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Post by sleckdeck on Jun 16, 2022 11:30:32 GMT
85 is definitely reasonable, could see the VH’s being moved over to convert another route - possibly the 411 as that gets very busy or perhaps for attempting to win the 237, 120 or 222 I don't see many decker conversions at this time and certainly not for the 411. I expect they will be put to use sooner than mid 2024 and as snowman says, likely at a garage already kitted out Perhaps the VH’s could convert route H98 and be used for a contract retain? And maybe the BCE’s could be used to award route 237 as the garage has charging facilities (or maybe full). WK is another option too.
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Post by abc on Jun 16, 2022 12:19:10 GMT
A few minutes ago, I was on a southbound 13. We zoomed past Marble Arch and when we arrived at Dorchester Hotel, the driver played the this bus terminates here message. Heathen explained that although the bus terminates at the next stop, he wanted to give us enough distance so we can take the next bus to continue our journey to Victoria. Then a 414 stopped behind us. The 16 that was coming next, seeing 2 buses at the stop stayed at the middle lane. The 13 driver seeing this jumped in the street and waved to the 16. When the doors opened, he described the situation to the other driver. I wanted to thank him for doing anything in his power to provide an exceptional customer service.
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Post by gazza76 on Jun 16, 2022 13:06:16 GMT
Saw a bce type training at edgware yesterday guessing getting ready for the electric on the 125
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Post by aaron1 on Jun 16, 2022 16:06:08 GMT
today and yesterday I was on 266 to college and one of the e400 ADH415050 is making a squeaking noise when it stop or moving it maybe the brakes that doing it
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Post by titan1mike on Jun 20, 2022 7:35:09 GMT
Can anyone tell mw the official allocation of the X140 please?
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Post by titan1mike on Jun 20, 2022 9:22:29 GMT
Can anyone tell mw the official allocation of the X140 please? BCE47100-10, along with crosslinks from the VHRs. Thank you. Another quick question, what are the the official allocations of the 65 and 281? I am on a rare day out bus spotting hence all the questions.
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Post by busoccultation on Jun 20, 2022 9:27:12 GMT
BCE47100-10, along with crosslinks from the VHRs. Thank you. Another quick question, what are the the official allocations of the 65 and 281? I am on a rare day out bus spotting hence all the questions. BCE47030-51 is allocated to the 281, BCE47052/53 is the 371 DD part allocation and BCE47054-83 is allocated to the 65, of course being in mind some of them are still at SO and BCE47139-156 are currently at FW until the 125 starts using the electrics.
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Post by sleckdeck on Jun 20, 2022 11:17:41 GMT
BCE47100-10, along with crosslinks from the VHRs. Thank you. Another quick question, what are the the official allocations of the 65 and 281? I am on a rare day out bus spotting hence all the questions. BCE’s, use LVF if you want to see VH’s appear. They are more common on the 281 as they cross link with the 681 (as well as the rare SP’s). VH’s on the 65 tend to appear at around 11pm, but use LVF as BCEs still run at the time.
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Post by Frenzie on Jun 20, 2022 20:12:38 GMT
Thank you. Another quick question, what are the the official allocations of the 65 and 281? I am on a rare day out bus spotting hence all the questions. BCE47030-51 is allocated to the 281, BCE47052/53 is the 371 DD part allocation and BCE47054-83 is allocated to the 65, of course being in mind some of them are still at SO and BCE47139-156 are currently at FW until the 125 starts using the electrics. I think FW currently have around 4 extra BCEs than allocated. They should have 54 but currently have 58. It may be to release BEs to the 33 which in turn allows the K3 to run with the 33s DEs while the 235 awaits electric charging facilities at WK.
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Post by paulo on Jun 20, 2022 20:27:13 GMT
BCE47030-51 is allocated to the 281, BCE47052/53 is the 371 DD part allocation and BCE47054-83 is allocated to the 65, of course being in mind some of them are still at SO and BCE47139-156 are currently at FW until the 125 starts using the electrics. I think FW currently have around 4 extra BCEs than allocated. They should have 54 but currently have 58. It may be to release BEs to the 33 which in turn allows the K3 to run with the 33s DEs while the 235 awaits electric charging facilities at WK. I think they may also possibly be short of a couple of VHs from the 85 allocation. It would seem the priority now (non electric) is to get the remaining early VHs from the VH45124-152 batch into TV for the 406. I’m not sure how many it needs now as the additional school routes obtained in the past years have added to the requirement. VH45162-164 have move in but I believe this is temporary to allow returbs of others. In time they will find their way to Fulwell. Also heard that the H98 is likely to receive the VH batch from the H91 which is currently VH45180-194. ADEs 40308/9/10 are now not going to refurbed as planned and are likely to leave the fleet at some point. There will be lots of spare vehicles around with the service reductions and likely LT shuffle to keep that fleet fully allocated. Next year could be quite dull as a consequence.
