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Post by wirewiper on Nov 22, 2024 9:33:27 GMT
Volvo BZL - 3200mm (10’6”) Which structure along the K5 is 9’6” ? Wow the BZL easily looks as tall as the Kite so I’m surprised it’s only 10’6. So the BZL solves the 272, 393 and K3 then. (Well if a bus is allowed to be the *exact* height to enable it to scrape under the 272’s bridge, literally! 😂) The 170 really will get sticky then, no wonder they’ve pushed it on to 2030 to procrastinate the problem I had a look at the Lombard Road arches on Google Streetview. The problem doesn't look insurmountable although it will need alterations to the road layout. Probably single alternate line traffic going under the centre section of the larger arch. |
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Post by southlondon413 on Nov 22, 2024 9:52:19 GMT
Wow the BZL easily looks as tall as the Kite so I’m surprised it’s only 10’6. So the BZL solves the 272, 393 and K3 then. (Well if a bus is allowed to be the *exact* height to enable it to scrape under the 272’s bridge, literally! 😂) The 170 really will get sticky then, no wonder they’ve pushed it on to 2030 to procrastinate the problem I had a look at the Lombard Road arches on Google Streetview. The problem doesn't look insurmountable although it will need alterations to the road layout. Probably single alternate line traffic going under the centre section of the larger arch. That doesn’t seem workable to me, it’s a very busy through area with a lot of traffic heavy businesses. The best long term solution would be to rebuild the bridge as a single span and lower the road to accommodate taller buses and potentially double deckers. Honestly 60 years ago they wouldn’t have given it a second thought and would just do it. There are numerous examples across London where this was done in the past. |
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Post by mark on Nov 22, 2024 10:00:12 GMT
To be honest I think the roadworks have got significantly worse in the last couple of years. The worst offender has to be Centrica which is currently digging up every road in the country (or so it seems) to install lined gas pipes for the hydrogen supply that will almost certainly never happen. At one stage this summer there were four sets of temporary traffic lights between Feltham Station and Staines town centre plus a total closure of Chertsey Road in Lower Feltham. Suffice it to say the timetable on the 117 and 235 collapsed. Metroline had to deal with the Feltham bridge closure which definitely caused more disruption. …as did London United and Abellio although to be honest the impact if the closure was nowhere near as bad as I had feared. The difference now is the cumulative effect of multiple sets of roadworks. In some cases the tailback from TTL set A blocks the exit from the next set of traffic lights and quickly brings the whole area to a standstill. |
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Post by greenboy on Nov 22, 2024 10:11:21 GMT
Wow the BZL easily looks as tall as the Kite so I’m surprised it’s only 10’6. So the BZL solves the 272, 393 and K3 then. (Well if a bus is allowed to be the *exact* height to enable it to scrape under the 272’s bridge, literally! 😂) The 170 really will get sticky then, no wonder they’ve pushed it on to 2030 to procrastinate the problem I had a look at the Lombard Road arches on Google Streetview. The problem doesn't look insurmountable although it will need alterations to the road layout. Probably single alternate line traffic going under the centre section of the larger arch. I think that's out of the question and I don't think the bridge is going to be altered or the road level lowered just to accommodate a certain type of bus, the onus is on TfL and the operator to find a suitable bus. |
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Post by southlondon413 on Nov 22, 2024 10:32:19 GMT
I had a look at the Lombard Road arches on Google Streetview. The problem doesn't look insurmountable although it will need alterations to the road layout. Probably single alternate line traffic going under the centre section of the larger arch. I think that's out of the question and I don't think the bridge is going to be altered or the road level lowered just to accommodate a certain type of bus, the onus is on TfL and the operator to find a suitable bus. The fact is single deckers are getting taller and taller to fit in EV equipment, the latest Wright vehicles are absolute beasts. What’s the solution if not to resolve the actual issue which the low bridge height? |
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Post by SILENCED on Nov 22, 2024 10:43:03 GMT
I think that's out of the question and I don't think the bridge is going to be altered or the road level lowered just to accommodate a certain type of bus, the onus is on TfL and the operator to find a suitable bus. The fact is single deckers are getting taller and taller to fit in EV equipment, the latest Wright vehicles are absolute beasts. What’s the solution if not to resolve the actual issue which the low bridge height? Reroute to avoid bridge |
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Post by southlondon413 on Nov 22, 2024 10:44:57 GMT
The fact is single deckers are getting taller and taller to fit in EV equipment, the latest Wright vehicles are absolute beasts. What’s the solution if not to resolve the actual issue which the low bridge height? Reroute Just rerouting the 170 wouldn’t solve that as the Battersea Village stretch is very busy. A long term permanent resolution is needed. |
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Post by mark on Nov 22, 2024 10:53:04 GMT
The fact is single deckers are getting taller and taller to fit in EV equipment, the latest Wright vehicles are absolute beasts. What’s the solution if not to resolve the actual issue which the low bridge height? Reroute to avoid bridge Char-a-banc? |
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Post by i3lu on Nov 22, 2024 11:39:38 GMT
Any reason why 3 72 reg BCE's are on the 183? Two are allocated to the 183 and have been since the introduction of the SL10. Not sure about the third one BCE47104 and 121 are missing and some ADHs I believe are still in the refurbishment process. So maybe it's a cover as X has a lot of extra electrics. |
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Post by gazza76 on Nov 22, 2024 11:42:18 GMT
Isn't one for the 125 increase please correct if I am wrong
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Post by i3lu on Nov 22, 2024 12:20:42 GMT
The 125 is based at BT. Th 183 is based at SO.
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Post by matthieu1221 on Nov 22, 2024 15:35:31 GMT
I think that's out of the question and I don't think the bridge is going to be altered or the road level lowered just to accommodate a certain type of bus, the onus is on TfL and the operator to find a suitable bus. The fact is single deckers are getting taller and taller to fit in EV equipment, the latest Wright vehicles are absolute beasts. What’s the solution if not to resolve the actual issue which the low bridge height? With the amount of developments going up there I'm sure there's some S106 money which could be used at some point to lower the road level at some point. |
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Post by PGAT on Nov 22, 2024 15:46:01 GMT
The fact is single deckers are getting taller and taller to fit in EV equipment, the latest Wright vehicles are absolute beasts. What’s the solution if not to resolve the actual issue which the low bridge height? With the amount of developments going up there I'm sure there's some S106 money which could be used at some point to lower the road level at some point. I know they are planning to do that around Old Oak Common with the 228 but I don’t think this is that high on the agenda |
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Post by superloopsl7 on Nov 22, 2024 15:52:10 GMT
ADH45073 has a full wrap for Arne
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Post by TB123 on Nov 22, 2024 15:54:49 GMT
With the amount of developments going up there I'm sure there's some S106 money which could be used at some point to lower the road level at some point. I know they are planning to do that around Old Oak Common with the 228 but I don’t think this is that high on the agenda It’s on the agenda and happening, but it isn’t going to be done until closer to the time when OOC is due to open around 2030. |
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