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Post by snowman on Jul 28, 2010 14:53:48 GMT
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Post by Volvo on Jul 28, 2010 18:56:37 GMT
So approx 449lbs/ft.
The cummins engine would have done much better imo.
The MAN engine seems a bit weak also.
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Post by vjaska on Jul 28, 2010 23:03:07 GMT
The N270UD (270bhp) Scania's at Brighton aren't much faster and only slightly more comfortable due to the Esteban seating. who knows vj, they should be because they probably are lighter thwn londons ones and have 40bhp more. Yeah but they were sluggish uphill compared to the nippy B10BLE I went on ;D  |
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Post by Volvo on Jul 28, 2010 23:06:41 GMT
Oh dear, i would have thought with such a big engine and a fairly decent amount of power compared to alot londons buses.
They would have done well with hills as scania buses have a good amount of torque also.
Thanks for letting me know though.
Out of intrest what body was the B10 on and how much bhp does it have if you know.
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Post by vjaska on Jul 28, 2010 23:12:16 GMT
Oh dear, i would have thought with such a big engine and a fairly decent amount of power compared to alot londons buses. They would have done well with hills as scania buses have a good amount of torque also. Thanks for letting me know though. Out of intrest what body was the B10 on and how much bhp does it have if you know. No probs BHP I'm not sure off but it was on a Wright Renown body and is a R HCD reg, might be with Oxford Bus Company now . |
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Post by Volvo on Jul 28, 2010 23:20:13 GMT
I know what ones your talking about now, thanks(wink).
seen plenty of them but never been on one but have been on a b7rle which is probably more powerful, would like to see one of those tackle something like muswell hill which aparently is the steepest hill in london.
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Post by vjaska on Jul 29, 2010 0:32:35 GMT
I know what ones your talking about now, thanks(wink). seen plenty of them but never been on one but have been on a b7rle which is probably more powerful, would like to see one of those tackle something like muswell hill which aparently is the steepest hill in london. Really, is there any sign up detailing the % of the incline as Crown Dale has a 10% incline and I'm pretty sure Central, Spa & Anerley Hill's are very similar |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2010 7:11:03 GMT
Apparently the Versas for the 411 are being built in Leeds
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Post by mre81 on Jul 29, 2010 23:37:19 GMT
A lot of Quality Line Darts have stickers on the rear showing they are limited to (I think) 29mph. This might suggest that QL aren't too interested in speed, hence why the new Versa's are seemingly underpowered. I don't know that area of London particularly well, but I don't think it's too hilly so maybe doesn't require too much oomph from its buses.
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Post by vjaska on Jul 30, 2010 0:02:37 GMT
A lot of Quality Line Darts have stickers on the rear showing they are limited to (I think) 29mph. This might suggest that QL aren't too interested in speed, hence why the new Versa's are seemingly underpowered. I don't know that area of London particularly well, but I don't think it's too hilly so maybe doesn't require too much oomph from its buses. All the Merc Versa's in London are under-powered. I know all their Solos are limited to 27mph |
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Post by mre81 on Jul 30, 2010 0:09:56 GMT
It seems ridiculous really doesn't it. Especially when the speed limit in most areas they serve is 30mph. I imagine in some areas the limit rises up above that too. If they can't even reach the limit they're not exactly aiding the smooth flow of traffic  |
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Post by vjaska on Jul 30, 2010 17:42:58 GMT
It seems ridiculous really doesn't it. Especially when the speed limit in most areas they serve is 30mph. I imagine in some areas the limit rises up above that too. If they can't even reach the limit they're not exactly aiding the smooth flow of traffic One of their routes, the S1, runs along a national speed limit road, Sutton Lane. |
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Post by jay38a on Jul 30, 2010 18:15:59 GMT
I have a feeling the S1's buses are not limited, as ive been on them and the drivers thrash them like made down Sutton Lane. I had one who maxed it out down there doing about 45mph
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Post by vjaska on Jul 30, 2010 18:54:33 GMT
I have a feeling the S1's buses are not limited, as ive been on them and the drivers thrash them like made down Sutton Lane. I had one who maxed it out down there doing about 45mph So have I, I filmed one of their beautiful Esteem being revved abnd thrashed along there, clearly showcasing the lovely sound of Voith ;D www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5q15tjULzM |
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Post by eggmiester on Aug 3, 2010 13:52:58 GMT
Still dont beat a Focus ST - £225 bhp standard, (potential for up to 280 bhp), Focus RS - 305 bhp Standard (up to 350 bhp with a mountune performance upgrade). All this from the same engine!!!  Is this the Focus I keep seeing on another website always being posted by yourself?? ;D may well be..................... lol ;D |
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