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Post by vjaska on Jun 25, 2022 19:25:55 GMT
I actually prefer the two lines myself so don't understand why they're faffing with it again? They need to make their mind up one way or the other As I said TfL provided McKenna with a two line layout which should have been used for new blinds. (Layouts were provided for all destinations.) Very aware of what you said which has nothing to do with what I posted
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Post by DT 11 on Jun 26, 2022 12:33:36 GMT
I actually prefer the two lines myself so don't understand why they're faffing with it again? They need to make their mind up one way or the other As I said TfL provided McKenna with a two line layout which should have been used for new blinds. (Layouts were provided for all destinations.) You have said that twice, obviously a mistake has been made. You stating that is not going to change reality...
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Post by wirewiper on Jun 26, 2022 12:56:40 GMT
The biggest joke is that the “year of the bus” is followed by a relentless series of cuts on buses by the son of a bus driver "Year of the Bus" (2014) was under Johnson's watch - Khan wasn't elected until 2016.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Jun 26, 2022 20:42:09 GMT
if it is the case why PM have removed newer blinds for the current PM set, then it's a simple case that those EH's can be used on other PM routes.
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Post by southlondonbus on Jun 27, 2022 10:30:35 GMT
With the choice of BYD/Citys this is the first time since 1996 that A (Sutton) is getting a large batch of the standard Go Ahead current choice of vehicles after the lone batches of EVLs and DOEs.
I don't know whether there are any similarities between the BYD/City and the EHs to make it logical to use EHs for the 80 rather then WHVs or are they totally different for there to be no point to that?
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Post by southlondon413 on Jun 27, 2022 10:48:44 GMT
With the choice of BYD/Citys this is the first time since 1996 that A (Sutton) is getting a large batch of the standard Go Ahead current choice of vehicles after the lone batches of EVLs and DOEs. I don't know whether there are any similarities between the BYD/City and the EHs to make it logical to use EHs for the 80 rather then WHVs or are they totally different for there to be no point to that? I think it’ll likely depend on what happens with the 213. If the 213 is retained with hybrids than it could make sense to keep WHV at A. Although I would be disappointed to see the 213 retained with existing vehicles as it hasn’t had anything new since 2002 when it was retained with new EVLs.
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Post by vjaska on Jun 27, 2022 11:03:26 GMT
With the choice of BYD/Citys this is the first time since 1996 that A (Sutton) is getting a large batch of the standard Go Ahead current choice of vehicles after the lone batches of EVLs and DOEs. I don't know whether there are any similarities between the BYD/City and the EHs to make it logical to use EHs for the 80 rather then WHVs or are they totally different for there to be no point to that? I think it’ll likely depend on what happens with the 213. If the 213 is retained with hybrids than it could make sense to keep WHV at A. Although I would be disappointed to see the 213 retained with existing vehicles as it hasn’t had anything new since 2002 when it was retained with new EVLs. It had four E's new in 2007 (E58-61)
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Post by southlondon413 on Jun 27, 2022 11:13:34 GMT
I think it’ll likely depend on what happens with the 213. If the 213 is retained with hybrids than it could make sense to keep WHV at A. Although I would be disappointed to see the 213 retained with existing vehicles as it hasn’t had anything new since 2002 when it was retained with new EVLs. It had four E's new in 2007 (E58-61) For a PVR increase at the contract extension in 2007. It hasn’t had a full new vehicle allocation since 2002. Perhaps I should have been clearer.
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Post by jacques on Jun 27, 2022 12:34:46 GMT
With the choice of BYD/Citys this is the first time since 1996 that A (Sutton) is getting a large batch of the standard Go Ahead current choice of vehicles after the lone batches of EVLs and DOEs. I don't know whether there are any similarities between the BYD/City and the EHs to make it logical to use EHs for the 80 rather then WHVs or are they totally different for there to be no point to that? Where has this been confirmed or hinted, is there an article?
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Post by southlondon413 on Jun 27, 2022 12:36:29 GMT
With the choice of BYD/Citys this is the first time since 1996 that A (Sutton) is getting a large batch of the standard Go Ahead current choice of vehicles after the lone batches of EVLs and DOEs. I don't know whether there are any similarities between the BYD/City and the EHs to make it logical to use EHs for the 80 rather then WHVs or are they totally different for there to be no point to that? Where has this been confirmed or hinted, is there an article? Confirmed by LOTS. Check the new vehicle thread.
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Post by jacques on Jun 27, 2022 12:57:23 GMT
Where has this been confirmed or hinted, is there an article? Confirmed by LOTS. Check the new vehicle thread. Thanks. Anyone know who is funding these new vehicles? Is it GAL or TFL?
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Post by southlondon413 on Jun 27, 2022 13:02:47 GMT
Confirmed by LOTS. Check the new vehicle thread. Thanks. Anyone know who is funding these new vehicles? Is it GAL or TFL? TfL don’t fund vehicles for operators, obviously the LTs are separate issues, so will be GAL through the contract terms. I’d expect them to have the new “upgraded” specification as well.
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Post by SILENCED on Jun 27, 2022 13:05:08 GMT
Confirmed by LOTS. Check the new vehicle thread. Thanks. Anyone know who is funding these new vehicles? Is it GAL or TFL? Directly GAL. Indirectly TfL via route contracts.
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Post by jacques on Jun 27, 2022 13:07:56 GMT
Thanks. Anyone know who is funding these new vehicles? Is it GAL or TFL? Directly GAL. Indirectly TfL via route contracts. Thanks. Does the individual route contract bids made by the operators include the new vehicle purchase costs?
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Post by M1104 on Jun 27, 2022 13:20:59 GMT
With the choice of BYD/Citys this is the first time since 1996 that A (Sutton) is getting a large batch of the standard Go Ahead current choice of vehicles after the lone batches of EVLs and DOEs. I don't know whether there are any similarities between the BYD/City and the EHs to make it logical to use EHs for the 80 rather then WHVs or are they totally different for there to be no point to that? I imagine the EHs have more differences than similarities to the BYD/City. For starters the dashboard layouts on the latter have more computerised displays and thus also a different computer management system. Passenger doors operations also mechanically differ, the latter having motorised operation...not to mention the likely differences in general schematics of the wiring throughout the bus types. I imagine it therefore wouldn't make much difference whether EH's are acquired or the WHV's are kept as they're both just as different to the BYD/City.
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