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Post by southlondon413 on Jun 17, 2024 18:01:10 GMT
Who picks up the bill when those vehicles hired in from other operators need considerable work down to bring them within the Go Ahead repair standard? As I mentioned earlier different operators can have wildly different repair standards. At the end of the day TfL have allowed this to happen and until they demand otherwise the situation won’t change. It isn’t really acceptable either to remove any spares that may be floating around to service the 200. It would inevitably lead to issues at other garages. Of course anyone can take an interest in any area they like but the reality is I’m not going to complain about a route in Barking or Camden or Harrow that I take once in a blue moon when I’m bored on a Saturday afternoon, if ever. It doesn’t affect my life if that one time I take it it’s stuck in traffic or there’s roadworks. Just like I wouldn’t start complaining back about something people who are on the ground are seeing daily. Had these single deckers not been available, presumably from the 163 and 164, there wouldn't have been much choice but to hire buses from other operators. As for the costs GAL and Optare/Switch can argue that out between themselves. Which is ultimately why it was a good thing they lost the 276 and had spares available. Pushing the 265 conversion helped as did the 455s loss. If Go Ahead hadn’t lost those or been able to push conversions then the route would have likely been suspended. It’s unlikely any of the other operators would have had vehicles available to help and TfL probably wouldn’t accept non-TfL spec buses as anything other than extras. Even then most of the approved RRP operators have TfL spec vehicles. But to say that taking on too much work is the root cause of this issue is categorically incorrect.
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Post by london23 on Jun 17, 2024 20:35:58 GMT
Has EH118 been refurbished as it hasn't been on the road for a month but is back today. Camberwell must be short on buses as EH41 and 42 have been on loan at Peckham and Ee188 is currently withdrawn at the moment and MHV19 hasn't been seen since two weeks ago.
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Post by DE20106 on Jun 17, 2024 20:48:25 GMT
Has EH118 been refurbished as it hasn't been on the road for a month but is back today. Camberwell must be short on buses as EH41 and 42 have been on loan at Peckham and Ee188 is currently withdrawn at the moment and MHV19 hasn't been seen since two weeks ago. They shouldn’t be short on buses, they’ve got a lot of extra Ees there which are the 151’s batch that can’t go on the route. That’s why we always see a significant number of Ee’s on the 35 as well as the 40 and 185. That frees hybrids to other Q routes
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Post by london23 on Jun 17, 2024 21:30:12 GMT
Do you think Newcross would be short on buses to as EH244 is of the road at the moment.
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Post by ServerKing on Jun 18, 2024 1:03:48 GMT
Full 262 batch of Ee have appeared on Bus lists on the web LF24ZNW Ee263 LF24ZNX Ee264 LF24ZNY Ee265 LF24ZNZ Ee266 LF24ZPB Ee267 LF24ZPC Ee268 LF24ZPD Ee269 LF24ZPE Ee270 LF24ZPG Ee271 LF24ZPH Ee272 LF24ZPJ Ee273 Are these BYD D8UR (?) Or ADL's new integral E400?
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Post by cl54 on Jun 18, 2024 2:49:56 GMT
Full 262 batch of Ee have appeared on Bus lists on the web LF24ZNW Ee263 LF24ZNX Ee264 LF24ZNY Ee265 LF24ZNZ Ee266 LF24ZPB Ee267 LF24ZPC Ee268 LF24ZPD Ee269 LF24ZPE Ee270 LF24ZPG Ee271 LF24ZPH Ee272 LF24ZPJ Ee273 Are these BYD D8UR (?) Or ADL's new integral E400? A London version of the new integral is not approved at this stage.
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Post by BK15AZR on Jun 18, 2024 10:27:19 GMT
Has EH118 been refurbished as it hasn't been on the road for a month but is back today. Camberwell must be short on buses as EH41 and 42 have been on loan at Peckham and Ee188 is currently withdrawn at the moment and MHV19 hasn't been seen since two weeks ago. Speaking of EH118, I think it really needs a refurb any time soon as its interior was looking tatty after its spell at DS/RR - even worse than the native 115 batch!
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Post by greg on Jun 18, 2024 11:54:47 GMT
Has EH118 been refurbished as it hasn't been on the road for a month but is back today. Camberwell must be short on buses as EH41 and 42 have been on loan at Peckham and Ee188 is currently withdrawn at the moment and MHV19 hasn't been seen since two weeks ago. Whats happened to Ee188?
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Post by DE20106 on Jun 18, 2024 11:59:57 GMT
Has EH118 been refurbished as it hasn't been on the road for a month but is back today. Camberwell must be short on buses as EH41 and 42 have been on loan at Peckham and Ee188 is currently withdrawn at the moment and MHV19 hasn't been seen since two weeks ago. Whats happened to Ee188? Crash I think
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Post by Alexis on Jun 18, 2024 15:24:47 GMT
Has EH118 been refurbished as it hasn't been on the road for a month but is back today. Camberwell must be short on buses as EH41 and 42 have been on loan at Peckham and Ee188 is currently withdrawn at the moment and MHV19 hasn't been seen since two weeks ago. They shouldn’t be short on buses, they’ve got a lot of extra Ees there which are the 151’s batch that can’t go on the route. That’s why we always see a significant number of Ee’s on the 35 as well as the 40 and 185. That frees hybrids to other Q routes We are pretty short on buses, it's now an almost daily occurrence for there to be at least 1-2 drivers with no bus available for them.
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Post by SouthLondoner468 on Jun 18, 2024 16:05:44 GMT
Has EH118 been refurbished as it hasn't been on the road for a month but is back today. Camberwell must be short on buses as EH41 and 42 have been on loan at Peckham and Ee188 is currently withdrawn at the moment and MHV19 hasn't been seen since two weeks ago. Ee173-176 are at Q
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Post by southlondon413 on Jun 18, 2024 16:12:55 GMT
Has EH118 been refurbished as it hasn't been on the road for a month but is back today. Camberwell must be short on buses as EH41 and 42 have been on loan at Peckham and Ee188 is currently withdrawn at the moment and MHV19 hasn't been seen since two weeks ago. Ee173-176 are at Q 172 is also at Q, it’s also part of the 213 batch which got moved elsewhere.
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Post by vjaska on Jun 18, 2024 19:59:43 GMT
They shouldn’t be short on buses, they’ve got a lot of extra Ees there which are the 151’s batch that can’t go on the route. That’s why we always see a significant number of Ee’s on the 35 as well as the 40 and 185. That frees hybrids to other Q routes We are pretty short on buses, it's now an almost daily occurrence for there to be at least 1-2 drivers with no bus available for them. Why is Q so short on buses?
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Post by lj61nwc on Jun 18, 2024 20:18:27 GMT
We are pretty short on buses, it's now an almost daily occurrence for there to be at least 1-2 drivers with no bus available for them. Why is Q so short on buses? I assume they used to rely on the X68 buses for additional support? But now look like they can't touch them. Plus maybe EV range could be a factor
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Post by southlondonbus on Jun 18, 2024 20:21:34 GMT
We are pretty short on buses, it's now an almost daily occurrence for there to be at least 1-2 drivers with no bus available for them. Why is Q so short on buses? Maybe some didn't move across for the 355 yet it still sees DDs. I took one on Saturday so they are still making appearances on the route.
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