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Post by paulo on Feb 21, 2020 6:54:34 GMT
Next route transfers from EB to TV 25 April 2020 406 (Quality Line) - Operated by London United 418 (Quality Line) - Operated by London United with minor timetable amendments 465 (Quality Line) - Operated by London United From SCC website I am not convinced that TV physically has room Recently gained the K5 Already due to gain K1 on 27 June (about 16 buses) The 406 and 418 (about 14 buses) The 465 is another 7 buses Depending on spares that’s a gain of about another 40 buses I wonder if they will loose something to FW (maybe VH operated 85 or KU services) There is clearly a driver shortage at both EB and TV, because RATP have been running radio ads all week on local radio station Jackie, to recruit and train drivers living near both of those garages 71 or 85 to make the move to FW I would guess.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2020 8:51:42 GMT
Next route transfers from EB to TV 25 April 2020 406 (Quality Line) - Operated by London United 418 (Quality Line) - Operated by London United with minor timetable amendments 465 (Quality Line) - Operated by London United From SCC website I am not convinced that TV physically has room Recently gained the K5 Already due to gain K1 on 27 June (about 16 buses) The 406 and 418 (about 14 buses) The 465 is another 7 buses Depending on spares that’s a gain of about another 40 buses I wonder if they will loose something to FW (maybe VH operated 85 or KU services) There is clearly a driver shortage at both EB and TV, because RATP have been running radio ads all week on local radio station Jackie, to recruit and train drivers living near both of those garages I heard from a reliable source a few months ago that Go Ahead poached (?) several ex QL drivers. Plus there has been union disquiet at EB since RATP refused to acknowledge a different union. Also heard TF are struggling losing as much as 10% mileage due to lack of staff , and that was after the 267 gain.
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Post by greenboy on Feb 21, 2020 9:35:17 GMT
I am not convinced that TV physically has room Recently gained the K5 Already due to gain K1 on 27 June (about 16 buses) The 406 and 418 (about 14 buses) The 465 is another 7 buses Depending on spares that’s a gain of about another 40 buses I wonder if they will loose something to FW (maybe VH operated 85 or KU services) There is clearly a driver shortage at both EB and TV, because RATP have been running radio ads all week on local radio station Jackie, to recruit and train drivers living near both of those garages I heard from a reliable source a few months ago that Go Ahead poached (?) several ex QL drivers. Plus there has been union disquiet at EB since RATP refused to acknowledge a different union. Also heard TF are struggling losing as much as 10% mileage due to lack of staff , and that was after the 267 gain. It's always been more difficult to recruit and retain staff in West London due to the Heathrow factor and I think EB have been struggling on staff numbers for a while now.
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Post by WSD3 on Feb 21, 2020 11:37:22 GMT
What is the plan for the ex 326's DE's?
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Post by WSD3 on Feb 21, 2020 11:42:37 GMT
So lets clear up some thing. The ex 94 VHs have gone to V for the 306. So what's happening with the ex 306 VHs? move back to FW/EB FW- VH45316/7 EB- VH45156-63/VH45184-87 for the 406
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Post by southlondonbus on Feb 21, 2020 12:29:16 GMT
It looks like for the 406 and 681.
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Post by rif153 on Feb 21, 2020 12:40:21 GMT
I am not convinced that TV physically has room Recently gained the K5 Already due to gain K1 on 27 June (about 16 buses) The 406 and 418 (about 14 buses) The 465 is another 7 buses Depending on spares that’s a gain of about another 40 buses I wonder if they will loose something to FW (maybe VH operated 85 or KU services) There is clearly a driver shortage at both EB and TV, because RATP have been running radio ads all week on local radio station Jackie, to recruit and train drivers living near both of those garages 71 or 85 to make the move to FW I would guess. I would imagine only the 71 will return to FW, can't really see the 85 making the move but who knows. The 71 and 306 have similar PVRs so I wouldn't rule out the 71 inheriting some VHs, but of course dependent on other routes like the 65 having enough, however I imagine that FW's DD fleet will eventually fully consist of VHs, but will be interesting to see how that pans out as another option could also be when the 285 moves to FW and passes to Abellio the VHs remain at FW for the 281.
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Post by southlondonbus on Feb 21, 2020 12:56:17 GMT
Basically the 71 and 281 plus the 65 if it missed out on a contract extension need new buses next year. Same with the H32. So depends on numbers on paper but it's likely the ed 94 VHs plus the 285s VHs will factor into bids/awards to LU. Not so sure if the ones from the 139 will be reused but there is no reason not to and really make it an existing bid round.
If the 65 does get an extension that we havant heard about yet then I doubt a VH will be allocated to it and it will remain SP till the end as they have been upgraded to euro 6.
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Post by E279 on Feb 21, 2020 14:01:52 GMT
So lets clear up some thing. The ex 94 VHs have gone to V for the 306. So what's happening with the ex 306 VHs? move back to FW/EB FW- VH45316/7 EB- VH45156-63/VH45184-87 for the 406 Has it been confirmed the 406 is getting VHs?
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Post by WSD3 on Feb 21, 2020 14:06:27 GMT
move back to FW/EB FW- VH45316/7 EB- VH45156-63/VH45184-87 for the 406 Has it been confirmed the 406 is getting VHs? I'm guessing
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Post by E279 on Feb 21, 2020 14:14:35 GMT
Has it been confirmed the 406 is getting VHs? I'm guessing I don’t think the 306s VHs are being replaced. Busdryver said a few transferred while E3 refurbs are happening and for the 19 reg to go back to FW. RATP VH allocations are extremely messy right now so probably best to see how it plays out.
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Post by LondonNorthern on Feb 21, 2020 14:21:49 GMT
move back to FW/EB FW- VH45316/7 EB- VH45156-63/VH45184-87 for the 406 Has it been confirmed the 406 is getting VHs? I personally thought the 406 would get ADHs. The E3 requires 22 ADHs which I would presume are ADH45003-45005 & 45007-45025 with 45026-45037 available. These could go and replace the 10 07 reg on the 406 and the other 2 could then replace the SN11BVG/BVH. Only an idea though.
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Post by snowman on Feb 21, 2020 16:05:42 GMT
What is the plan for the ex 326's DE's? Not aware of anything official, but my understanding is disposal Virtually 11.5 years old, Had a fairly tough life, 7 years on 24 hour 285, so probably equivalent to a 13 year old bus (without night work)
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Post by E279 on Feb 21, 2020 16:18:39 GMT
What is the plan for the ex 326's DE's? Not aware of anything official, but my understanding is disposal Virtually 11.5 years old, Had a fairly tough life, 7 years on 24 hour 285, so probably equivalent to a 13 year old bus (without night work) Yeah I cannot see them going elsewhere, they will be getting onto 12 years old by the time they're all withdrawn, too old for another contract and aside form the odd 07 reg DE there isn't anything older than them 10.2m E200 wise.
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Post by southlondonbus on Feb 21, 2020 17:11:02 GMT
I wonder if the 306 may convert/be retained with the ADHs to match the E3 at V with the rest being LTs.
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