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Post by lonmark on Oct 31, 2012 17:18:29 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2012 17:37:26 GMT
All he is doing is following the tractor and did not realise that the lights are flashing. Since he is fired he should have been in a union which would persuade the company to reinstate him.
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Post by moz on Oct 31, 2012 17:59:08 GMT
All he is doing is following the tractor and did not realise that the lights are flashing. Since he is fired he should have been in a union which would persuade the company to reinstate him. Gross Misconduct, no question. You shouldn't attempt to cross a level crossing unless you have a clear exit. It's not just one of the rules of the highway but bright-as-day common sense. Moz
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Post by greeny253 on Oct 31, 2012 20:50:14 GMT
All he is doing is following the tractor and did not realise that the lights are flashing. Since he is fired he should have been in a union which would persuade the company to reinstate him. I'm sorry but its not exactly easy to miss the railway crossing lights when they are on. Had the crossing operator not seen that happening, the consequences could have been much greater. As it happens, the bus was empty.
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Post by john on Nov 6, 2012 19:26:56 GMT
All he is doing is following the tractor and did not realise that the lights are flashing. Since he is fired he should have been in a union which would persuade the company to reinstate him. Any union would have told him to forget even trying to fight the case, he's sacked and that's the end of. The guy was a fool, regardless. Always make your own mind up driving, not follow like a sheep.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2012 19:40:08 GMT
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Post by john on Nov 6, 2012 19:57:26 GMT
It's simple common sense, just like at any other junction. Driver was an idiot and rightly lost his job.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2012 20:04:39 GMT
All he is doing is following the tractor and did not realise that the lights are flashing. Since he is fired he should have been in a union which would persuade the company to reinstate him. Any union would have told him to forget even trying to fight the case, he's sacked and that's the end of. The guy was a fool, regardless. Always make your own mind up driving, not follow like a sheep. Purpose of the unions isn't to stop anyone getting fired for doing anything wrong after all! They're there for unfair dismissal. As you say, it was hardly unfair!
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Post by slr on Nov 6, 2012 20:15:37 GMT
I think an incident like that is on par with a bridge strike.. no defense really, and the consequenses could have been so severe.
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Post by john on Nov 6, 2012 20:35:09 GMT
I think an incident like that is on par with a bridge strike.. no defense really, and the consequenses could have been so severe. Yeah, especially seeing as it's the Great Eastern mainline through to Ipswich and Norwich. Trains are doing up to 100mph on that stretch, including freight trains to Harwich. Driver deserved to be sacked for that, he was a complete moron.
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Post by Steve80 on Nov 6, 2012 20:42:45 GMT
Interesting that buses have to stop but other vehicles don't. Why make one rule for some but not for others Regarding the incident with the driver who didn't see the flashing light. There should be two barriers with the first one closing for traffic trying to cross the tracks and the second barrier for traffic trying to exit the tracks closing a few moments later, just like the barriers in mitcham eastfields (route 152). That way, the bus wouldn't get trapped like that. Im sure the tractor also went through the red lights but luckly didn't get caught by the barriers closing.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2012 20:48:18 GMT
Regarding the incident with the driver who didn't see the flashing light. There should be two barriers with the first one closing for traffic trying to cross the tracks and the second barrier for traffic trying to exit the tracks closing a few moments later, just like the barriers in mitcham eastfields (route 152). That way, the bus wouldn't get trapped like that. Im sure the tractor also went through the red lights but luckly didn't get caught by the barriers closing. I'm guessing that would only work on one-way roads - on two-way roads, the entry barrier is the exit barrier for the other direction, and vice-versa... Otherwise the exit barrier would end up shutting before the entry barrier for the other direction. ;D
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Post by Steve80 on Nov 6, 2012 22:02:20 GMT
Regarding the incident with the driver who didn't see the flashing light. There should be two barriers with the first one closing for traffic trying to cross the tracks and the second barrier for traffic trying to exit the tracks closing a few moments later, just like the barriers in mitcham eastfields (route 152). That way, the bus wouldn't get trapped like that. Im sure the tractor also went through the red lights but luckly didn't get caught by the barriers closing. I'm guessing that would only work on one-way roads - on two-way roads, the entry barrier is the exit barrier for the other direction, and vice-versa... Otherwise the exit barrier would end up shutting before the entry barrier for the other direction. ;D The level crossing barriers in mitcham eastfields www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DhESf_Cfnk
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2012 22:18:32 GMT
I'm guessing that would only work on one-way roads - on two-way roads, the entry barrier is the exit barrier for the other direction, and vice-versa... Otherwise the exit barrier would end up shutting before the entry barrier for the other direction. ;D The level crossing barriers in mitcham eastfields www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DhESf_CfnkNow I see what you mean! Misinterpreted what you were saying, sorry! That is a fairly clever design.
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