up very soon as they haven’t been on the 80 this week yet. I would have thought there are more than enough spares at A to release the 4 SENs. Ah yes, forgot about SE268 moving to PL, thanks for that. Not sure what spares at A your referring to - other routes spare buses or actual buses not assigned to a route? I presume it's the former but given they still have a week and half roughly to go, my money is on enough WHV's moving over before 3rd July. If they don't get more into service, then it's possibly it may temporarily other buses at A. What I meant was that there could be enough pool spares at A to cover a couple of DDs on the 80. By my calculations there are approximately 80 DDs excluding the recent WHV transfers to cover a PVR of 70, A would be a bit tight on spares but they could use 2 existing pool DDs to free up 2 SEN for AL until additional Me free up more WHV. Like I said A would be bit tight on spares for a few weeks but it is entirely doable right now. I agree that there are likely to be a few more Me in service in the next week.
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Post by Paul on Jun 23, 2021 15:23:29 GMT
Think there's an argument for the 320 to receive weekend 24 hour service when that starts back up again. Biggin Hill is currently unserved by any night route. Does the 320 really need a night service? Back when TB had the 246 before I used to see a huge number of taxis buzzing between Bromley and Biggin Hill on the very latest trips (including running back out of service from Westerham at 1am-ish) at the weekend. Obviously things have been a little different since we took it back over (!) and Biggin Hill is absolutely dead at night. I think that the OP is right in saying there’s an argument for at least a weekend night service given Biggin Hill’s isolation from the night bus network but is there the money for it?
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Post by enviroPB on Jun 23, 2021 16:05:09 GMT
Think there's an argument for the 320 to receive weekend 24 hour service when that starts back up again. Biggin Hill is currently unserved by any night route. TfL's justification for a weekend night route was essentially if a popular route served a station linked with the Night Tube, then convert it. Under that premise the 320 wouldn't qualify. However I think TfL were a bit too brash with stripping all weekend night routes of their 24 hour operation. They converted the 132 and 486 a full 11 months before the Night Tube served North Greenwich. Veering off course a little but proper spending (which for night routes isn't so huge) should be allowed to convert routes to 24 hour daily, irrespective of Night Tube.
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Post by YY13VKP on Jun 23, 2021 17:01:14 GMT
Have heard that SEN10 was involved in an incident with a cyclist on Luxted Road in Downe on the R8 this afternoon. It has been replaced with 182. Wishing the cyclist involved a speedy recovery!
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Post by YX10FFN on Jun 23, 2021 18:27:19 GMT
Think there's an argument for the 320 to receive weekend 24 hour service when that starts back up again. Biggin Hill is currently unserved by any night route. TfL's justification for a weekend night route was essentially if a popular route served a station linked with the Night Tube, then convert it. Under that premise the 320 wouldn't qualify. However I think TfL were a bit too brash with stripping all weekend night routes of their 24 hour operation. They converted the 132 and 486 a full 11 months before the Night Tube served North Greenwich. Veering off course a little but proper spending (which for night routes isn't so huge) should be allowed to convert routes to 24 hour daily, irrespective of Night Tube. I didn't know that the weekend night routes were directly linked to the night tube but it makes complete sense, cheers. Looking back on it giving the 320 a night service does seem a bit ridiculous
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Post by ak121 on Jun 23, 2021 18:34:53 GMT
Is it just me, but the front of the 200’s MetroDeckers seem to bulge out more compared to ML’s OMEs and TT’s OEs? I wonder why Optare decided to change the front, considering that TT’s batch was only recently fully completed.
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Post by MoEnviro on Jun 23, 2021 18:44:43 GMT
Is it just me, but the front of the 200’s MetroDeckers seem to bulge out more compared to ML’s OMEs and TT’s OEs? I wonder why Optare decided to change the front, considering that TT’s batch was only recently fully completed. Yes it’s a new design to hide some of the windscreen wipers flic.kr/p/2m763Ts
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Post by Busboy105 on Jun 23, 2021 21:22:04 GMT
Is it just me, but the front of the 200’s MetroDeckers seem to bulge out more compared to ML’s OMEs and TT’s OEs? I wonder why Optare decided to change the front, considering that TT’s batch was only recently fully completed. Yes it’s a new design to hide some of the windscreen wipers flic.kr/p/2m763TsLooks even weird than before
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Post by cc2005 on Jun 23, 2021 21:40:51 GMT
Is it just me, but the front of the 200’s MetroDeckers seem to bulge out more compared to ML’s OMEs and TT’s OEs? I wonder why Optare decided to change the front, considering that TT’s batch was only recently fully completed. Yes it’s a new design to hide some of the windscreen wipers flic.kr/p/2m763TsAlso appears to somewhat hide the camera "mirrors"
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jun 23, 2021 21:43:09 GMT
Also appears to somewhat hide the camera "mirrors" If anything it brings them out more, it's like someone got a very weird piece of lego and stuck it on the front of the bus
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Post by redexpress on Jun 23, 2021 21:52:18 GMT
Is it just me, but the front of the 200’s MetroDeckers seem to bulge out more compared to ML’s OMEs and TT’s OEs? I wonder why Optare decided to change the front, considering that TT’s batch was only recently fully completed. Yes it’s a new design to hide some of the windscreen wipers flic.kr/p/2m763TsNot just to hide the wipers from view, but more to protect pedestrians in the event of a collision - apparently the original design doesn't meet new requirements in that area.
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