i-bus ZZ option

[fl70500]

The new ZZ option so we can use the annoncements while on non-tfl work (railway replacement). good idea and a long time coming however it keeps loging off so when i go for an announcment i can;t as it needs logging on again.

[eggmiester]

Mar 19, 2011 17:04:00 GMT fl70500 said:

The new ZZ option so we can use the annoncements while on non-tfl work (railway replacement). good idea and a long time coming however it keeps loging off so when i go for an announcment i can;t as it needs logging on again.

Must be a couple of teething issues with it then, i'm gonna try it tonight as i've got the job of running a late night rail replacement down the woolwich line to Gillingham. Will post some feedback in the morning.

[slr]

Its nothing special.. Sign it on as ZZLC and make up the other numbers, it announces [pause where route would be] to [pause where destination would be] so basically just the word 'to'.

Of course you can use the announcements but it may show up on a controllers screen somewhere and if it annoys them they can boot you off it

[eggmiester]

Mar 19, 2011 20:22:44 GMT slr said:

Its nothing special.. Sign it on as ZZLC and make up the other numbers, it announces [pause where route would be] to [pause where destination would be] so basically just the word 'to'.

Of course you can use the announcements but it may show up on a controllers screen somewhere and if it annoys them they can boot you off it

Its basically a test function that has been autorised by TFL's TSG (Technical Services Group) who manage the Ibus system, for companies to use on commercial work where the ibus (if fitted) would otherwise not be used. Go-Ahead are asking rail replacement drivers to use it as it makes it easier for control rooms to contact buses and vice versa. It also enabels drivers the full use of the Ibus pre-recorded announcements and the SMS system etc.

The official Logon process is:
GARAGE: enter the normal garage number, for BX this will be 10.
ROUTE: ZZLC (for central, ZZLG for general and i suspect BT for Blue Triangle and DB for Docklands)
RUN NO: 999
TRIP NO: 999

Drivers are then asked to select Route Variant, and it should automatically log on.

Any buses logged on the ZZ routes will show up on controllers Ibus screens, they can select ZZ as a route option and a proper route diagram is shown, but the buses will not move across the screen as theres no defined route. Buses on ZZ will also show up on the GPS maps.

[lc1]

Mar 19, 2011 21:01:24 GMT eggmiester said:

Go-Ahead are asking rail replacement drivers to use it as it makes it easier for control rooms to contact buses and vice versa.

Strange as the first I had heard of it was when you told me last night....then again can't remember last time I done a Rail Rep...not even getting the early Sunday morning jobs anymore

[eggmiester]

Well I tried it on saturday night and on the first run it worked and stayed on but on the second run, sunday morning, I logged it on an it stayed logged on for about 15 mins before logging off. I can only assume the ibus controller logged the bus off as it wouldn't log off, off its own back surely.

Lc1, I only knew about the ZZ route a week or so ago.

[fl70500]

Yeah the notice only went up last week in my Garage...guess it culd be the controlers booting us off. next time i'll call and find out

been given BE for our garage
and DC for Docklands.

[greeny253]

Sorry to bump this one.

Tried it on my radio today and it isn't available to us. Must be a special Go-Ahead only thing though I admit it would be way useful.

[slr]

Have you asked what your code is? Obviously if you try and use for example ZZLC you will get a *No Route Variant Found* or similar as it's not your operator.

It is most likley london-wide though, as all operators need to test the signs, especially when it is the only bus stopping sign on the bus on some newer vehicles - as if none work then they could get a PG9!

[greeny253]

Nov 12, 2011 16:09:20 GMT slr said:

Have you asked what your code is? Obviously if you try and use for example ZZLC you will get a *No Route Variant Found* or similar as it's not your operator.

It is most likley london-wide though, as all operators need to test the signs, especially when it is the only bus stopping sign on the bus on some newer vehicles - as if none work then they could get a PG9!

I haven't as it happens. I tried "ZZRM" as RM is my garage but I guess it could be anything! I'll try ZZEL & ZZSC in the morning

[slr]

The codes are operator based rather than garage based, try ask your iBus controllers!

[Deleted]

I tryed this on rail in bakers street and had to tell 50 plus bus drivers in the end I ented it in my self as it was easier. They should make it a bit easier because when you put zzd and put the incorrect last letter in you have start again and it just peees the drivers off lol

[eggmiester]

Nov 13, 2011 8:00:17 GMT slr said:

The codes are operator based rather than garage based, try ask your iBus controllers!

Yes they are operator specific, your operator should have thier code and published it to staff if they wish them to use it.

Codes i know of at the moment:
ZZLC - London Central
ZZLG - London General
ZZDB - Docklands buses
ZZBT - Blue Triangle
in effect any of the 4 above will work on Go-ahead London vehicles.
ZZMB - Metrobus
ZZML - Metroline
ZZLU - London United
ZZQL - Quality Line

Not 100% sure on any others thought. I would assume Stagecoach, First and Arriva whould use thier local operators codes like go-ahead so:
Arriva:
London South - ZZLS or ZZSL
Kent Thameside -ZZAK, ZZKT, or ZZSC (ZZKB even - Kentish Bus??)
Stagecoach:
Selkent - ZZSK
East London - ZZEL
Thameside (RM) - ZZTM or ZZEL
First:
Centrewest - ZZCW
Capital - ZZFC or ZZCC (capital citybus)

These are only suggestions, not definates.

[VPL630]

Here is what it looks Like www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0_nzsK-R08&feature=channel&noredirect=1