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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2012 22:16:46 GMT
I don't think the C stock is any faster than the D stock - between Aldgate East and Barking it's just a single pair of tracks there is no scope for one train to be faster than an another. I think it's just that the C stock generally makes a higher pitch sound making it feel faster.
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Post by M1104 on Dec 16, 2012 13:15:48 GMT
Indeed - I don't think transport for london like their drivers whizzing around too fast whether it be buses or tubes (in manual control) lol Unless the buses are hybrids. lol
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Post by Steve09 on Dec 26, 2012 23:14:26 GMT
I rate the C69/77 and D stock roughly the same.. The C stock are brilliant at their job of shifting the crowds which is what they were designed to do. The D stock not so much with their single leaf doors but they manage ok. I have alot of memories of my childhood using the District line from Embankment to get to the museums on day trips So I will probably be more sad to see the D stock go. I find the C stock cold sometimes but they ooze with character with the often grotty interiors (hmm?!) And then again I like the seating arrangement on the D stock. I have been intending for ages to go and photo these before the S stock start coming in en-masse but what with uni work this has had to be postoned for now
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Post by TA1 on Dec 27, 2012 9:55:17 GMT
I think the reason for the Cs in such a state is lack of care and vandalism on the East end really doesn't help. D stock doors were cheaper and easier to replace I think and was cheaper which is probably why they got single leaf doors. They probably didn't predict that it would be this heavily used in the future. I read somewhere that the Cs and Ds could hit high speeds like 50MPH - 60MPH on the east end back when they were new. It also said that A stocks could go off the clock and that person said one was recorded going up to 83.5 MPH Vandalism in the East End isn't that bad, from experience. Everyone on the Tube is usually fairly respectable, I do think it's a bit of a myth. I've found vandalism is worst in places like Eltham (the buses on the 160 got Haribo vandalism within the first few days!) The C-stock aren't particularly vandalised, they're just worn out. The seats are pretty faded, and the paint on the doors is going. It's much more just general wear from years and years of service. The D-stock are very slow along the Aldgate-Bow section, though they pick up speed out of Bow. The C-stock manage to be faster all the way though, I have no idea why. Single-leaf doors are cheaper, yes. But they're very irritating. People bunch up right by them in a manner which is fine with the H&C, but on the D-line the doors are so narrow they're still in the way. Also makes getting off a crowded train more of a chore, which is irritating, though I'm usually going against the commuter flow on the D-line so I don't encounter too many crowded trains. The paint on the doors hasn't worn as you say due to wear and tear but more a result of the heavy vandalism that has been carried out on the doors, the engineers/cleaners based at Hammersmith have used acid and a buffer to remove the graffiti which resulted in the doors appearing like so. I think at the time of building the D78 & now departed 1983 stock London Transport, looked for a cheap way to transport passengers quickly and efficiently. The aluminium body's where also very cheap at the time iirc. I think the breaking of both C & D Stocks vary a lot which could be a reason why the D78's run slower on the section you mentioned.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2013 13:25:12 GMT
Hey guys, anyone familiar with the Metropolitan Line will know that due to the new timetable change which took place last year, it meant all Metropolitan Line trains heading towards the City from Harrow on the Hill now form an all Stations service which can be very irritating especially when Platform 1 and 2 are both occupied by Trains, so you have no clue as to which is going first.
Yesterday my 12:20 service from Harrow towards Aldgate was fast service all the way to Finchley Road which was a nice surprise, does anyone know why this happened as rtere not any faults with the down slow line or anything.
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Post by eggmiester on Apr 8, 2013 22:20:04 GMT
Hey guys, anyone familiar with the Metropolitan Line will know that due to the new timetable change which took place last year, it meant all Metropolitan Line trains heading towards the City from Harrow on the Hill now form an all Stations service which can be very irritating especially when Platform 1 and 2 are both occupied by Trains, so you have no clue as to which is going first. Yesterday my 12:20 service from Harrow towards Aldgate was fast service all the way to Finchley Road which was a nice surprise, does anyone know why this happened as rtere not any faults with the down slow line or anything. could only assume it was a temporary WTT issued to get drivers used to breaking distances at station with the new stock and everything it no doubt takes some practice and of course drivers need to know their distances even if their train is a fast service as plans and stopping arrangements can change at the click of a finger.
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Post by daveb0789 on Apr 9, 2013 8:12:48 GMT
On the main line if a train misses out stops its usually because its running very late and needs to make up time so it can form the correct service on the return journey. It could be that a train in front has broken down and they needed that one to make the return service. As for braking distances that is interesting as when the 378s were introduced on the north London line it took a whole for drivers to get used to them as they can accelerate and brake more quickly than 313.
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Post by paulsw2 on Jan 29, 2014 11:12:06 GMT
I think the reason for the Cs in such a state is lack of care and vandalism on the East end really doesn't help. D stock doors were cheaper and easier to replace I think and was cheaper which is probably why they got single leaf doors. They probably didn't predict that it would be this heavily used in the future. I read somewhere that the Cs and Ds could hit high speeds like 50MPH - 60MPH on the east end back when they were new. It also said that A stocks could go off the clock and that person said one was recorded going up to 83.5 MPH Vandalism in the East End isn't that bad, from experience. Everyone on the Tube is usually fairly respectable, I do think it's a bit of a myth. I've found vandalism is worst in places like Eltham (the buses on the 160 got Haribo vandalism within the first few days!) The C-stock aren't particularly vandalised, they're just worn out. The seats are pretty faded, and the paint on the doors is going. It's much more just general wear from years and years of service. The D-stock are very slow along the Aldgate-Bow section, though they pick up speed out of Bow. The C-stock manage to be faster all the way though, I have no idea why. Single-leaf doors are cheaper, yes. But they're very irritating. People bunch up right by them in a manner which is fine with the H&C, but on the D-line the doors are so narrow they're still in the way. Also makes getting off a crowded train more of a chore, which is irritating, though I'm usually going against the commuter flow on the D-line so I don't encounter too many crowded trains. When we leave bow road we raise the weak field flag which means we get faster acceleration and the motors cut out at 40mph if the flag is not raised we get slower acceleration and motors cut out at 30mph we do not use the weak field between Bow road and Turnham Green/Putney Bridge.
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Post by cc2005 on Jan 31, 2014 8:45:51 GMT
Rode a rare S stock train yesterday evening: the end carriage was 21320.
It was an S8 on the 445 Watford Met line train. But it had all longditudinal seating (like the S7's)!! instead of the usual S8 half longditudinal and half sets of 4 back/forward facing! Very strange indeed! I thought the all longditudinal seating trains were the S7's??!
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Post by snoggle on Jan 31, 2014 10:36:59 GMT
Rode a rare S stock train yesterday evening: the end carriage was 21320. It was an S8 on the 445 Watford Met line train. But it had all longditudinal seating (like the S7's)!! instead of the usual S8 half longditudinal and half sets of 4 back/forward facing! Very strange indeed! I thought the all longditudinal seating trains were the S7's??! I believe there are some "composite" trains of S7s plus a bit of a S8 joined together to run on the Met. This is while the S8s receive a series of modifications to bring them up to spec. The details are on the District Dave board.
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