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Post by bluepuffy on Jul 25, 2024 19:47:49 GMT
Are there any routes which are currently held back from potentially useful changes because of unfortunate geography? For example the S1: Lavender Fields is minutes from Colliers Wood but it can’t run there because there’s a forest space in the way and no connecting roads, unfortunate because it would’ve been a handy link to have for all the shops Couldn't it just miss it's terminal stop and go via Wilson Ave, Border Gate, (or Turner Avenue) Steers Mead, Lavender Ave then join the 152 on Western Road to Colliers Wood?
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Post by abellion on Jul 25, 2024 19:51:23 GMT
Are there any routes which are currently held back from potentially useful changes because of unfortunate geography? For example the S1: Lavender Fields is minutes from Colliers Wood but it can’t run there because there’s a forest space in the way and no connecting roads, unfortunate because it would’ve been a handy link to have for all the shops Couldn't it just miss it's terminal stop and go via Wilson Ave, Border Gate, (or Turner Avenue) Steers Mead, Lavender Ave then join the 152 on Western Road to Colliers Wood? I believe that there is a width restriction on Hawkes Road which blocks the path to Border Gate or Turner Avenue, so unfortunately not
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Post by mrhk on Jul 25, 2024 19:53:27 GMT
Does anyone know what happened to TGM/Arriva's Heathrow, Garston and High Wycombe bases? Arriva had a lot of potential in west london with all of these garages however they just disappeared. Same with their Borehamwood storage base which ive not heard much about recently Heathrow and Garston closed in 2017 and 2018 respectively, High Wycombe will close alongside Aylesbury on the 27th this week. Why did Heathrow close?
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Post by 18ARustee on Jul 25, 2024 20:11:40 GMT
Sometimes,I do think the London Bus Network should be renationalised. While, I have no issue with TfL customer service, one in particular (Metroline) I find their customer service quite shoddy when you call them.....
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Post by greenboy on Jul 25, 2024 20:21:45 GMT
Sometimes,I do think the London Bus Network should be renationalised. While, I have no issue with TfL customer service, one in particular (Metroline) I find their customer service quite shoddy when you call them..... Out of interest what do you call Metroline customer service about? Shouldn't everything go through TfL, other than maybe lost property enquiries?
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Post by 18ARustee on Jul 25, 2024 21:10:59 GMT
Out of interest what do you call Metroline customer service about? Shouldn't everything go through TfL, other than maybe lost property enquiries?[/quote]
It was regarding whether the buses were on diversion. Nothing came up information wise via TfL. When I called Tfl, they advised to call Metroline, then they too tried calling them. When I finally got through...shoddy customer service.Unhelpful, person who answered was clueless and evasive.
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Post by lj61nwc on Jul 25, 2024 21:37:34 GMT
It was regarding whether the buses were on diversion. Just check for unscheduled diversions networkmanagementcc.blogspot.com/ and any scheduled should appear on TfL status or google maps
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Post by redexpress on Jul 25, 2024 21:46:05 GMT
Heathrow and Garston closed in 2017 and 2018 respectively, High Wycombe will close alongside Aylesbury on the 27th this week. Why did Heathrow close? Arriva didn't have their own depot at Heathrow. The E10 was won by Tellings-Golden Miller while under Arriva ownership. Shortly after the contract started the TGM business was restructured, with the Heathrow operations passing into private ownership under the OFJ name (OFJ was a Heathrow-based operator that had been acquired by TGM in the 2000s). The E10 contract remained with Arriva/TGM; presumably the deal included an agreement for Arriva to continue to house the E10 buses at Heathrow. OFJ were subsequently bought out by Rotala, but the E10 arrangement continued unchanged.
As such the E10 operation was rather remote from the rest of Arriva London. The route was controlled from Dartford; buses were refuelled at local petrol stations, and Garston were involved in the maintenance for a while. Eventually Arriva came to the conclusion that this arrangement was more trouble than it was worth, and surrendered the route to RATP.
