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Post by rj131 on Aug 14, 2022 10:28:38 GMT
Cheers. Then the finance of TFL hopefully won't affect New buses as there are new models coming out from different manufacturers. But ultimately TfL pays for the new buses in the tender cost. So if they had a choice of say LT vs new electrics they might go for the LT until the financial situation improves. Problem is I think it’s going to take a miracle for TfL’s finances to improve. As much as we moan about the cuts the usage levels TfL has still aren’t anyway near covid levels on tubes or buses (probably very likely due to changed habits like WFH, and now probably people cutting back in journeys due to the cost of living), so even a long term funding deal from the government won’t make TfL awash with money again like the mid 2000s
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Post by yunus on Aug 23, 2022 13:42:54 GMT
Why dont Electric buses usually stray onto other routes? IIRC when Hybrids were new strays happened more or less immediately.
Maybe the situation will change in the future but who knows!
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Post by vjaska on Aug 23, 2022 18:01:00 GMT
Why dont Electric buses usually stray onto other routes? IIRC when Hybrids were new strays happened more or less immediately. Maybe the situation will change in the future but who knows! It depends on the operator & garage - BN's EA's are straying pretty regularly onto the 133 for example
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Post by M1104 on Aug 23, 2022 19:07:54 GMT
Why dont Electric buses usually stray onto other routes? IIRC when Hybrids were new strays happened more or less immediately. Maybe the situation will change in the future but who knows! One possible factor is that not all drivers are type trained for the electric buses, which then limits their usage onto other routes. I imagine this is partly why none of the Me class Optares from the 200 have yet had odd workings on the 152 which does similar local routings.
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Post by WH241 on Aug 23, 2022 19:09:13 GMT
Why dont Electric buses usually stray onto other routes? IIRC when Hybrids were new strays happened more or less immediately. Maybe the situation will change in the future but who knows! Not really practical as different routes have different schedules / mileage so could affect charging patterns, also garages have set parking spaces for the buses in the garage so run in / out could be affected if used on other routes. Personally think its much better for electrics to be allocated to the routes they are brought for. The occasional odd workings do happen and I imagine this will change as more and more routes convert and spares become available.
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Post by yunus on Aug 23, 2022 19:27:12 GMT
Why dont Electric buses usually stray onto other routes? IIRC when Hybrids were new strays happened more or less immediately. Maybe the situation will change in the future but who knows! Not really practical as different routes have different schedules / mileage so could affect charging patterns, also garages have set parking spaces for the buses in the garage so run in / out could be affected if used on other routes. Personally think its much better for electrics to be allocated to the routes they are brought for. The occasional odd workings do happen and I imagine this will change as more and more routes convert and spares become available.
Good points made. As we know that in the Central ULEZ the vehicle requirement is Hybrid or full Zero Emission, I would have thought the Hybrid + Electrics would be intermixed, of course can happen & personally I will be keeping an eye out on the 113 when the Electrics arrive for the 204 at EW. As said in my previous post, I genuinely thought that Hybrid buses did stray immediately but going through a few old photos on flickr seems they started straying from around 2014-15. Thrilled how time flies.
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Post by yunus on Aug 23, 2022 19:29:40 GMT
Why dont Electric buses usually stray onto other routes? IIRC when Hybrids were new strays happened more or less immediately. Maybe the situation will change in the future but who knows! One possible factor is that not all drivers are type trained for the electric buses, which then limits their usage onto other routes. I imagine this is partly why none of the Me class Optares from the 200 have yet had odd workings on the 152 which does similar local routings. As the vehicles continue increasing rapidly just how Hybrid buses have, I think it is safe to say that drivers will be type trained. Of course the other hand Diesel buses are and have reduced rapidly (repeating I know) so it makes sense to have drivers trained especially as there are driver shortages across the industry.
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Post by yunus on Aug 23, 2022 19:30:40 GMT
Why dont Electric buses usually stray onto other routes? IIRC when Hybrids were new strays happened more or less immediately. Maybe the situation will change in the future but who knows! It depends on the operator & garage - BN's EA's are straying pretty regularly onto the 133 for example Actually just saw an EA on the 133. Tried to get a snap but could not prepare camera on time.
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Post by WH241 on Aug 23, 2022 19:36:39 GMT
One possible factor is that not all drivers are type trained for the electric buses, which then limits their usage onto other routes. I imagine this is partly why none of the Me class Optares from the 200 have yet had odd workings on the 152 which does similar local routings. As the vehicles continue increasing rapidly just how Hybrid buses have, I think it is safe to say that drivers will be type trained. Of course the other hand Diesel buses are and have reduced rapidly (repeating I know) so it makes sense to have drivers trained especially as there are driver shortages across the industry. Drivers might be type trained but with some companies this expires after a certain amount of time if the buses are not driven. Also drivers don't always know all the routes at a garage.
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Post by M1104 on Aug 24, 2022 9:07:35 GMT
As the vehicles continue increasing rapidly just how Hybrid buses have, I think it is safe to say that drivers will be type trained. Of course the other hand Diesel buses are and have reduced rapidly (repeating I know) so it makes sense to have drivers trained especially as there are driver shortages across the industry. Drivers might be type trained but with some companies this expires after a certain amount of time if the buses are not driven. Also drivers don't always know all the routes at a garage. When i was at London General in the '90s a driver who had not done a route for at least six months had to route learn it again. IICR type training then was repeated if not driven for two years or more.
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Post by galwhv69 on Aug 24, 2022 14:44:05 GMT
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Post by snowman on Aug 24, 2022 14:52:52 GMT
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Post by southlondon413 on Aug 24, 2022 15:17:06 GMT
New photos of Ee70.
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Post by cc2005 on Aug 26, 2022 7:25:20 GMT
Not sure who operates the Sky bus Shuttle in West London, but it appears they've upgraded at least some of their buses to full electric, E200EV (very short bus from what I could see), LG22BNU was out and about in Chiswick/Gunnersbury this morning
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Post by galwhv69 on Aug 26, 2022 7:33:25 GMT
Not sure who operates the Sky bus Shuttle in West London, but it appears they've upgraded at least some of their buses to full electric, E200EV (very short bus from what I could see), LG22BNU was out and about in Chiswick/Gunnersbury this morning Cobra Corporate Services. 8 in total (6 for London, 2 for Edinburgh)
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