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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2018 7:52:17 GMT
Just wondering if anyone has received the latest Londoner magazine? There was a printing error for the publishing date in the last issue but assume it was due the 31st July. I normally go and buy mine in the LT Museum so don't want a wasted trip. Thanks  |
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Post by Danny on Aug 3, 2018 8:36:28 GMT
Just wondering if anyone has received the latest Londoner magazine? There was a printing error for the publishing date in the last issue but assume it was due the 31st July. I normally go and buy mine in the LT Museum so don't want a wasted trip. Thanks Posted on Facebook that the earliest they expect it to be at the museum is Wednesday. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2018 8:48:42 GMT
Just wondering if anyone has received the latest Londoner magazine? There was a printing error for the publishing date in the last issue but assume it was due the 31st July. I normally go and buy mine in the LT Museum so don't want a wasted trip. Thanks Posted on Facebook that the earliest they expect it to be at the museum is Wednesday. thats great thanks for letting me know. |
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Post by cl54 on Aug 3, 2018 14:03:35 GMT
The 89 is an important route for many people. It only runs at 20 minute intervals for much of the day.
It is currently suffering from three sets of road works between Shooters Hill and Blackheath. Two involve temporary traffic lights and the third involves a diversion via Prince of Wales Road in one direction.
All down to Thames Water. The worst example has been there for several weeks.
Has the time come for Thames Water to meet the cost of delays to bus services? They might pull there finger out and finish the repairs more quickly.
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Post by busaholic on Aug 3, 2018 14:13:35 GMT
The 89 is an important route for many people. It only runs at 20 minute intervals for much of the day. It is currently suffering from three sets of road works between Shooters Hill and Blackheath. Two involve temporary traffic lights and the third involves a diversion via Prince of Wales Road in one direction. All down to Thames Water. The worst example has been there for several weeks. Has the time come for Thames Water to meet the cost of delays to bus services? They might pull there finger out and finish the repairs more quickly. That's another shocker. I lived off Lee Terrace for years, and there was a 10 minute daytime offpeak service as far as Welling, at least, all that time and a 192 over the Lewisham to top of Shooters Hill part, every 20 minutes from memory but could have been 15 for part of the time. Buses were well-loaded most of the time in my experience, particularly on Saturdays, though Lewisham was probably a more desirable shopping destination then. |
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Post by twobellstogo on Aug 3, 2018 15:43:03 GMT
The 89 is an important route for many people. It only runs at 20 minute intervals for much of the day. It is currently suffering from three sets of road works between Shooters Hill and Blackheath. Two involve temporary traffic lights and the third involves a diversion via Prince of Wales Road in one direction. All down to Thames Water. The worst example has been there for several weeks. Has the time come for Thames Water to meet the cost of delays to bus services? They might pull there finger out and finish the repairs more quickly. That's another shocker. I lived off Lee Terrace for years, and there was a 10 minute daytime offpeak service as far as Welling, at least, all that time and a 192 over the Lewisham to top of Shooters Hill part, every 20 minutes from memory but could have been 15 for part of the time. Buses were well-loaded most of the time in my experience, particularly on Saturdays, though Lewisham was probably a more desirable shopping destination then. 89 is generally x12 min, x20 evenings and Sundays. Generally it’s not a route I would trust to get me anywhere quickly. Gaps in between buses are often large. |
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Post by busaholic on Aug 3, 2018 16:59:44 GMT
That's another shocker. I lived off Lee Terrace for years, and there was a 10 minute daytime offpeak service as far as Welling, at least, all that time and a 192 over the Lewisham to top of Shooters Hill part, every 20 minutes from memory but could have been 15 for part of the time. Buses were well-loaded most of the time in my experience, particularly on Saturdays, though Lewisham was probably a more desirable shopping destination then. 89 is generally x12 min, x20 evenings and Sundays. Generally it’s not a route I would trust to get me anywhere quickly. Gaps in between buses are often large. In fairness, there were often large gaps in service. The worst gaps, though, came in the days when it worked from Lewisham to Eltham via Bexleyheath. I lived in Eltham then and sightings of 89s, particularly NX allocated ones, could be almost (but not quite!) as rare as sightings of the 108A, but the latter did have the excuse of having to brave the Blackwall Tunnel. |
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Post by redbus on Aug 3, 2018 19:56:45 GMT
The 89 is an important route for many people. It only runs at 20 minute intervals for much of the day. It is currently suffering from three sets of road works between Shooters Hill and Blackheath. Two involve temporary traffic lights and the third involves a diversion via Prince of Wales Road in one direction. All down to Thames Water. The worst example has been there for several weeks. Has the time come for Thames Water to meet the cost of delays to bus services? They might pull there finger out and finish the repairs more quickly. It's not just the 89, it's lots of places. We all understand work needs to be done and leaks repaired, but the utilities seem not care a jot about the impact of their works. Multiple sets of temporary lights close to each other which are uncoordinated, 4-way signals when 3-way would work are typical. There is a lane rental system but the amount charged is the equivalent of pocket money to the utilities. I think it would be an excellent idea if the lane rental fees were raised to level that would pay for any extra resources needed to maintain bus services, and the bus arm of TfL to receive the income. Instead of frequencies reduced due to works, how about extra buses to maintain frequency paid for by whoever is undertaking the works. You might find that all of a sudden the works don't take quite so long to complete. Rant over! |