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Post by ADH45258 on Jul 25, 2024 23:04:11 GMT
Arriva didn't have their own depot at Heathrow. The E10 was won by Tellings-Golden Miller while under Arriva ownership. Shortly after the contract started the TGM business was restructured, with the Heathrow operations passing into private ownership under the OFJ name (OFJ was a Heathrow-based operator that had been acquired by TGM in the 2000s). The E10 contract remained with Arriva/TGM; presumably the deal included an agreement for Arriva to continue to house the E10 buses at Heathrow. OFJ were subsequently bought out by Rotala, but the E10 arrangement continued unchanged.
As such the E10 operation was rather remote from the rest of Arriva London. The route was controlled from Dartford; buses were refuelled at local petrol stations, and Garston were involved in the maintenance for a while. Eventually Arriva came to the conclusion that this arrangement was more trouble than it was worth, and surrendered the route to RATP.
I wonder if they ever bid for any other routes from HE, while TGM was under Arriva ownership?
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Post by 6HP502C on Jul 26, 2024 11:39:30 GMT
Sometimes,I do think the London Bus Network should be renationalised. While, I have no issue with TfL customer service, one in particular (Metroline) I find their customer service quite shoddy when you call them..... The customer service for London Buses is a bit unusual. There isn’t really a complaints process. You can’t complain directly to the operator as they will just tell you to go through TfL. And complaining to TfL might not get you anywhere unless you get someone with the technical knowledge to understand the complaint properly plus the ability to follow up with the bus company, which doesn’t always happen.
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Post by mrhk on Jul 26, 2024 20:39:36 GMT
Arriva didn't have their own depot at Heathrow. The E10 was won by Tellings-Golden Miller while under Arriva ownership. Shortly after the contract started the TGM business was restructured, with the Heathrow operations passing into private ownership under the OFJ name (OFJ was a Heathrow-based operator that had been acquired by TGM in the 2000s). The E10 contract remained with Arriva/TGM; presumably the deal included an agreement for Arriva to continue to house the E10 buses at Heathrow. OFJ were subsequently bought out by Rotala, but the E10 arrangement continued unchanged.
As such the E10 operation was rather remote from the rest of Arriva London. The route was controlled from Dartford; buses were refuelled at local petrol stations, and Garston were involved in the maintenance for a while. Eventually Arriva came to the conclusion that this arrangement was more trouble than it was worth, and surrendered the route to RATP.
I wonder if they ever bid for any other routes from HE, while TGM was under Arriva ownership? If they did bid for other routes which ones do you think? I reckon they tried to recapture U9 from Abellio. And also what was on the blinds of the buses used on the E10 back then? It cant have just been E10
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Post by greg on Jul 27, 2024 0:13:29 GMT
I wonder if they ever bid for any other routes from HE, while TGM was under Arriva ownership? If they did bid for other routes which ones do you think? I reckon they tried to recapture U9 from Abellio. And also what was on the blinds of the buses used on the E10 back then? It cant have just been E10 Im pretty sure it was the Dartford routes but I would think it should have has blinds for Garston routes aswell considering the vehicles had their maintenance there. Who knows?
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Post by lonmark on Jul 27, 2024 7:40:20 GMT
If they did bid for other routes which ones do you think? I reckon they tried to recapture U9 from Abellio. And also what was on the blinds of the buses used on the E10 back then? It cant have just been E10 Im pretty sure it was the Dartford routes but I would think it should have has blinds for Garston routes aswell considering the vehicles had their maintenance there. Who knows? Click here When DT lost route 162, this dennis dart buses transfer to Heathrow.
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Post by 365tohaveringpark on Jul 27, 2024 13:02:22 GMT
The software is not fit for purpose and is getting worse. Sometimes even if the curtailment is entered it does not show until the next trip, by then it is too late. Some drivers seem to think it is rocket science when it is basic computers of something equivalent from the 1980's. Then when that bus is on the last trip of the day, it does not allow a curtailment to be entered. This doesn't happen 'Sometimes' It seems to happen whenever the 365 is curtailed to 'Collier Row', as usually the 'Parkside Avenue' one is fine and the 365s are for some reason unable to display Collier Row on anything except the blinds, which makes zero sense as there is an ibus programme for 'Collier Row' on the 365 but oh well.
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Post by YX18KVJ (DLE30221) on Jul 27, 2024 13:56:00 GMT
Does anyone know if the 20U/150U is still running?If not, when did they stop?
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