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Post by COBO on Oct 22, 2009 5:42:12 GMT
Should the BNP be allowed to be on Question Time?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2009 8:34:56 GMT
Should the BNP be allowed to be on Question? If you are going to ask a question like this, AT LEAST get the name of the programme right!  |
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Post by COBO on Oct 22, 2009 8:40:19 GMT
Should the BNP be allowed to be on Question? If you are going to ask a question like this, AT LEAST get the name of the programme right! Oops thanks Big Hat for correcting me. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2009 11:10:59 GMT
I think they should be allowed on Question Time.
They are a racist party, and i would never vote for them, and I certainly dont respect them!
But, they have a right to be on Question Time, and every party does. Also, seeing as 1 million people vote for them (according to BBC) they represent a large amount of British people.
I think appearing on Question Time will be a good thing, as it could highlight how racist they are, and maybe (hopefully) put people off voting for them. On the other hand, it could advertise the party and get even more supporters (like what happened in France, according to the BBC).
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Post by vjaska on Oct 22, 2009 13:46:46 GMT
Do remember that 1 million is a small percentage of the U.K. I don't know the exact population figures but I'm sure its around or over 60 million. The only reason that the BNP gained two MEP's was because Labour voters shunned the polls and stayed at home thus allowing the BNP to capitalise. Had this not happened, the BNP would of been ignored and wouldn't of gained the small foothold that they did.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2009 15:16:49 GMT
Do remember that 1 million is a small percentage of the U.K. I don't know the exact population figures but I'm sure its around or over 60 million. The only reason that the BNP gained two MEP's was because Labour voters shunned the polls and stayed at home thus allowing the BNP to capitalise. Had this not happened, the BNP would of been ignored and wouldn't of gained the small foothold that they did. The population is just over 60m ... but the number of people that are eligeable to vote will be lower. Turn out in elections is normally on 30-40% or the eligeable so roughly 25m people would turn out to vote in your typicla election. So 1m represent about 4% of those that voted ... a percentage whose views you may not agree with, but as previously said has the right to be heard just as much as any other political party ... as long as the views are presented in a controlled professional manner (which is hard for any politician) |
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Post by vjaska on Oct 22, 2009 23:49:27 GMT
Do remember that 1 million is a small percentage of the U.K. I don't know the exact population figures but I'm sure its around or over 60 million. The only reason that the BNP gained two MEP's was because Labour voters shunned the polls and stayed at home thus allowing the BNP to capitalise. Had this not happened, the BNP would of been ignored and wouldn't of gained the small foothold that they did. The population is just over 60m ... but the number of people that are eligeable to vote will be lower. Turn out in elections is normally on 30-40% or the eligeable so roughly 25m people would turn out to vote in your typical election. So 1m represent about 4% of those that voted ... a percentage whose views you may not agree with, but as previously said has the right to be heard just as much as any other political party ... as long as the views are presented in a controlled professional manner (which is hard for any politician) Definitely as we live in a democracy with the right of freedom of speech, no matter how loathsome the views of the individual(s) are. Based on his performance tonight, he was poor (thankfully) and the majority of the audience didn't not enjoy his thoughts and views and also in the way he couldn't explain the many quotations he has made. Hopefully, this puts people off in taking up his views and marking an X against BNP when we finally come to a general election. |
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Post by mre81 on Oct 23, 2009 0:04:14 GMT
Agreed. Thankfully his appearance showed him to be a ridiculous man with some absurd and quite frankly farcical ideas. Unsuprisingly he seemed very nervous and was unable to explain and express himself in a coherent manner. I would like to think that a large number of persons who have voted for him in the past are now seriously questioning their reasoning.
His thoughts about idigenous peoples nearly made me laugh out loud. If we followed this policy to its ultimate aim, we'd only have a few hundred people left in this country, and he would almost certainly not be one of them. This sounds suspiciously like the Aryan policy of the Nazi's and has subsequently exposed himself and his party for exactly they are.
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Post by vjaska on Oct 23, 2009 0:43:24 GMT
Agreed. Thankfully his appearance showed him to be a ridiculous man with some absurd and quite frankly farcical ideas. Unsuprisingly he seemed very nervous and was unable to explain and express himself in a coherent manner. I would like to think that a large number of persons who have voted for him in the past are now seriously questioning their reasoning. His thoughts about idigenous peoples nearly made me laugh out loud. If we followed this policy to its ultimate aim, we'd only have a few hundred people left in this country, and he would almost certainly not be one of them. This sounds suspiciously like the Aryan policy of the Nazi's and has subsequently exposed himself and his party for exactly they are. I know I wouldn't be one of the 100 left as I've four countries in my blood but if you met me, you wouldn't think so. I mean take a look at my surname ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2009 8:09:23 GMT
I saw question time last night, and it has made me dislike the BNP even more than I did before.
I must admit, I dont think Nick Griffin got to say enough. Nearly every time he started saying something, he was immediatly interrupted. Also, i cant understand why nearly all the show was taken up with BNP issues, rather than talking about the Royal Mail, for example.
The person I agree with most was Baroness Warsi (conservative), who said that the current governent has failed with immigration and the integration of communities, and I certainly agree with this. Labour has made the country anxious about the situations, which is why so many people (who might not have been racist) voted BNP, and I cant really blame them (even if it was quite an ignorant thing to do).
Anyway, I hope this programme highlighted the fact that immigration and community integration etc needs drastic work!, and also highlighted that voting BNP will NOT sort the problem out.!!
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Post by COBO on Oct 23, 2009 10:26:52 GMT
I'm sorry to say this but I think that Question time was just a playing card for the BNP in the voting game because of all the attacks he received and the little Nick could speak has made people feel sympathetic towards him and boom it means more voters for the BNP.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2009 10:54:43 GMT
I'm sorry to say this but I think that Question time was just a playing card for the BNP in the voting game because of all the attacks he received and the little Nick could speak has made people feel sympathetic towards him and boom it means more voters for the BNP. You have a point here. You could tell the BBC were reluctant to let the BNP on, and I think they should have just treated him as a 'normal' guest (so he didnt look victimised, or whatever). And as he hardly got a word through, some people would maybe be sympathetic towards him. Also, the whole programme shouldnt have just been about BNP issues etc... |
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Post by COBO on Oct 23, 2009 13:20:15 GMT
I'm sorry to say this but I think that Question time was just a playing card for the BNP in the voting game because of all the attacks he received and the little Nick could speak has made people feel sympathetic towards him and boom it means more voters for the BNP. You have a point here. You could tell the BBC were reluctant to let the BNP on, and I think they should have just treated him as a 'normal' guest (so he didnt look victimised, or whatever). And as he hardly got a word through, some people would maybe be sympathetic towards him. Also, the whole programme shouldnt have just been about BNP issues etc... I totally agree with you there. |
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Post by londonbusboy on Oct 23, 2009 17:05:12 GMT
Yes the BNP should be on question time!!
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Post by vjaska on Oct 23, 2009 17:05:55 GMT
But if they wern't allowed on, then we haven't got a democracy then. I'm undecided on whether they were right or wrong to allow him on the show. I'm just glad that he was embarrassed and was shown up as the racist, extremist, biggot that he really is.
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