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Post by snoggle on Aug 3, 2018 20:12:43 GMT
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Post by Frenzie on Aug 6, 2018 0:33:33 GMT
The X26 timetable really is a shambles. I constantly find myself, on an X26, waiting at bus stop for 3-6 minutes because it is too early. The driver has to repeatedly play the ‘bus will wait for a short time’ at every stop, causing passengers to get angry & frustrated, wondering why we’re waiting at certain bus stops all the time. I really do think, at particular times of the day, TfL need to shorten some times between stops, especially during the week when they leave gaps of 10 minutes for example to travel between Cheam and North Cheam, or 12 minutes for Sutton and Carshalton. Has anyone else experienced this before on the X26? I totally agree. I sometimes see a bus waiting for about 10 minutes at Hatton Cross station which is obviously a cunning way for GAL to ensure all of their buses are on time. Many other companies seem to be doing the same particularly Metroline who have ruined the 482 during the day (however early mornings and late evenings are superb). |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2018 6:10:05 GMT
The X26 timetable really is a shambles. I constantly find myself, on an X26, waiting at bus stop for 3-6 minutes because it is too early. The driver has to repeatedly play the ‘bus will wait for a short time’ at every stop, causing passengers to get angry & frustrated, wondering why we’re waiting at certain bus stops all the time. I really do think, at particular times of the day, TfL need to shorten some times between stops, especially during the week when they leave gaps of 10 minutes for example to travel between Cheam and North Cheam, or 12 minutes for Sutton and Carshalton. Has anyone else experienced this before on the X26? I totally agree. I sometimes see a bus waiting for about 10 minutes at Hatton Cross station which is obviously a cunning way for GAL to ensure all of their buses are on time. Many other companies seem to be doing the same particularly Metroline who have ruined the 482 during the day (however early mornings and late evenings are superb). Yes but at the same time it is summer, so traffic is generally lighter. Some operators do bring in summer timetables but the X26 is a hard one to do as it would be nearly impossible to predict traffic levels on the route as it goes through so many hotspots like Worcester Park, Kingston and Teddington. Trust me come winter, when the schools are back those same outraged passengers will be just as upset because of the traffic. |
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Post by sid on Aug 6, 2018 6:23:15 GMT
I totally agree. I sometimes see a bus waiting for about 10 minutes at Hatton Cross station which is obviously a cunning way for GAL to ensure all of their buses are on time. Many other companies seem to be doing the same particularly Metroline who have ruined the 482 during the day (however early mornings and late evenings are superb). Yes but at the same time it is summer, so traffic is generally lighter. Some operators do bring in summer timetables but the X26 is a hard one to do as it would be nearly impossible to predict traffic levels on the route as it goes through so many hotspots like Worcester Park, Kingston and Teddington. Trust me come winter, when the schools are back those same outraged passengers will be just as upset because of the traffic. By then they'll probably have given up using the X26, when I read things like this I don't wonder bus usage is in decline. Just draw up a summer timetable with less running time. |
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Post by galwhv69 on Aug 7, 2018 13:19:23 GMT
I was just arriving at Tooting station on DW114 where I got off but WSD3 was at the stop with hazards on(presumably stand was full).Driver tooted the horn but WSD3 didn't move although it had plenty of space to move and still be able to pull out.This resulted in half of the back door being ostructed by a van parked just before the stop and having to awkwardly alight.
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Post by sid on Aug 7, 2018 13:49:29 GMT
I was just arriving at Tooting station on DW114 where I got off but WSD3 was at the stop with hazards on(presumably stand was full).Driver tooted the horn but WSD3 didn't move although it had plenty of space to move and still be able to pull out.This resulted in half of the back door being ostructed by a van parked just before the stop and having to awkwardly alight. Wouldn't it have been easier to exit through the front door? Problems like this happen at a lot of stands, drivers get out for a smoke or use their phone and don't pull forward. |
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Post by galwhv69 on Aug 7, 2018 14:08:34 GMT
I was just arriving at Tooting station on DW114 where I got off but WSD3 was at the stop with hazards on(presumably stand was full).Driver tooted the horn but WSD3 didn't move although it had plenty of space to move and still be able to pull out.This resulted in half of the back door being ostructed by a van parked just before the stop and having to awkwardly alight. Wouldn't it have been easier to exit through the front door? Problems like this happen at a lot of stands, drivers get out for a smoke or use their phone and don't pull forward. Bus was crowded |
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