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Uno
Sept 20, 2019 6:52:58 GMT
Post by busoccultation on Sept 20, 2019 6:52:58 GMT
It would mean every bus would have to stick to the same route all the time it just wouldn't be practical. The best way to do it is brand up 75% of the allocation like what happened in the Barkingside trial leaving 25% with no branding which leaves enough vehicles to use across all routes when daily allocations inevitably stray. For me, TfL chose the wrong areas to brand up - personally, I'd of chosen the R or U routes as a test bed along with the X26 which was meant to receive branding at one point. The advantage with the R & U routes is they all serve a common major place (Orpington for the R routes & Uxbridge for the U routes) - buses could adopt a colour code system with matching livery like what has been done outside London with various networks (MK Metro used to do one such scheme, Network Harlow attempted one though it wasn't thorough enough). For Uxbridge, you could emphasise the 'U' part with some catchy slogans along the lines of, "U can reach Brunel Uni by bus" - TfL need to get creative if they're going to do it succesfully and I fear the 383 (which seems a random route to choose) will miss the point. The 383 branding is a little different to the other London branding trials as UNO is largely involved on creating & designing on the branding itself based on what is said on twitter, wouldn't be surprised if this is all down to UNO's incentive (alongside with a partnership with TfL) brand the buses on the 383 as well as doing the refurbs on it's 15 reg Enviro 200's.
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Post by galwhv69 on Sept 20, 2019 7:14:13 GMT
wouldn't be surprised if this is all down to UNO's incentive to brand the buses on the 383 as well as doing the refurbs on it's 15 reg Enviro 200's. I think that this is a pertnership with TfL not just a Uno idea
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Post by LT 20181 on Sept 20, 2019 11:50:57 GMT
So, today is the launch of the "new" 383. Might I say, the new route branding scheme looks splendid! And this launch event in my opinion is a great way to bring the community together, as seen in this tweet. I really do think this is a great idea and I really think there should be more across the network.
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Post by YY13VKP on Sept 20, 2019 23:47:34 GMT
So, today is the launch of the "new" 383. Might I say, the new route branding scheme looks splendid! And this launch event in my opinion is a great way to bring the community together, as seen in this tweet. I really do think this is a great idea and I really think there should be more across the network. I really hope we see more of this across the network, and what Uno have done here is absolutely fantastic. However whilst other companies may be taking note, you also have to remember that the 383 is Uno's only TfL route, therefore they can brand their buses in this way since they won't stray onto other routes, and whilst this isn't a problem as such, it can be confusing for passengers if they stray on other routes fully branded. I do agree however that it is a good way to bring the community together and make them more aware of their local bus services, and hopefully given the success of this event Uno held, more operators may follow suit for their outer London routes. I think something like this could have been done for the X26 though
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Uno
Sept 21, 2019 10:11:03 GMT
Post by Eastlondoner62 on Sept 21, 2019 10:11:03 GMT
So, today is the launch of the "new" 383. Might I say, the new route branding scheme looks splendid! And this launch event in my opinion is a great way to bring the community together, as seen in this tweet. I really do think this is a great idea and I really think there should be more across the network. I really hope we see more of this across the network, and what Uno have done here is absolutely fantastic. However whilst other companies may be taking note, you also have to remember that the 383 is Uno's only TfL route, therefore they can brand their buses in this way since they won't stray onto other routes, and whilst this isn't a problem as such, it can be confusing for passengers if they stray on other routes fully branded. I do agree however that it is a good way to bring the community together and make them more aware of their local bus services, and hopefully given the success of this event Uno held, more operators may follow suit for their outer London routes. I think something like this could have been done for the X26 though I think the success of the Uno version has been the fact as you said it's Uno's only TfL route and they had the ability to spend time on the branding. The X26 one would have probably been similar to the useless work done in Barkingside which all it accomplished was ruining all the spider maps in the area to make them unusable.