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Post by snowman on Jun 20, 2022 20:29:01 GMT
Looks like next batch of SPs might have started to be withdrawn
SP 40170, 40171 haven’t been used for over a week SP 40184, 40191 haven’t been used for ages, are these dead or planned to re-enter service
For single decks, DE 20094, 20096, 20108 seem to out of use too
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Post by Frenzie on Jun 20, 2022 21:53:56 GMT
I think FW currently have around 4 extra BCEs than allocated. They should have 54 but currently have 58. It may be to release BEs to the 33 which in turn allows the K3 to run with the 33s DEs while the 235 awaits electric charging facilities at WK. I think they may also possibly be short of a couple of VHs from the 85 allocation. It would seem the priority now (non electric) is to get the remaining early VHs from the VH45124-152 batch into TV for the 406. I’m not sure how many it needs now as the additional school routes obtained in the past years have added to the requirement. VH45162-164 have move in but I believe this is temporary to allow returbs of others. In time they will find their way to Fulwell. Also heard that the H98 is likely to receive the VH batch from the H91 which is currently VH45180-194. ADEs 40308/9/10 are now not going to refurbed as planned and are likely to leave the fleet at some point. There will be lots of spare vehicles around with the service reductions and likely LT shuffle to keep that fleet fully allocated. Next year could be quite dull as a consequence. FW currently have 26 VHs for a PVR of 22 (85, 481 and 681). The move of 45162-164 into TV is curious as I did think they were allocated to the 85 but your likely correct in thinking it’s for refurbishment of 45124-144 (71 and 406 buses). That leaves VH45153-155 eventually without a route so I presume general spares at FW, but of course are now covering 45162-164. These could perhaps end up allocated to the TV school routes?
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Post by paulo on Jun 20, 2022 22:50:12 GMT
I think they may also possibly be short of a couple of VHs from the 85 allocation. It would seem the priority now (non electric) is to get the remaining early VHs from the VH45124-152 batch into TV for the 406. I’m not sure how many it needs now as the additional school routes obtained in the past years have added to the requirement. VH45162-164 have move in but I believe this is temporary to allow returbs of others. In time they will find their way to Fulwell. Also heard that the H98 is likely to receive the VH batch from the H91 which is currently VH45180-194. ADEs 40308/9/10 are now not going to refurbed as planned and are likely to leave the fleet at some point. There will be lots of spare vehicles around with the service reductions and likely LT shuffle to keep that fleet fully allocated. Next year could be quite dull as a consequence. FW currently have 26 VHs for a PVR of 22 (85, 481 and 681). The move of 45162-164 into TV is curious as I did think they were allocated to the 85 but your likely correct in thinking it’s for refurbishment of 45124-144 (71 and 406 buses). That leaves VH45153-155 eventually without a route so I presume general spares at FW, but of course are now covering 45162-164. These could perhaps end up allocated to the TV school routes? the majority of the TV school routes should be allocated VHs but are not presently. I think 4 of the 8 acquired ADEs from TT will stay but presumably the other 4 move to Hounslow for the 696/697. Doesn’t another VH become spare (on paper) when the 671 goes to Abellio? I suspect those troublesome ADHs at V are looking vulnerable now. Always a good 4 or 5 off the road for weeks on end.
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Post by paulo on Jun 20, 2022 22:54:32 GMT
Looks like next batch of SPs might have started to be withdrawn SP 40170, 40171 haven’t been used for over a week SP 40184, 40191 haven’t been used for ages, are these dead or planned to re-enter service For single decks, DE 20094, 20096, 20108 seem to out of use too 191 will certainly be returning, AV like to take a while sometimes SP49 only just re-entered service today after 2 months off road. DE20096 might have died. It’s been off the road since last September and with a few more DEs due to be withdrawn soon it may well have bitten the dust. Perhaps the same for SP40184 which last saw service in Novermber 21. Any news on the Fire victim ADH45031? I would have thought it’s lurking at WK and possibly being stripped for spares rather than being returned to service.
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Post by vjaska on Jun 21, 2022 0:52:15 GMT
I think they may also possibly be short of a couple of VHs from the 85 allocation. It would seem the priority now (non electric) is to get the remaining early VHs from the VH45124-152 batch into TV for the 406. I’m not sure how many it needs now as the additional school routes obtained in the past years have added to the requirement. VH45162-164 have move in but I believe this is temporary to allow returbs of others. In time they will find their way to Fulwell. Also heard that the H98 is likely to receive the VH batch from the H91 which is currently VH45180-194. ADEs 40308/9/10 are now not going to refurbed as planned and are likely to leave the fleet at some point. There will be lots of spare vehicles around with the service reductions and likely LT shuffle to keep that fleet fully allocated. Next year could be quite dull as a consequence. FW currently have 26 VHs for a PVR of 22 (85, 481 and 681). The move of 45162-164 into TV is curious as I did think they were allocated to the 85 but your likely correct in thinking it’s for refurbishment of 45124-144 (71 and 406 buses). That leaves VH45153-155 eventually without a route so I presume general spares at FW, but of course are now covering 45162-164. These could perhaps end up allocated to the TV school routes? The 406 already has it's own batch of VH's being VH45310-45317, I presume your referring to the 418 instead? VH45124-144 should convert the 71 & 418 once finished elsewhere and then I'd imagine VH45153-155 could end up at TV themselves on the 613, 655 & 662 or they stay put at FW and VH45162-164 are used for those school routes with ADE's staying on the 293 DD journey and 467
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