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Uno
Oct 23, 2019 16:17:41 GMT
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Post by tony4387 on Oct 23, 2019 16:17:41 GMT
From the 28 October uno will be operating 2 new services from there Northampton depot these being the 59 market harbrough to welford and the 60 Northampton to welford as result of the closure of the Corby depot of centrebus
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Uno
Nov 21, 2019 19:27:22 GMT
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Post by LT 20181 on Nov 21, 2019 19:27:22 GMT
It appears one of UNO’s Citaros has caught fire while seeing duties on one of the University shuttle routes
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Post by kenmet on Nov 21, 2019 19:31:57 GMT
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Post by tony4387 on Jan 16, 2020 22:08:37 GMT
Nice to see uno gain 2 more TFL contracts but not to sure about the use of electric buses on school day only services seems a bit pointless to me
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Uno
Jan 16, 2020 22:10:29 GMT
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Post by ThinLizzy on Jan 16, 2020 22:10:29 GMT
Nice to see uno gain 2 more TFL contracts but not to sure about the use of electric buses on school day only services seems a bit pointless to me From what I understand, they'll be using the BYDs Metroline have just withdrawn from the 98
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Post by redexpress on Jan 17, 2020 7:45:40 GMT
Nice to see uno gain 2 more TFL contracts but not to sure about the use of electric buses on school day only services seems a bit pointless to me Assuming they will indeed be using the BYD integrals that were on trial with Metroline, I'd say it's a very good use of the buses. Trial buses like these often end up being scrapped after their trials because they are too non-standard for most operators to bother with. I'd much rather see the buses do 5-10 years on a school contract instead of rotting in a field somewhere. Also, a handful of school buses probably won't require major investment in upgrading electrical infrastructure.
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Uno
Jan 17, 2020 17:47:23 GMT
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Post by galwhv69 on Jan 17, 2020 17:47:23 GMT
Nice to see uno gain 2 more TFL contracts but not to sure about the use of electric buses on school day only services seems a bit pointless to me Assuming they will indeed be using the BYD integrals that were on trial with Metroline, I'd say it's a very good use of the buses. Trial buses like these often end up being scrapped after their trials because they are too non-standard for most operators to bother with. I'd much rather see the buses do 5-10 years on a school contract instead of rotting in a field somewhere. Also, a handful of school buses probably won't require major investment in upgrading electrical infrastructure. They could also possibly be used on Uno's other routes between journeys. Swap ETM and off it goes
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Uno
Jan 20, 2020 13:49:55 GMT
Post by foxhat on Jan 20, 2020 13:49:55 GMT
Assuming they will indeed be using the BYD integrals that were on trial with Metroline, I'd say it's a very good use of the buses. Trial buses like these often end up being scrapped after their trials because they are too non-standard for most operators to bother with. I'd much rather see the buses do 5-10 years on a school contract instead of rotting in a field somewhere. Also, a handful of school buses probably won't require major investment in upgrading electrical infrastructure. They could also possibly be used on Uno's other routes between journeys. Swap ETM and off it goes I do hope this comment was in jest! Oyster machine fitment is certainly not a 5 minute job. Whilst it may feel like a good move to use it during the day, it is bad practice to use a TfL Red bus on commercial work and don't forget the confusion for the passengers.
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Uno
Jan 20, 2020 14:30:20 GMT
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Post by vjaska on Jan 20, 2020 14:30:20 GMT
They could also possibly be used on Uno's other routes between journeys. Swap ETM and off it goes I do hope this comment was in jest! Oyster machine fitment is certainly not a 5 minute job. Whilst it may feel like a good move to use it during the day, it is bad practice to use a TfL Red bus on commercial work and don't forget the confusion for the passengers. Of course, First London, Blue Triangle, Metroline & Sullivan Buses did all use TfL red buses on non London routes and I don’t remember hearing many complaints - providing the right blinds are up, it shouldn’t be an issue. Metrobus have, on many occasions, fitted TfL machines to some vehicles when the 405 was at Crawley including the Omnicitys & Caetanos so TBF, it’s not beyond the realm of possibility even if it’s not as easy to swap over.
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Uno
Jan 20, 2020 16:15:42 GMT
Post by foxhat on Jan 20, 2020 16:15:42 GMT
I do hope this comment was in jest! Oyster machine fitment is certainly not a 5 minute job. Whilst it may feel like a good move to use it during the day, it is bad practice to use a TfL Red bus on commercial work and don't forget the confusion for the passengers. Of course, First London, Blue Triangle, Metroline & Sullivan Buses did all use TfL red buses on non London routes and I don’t remember hearing many complaints - providing the right blinds are up, it shouldn’t be an issue. Metrobus have, on many occasions, fitted TfL machines to some vehicles when the 405 was at Crawley including the Omnicitys & Caetanos so TBF, it’s not beyond the realm of possibility even if it’s not as easy to swap over. The fact that said operators had the flexibility to do so, one would presume to cover in case of an emergency, is good contingency planning but scheduled use (like what was suggested above) is a no-no. It might not be beyond the realm of theoretical possibility but the notion of having to swap two different tickets machines, in at least two different vehicles, at least twice a day, for five days a week, for nearly 40 weeks a year is a logistical nightmare and a practical impossibility.
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