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Post by YX10FFN on Jun 23, 2022 9:41:53 GMT
Routes S3 and S4 will be diverted away from Banstead Road South in Carshalton between Pine Walk and Beeches Walk. Routes run via Pine Walk, South Way, West Way and rejoin Pine Walk to The Warren (water works). Stops missed: Pine Walk, West Way Dates: 16/5/22-1/8/22 Those residents must be thrilled with more long term roadworks. Wonder why routes can't use Pine Walk the whole way, imagine it must be down to the road being narrow. Update- Route S3 is now diverted via The Warren, Woodmansterne Road and Staplehurst Road until the original end date. Stops missed: Crossways, Staplehurst Road Route S4 has returned to normal line of route. Routes 222, 350, U3 and U5 are diverted in West Drayton direct via Yiewsley High Street instead of Station Approach (carriageway collapse) Routes 698 and U1 terminate on Station Road. Route U1 turns via Swan Road, Church Road and Station Road. Stops missed: West Drayton Station (E, F) Dates: 12/6/22-31/7/22
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Post by abellion on Jun 25, 2022 13:44:27 GMT
The 110, 237 and 267 are all diverted via Great West Road and Ealing Road due to a closure on Chiswick High Road.
Traffic was also terrible in Brentford with all the traffic shoved into the right turn lane onto Ealing Road with the lights going green for barely 10 seconds at a time...
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Post by VWH1413 on Jun 25, 2022 18:30:57 GMT
13 and 460 diverted between Addison Way Hendon Lane both ways due to an fire. Not clear if on going or temporary.
London Transit doing an outstanding job managing the 13 as usual. Was on the 460 and just before the diversion, had an someone ask the driver if 13 was even running. Got off at Golders Green, due to curtailment and lo behold x3 13 route buses at the same time heading towards Victoria.
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Post by redbus on Jun 25, 2022 21:30:15 GMT
13 and 460 diverted between Addison Way Hendon Lane both ways due to an fire. Not clear if on going or temporary. London Transit doing an outstanding job managing the 13 as usual. Was on the 460 and just before the diversion, had an someone ask the driver if 13 was even running. Got off at Golders Green, due to curtailment and lo behold x3 13 route buses at the same time heading towards Victoria. Now over 30 minute gap on the 13 northbound. No buses showing on LVF north of Swiss Cottage going towards Finchley.
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Post by VWH1413 on Jun 25, 2022 22:18:54 GMT
13 and 460 diverted between Addison Way Hendon Lane both ways due to an fire. Not clear if on going or temporary. London Transit doing an outstanding job managing the 13 as usual. Was on the 460 and just before the diversion, had an someone ask the driver if 13 was even running. Got off at Golders Green, due to curtailment and lo behold x3 13 route buses at the same time heading towards Victoria. Now over 30 minute gap on the 13 northbound. No buses showing on LVF north of Swiss Cottage going towards Finchley. Seems the diversion has ended and was an quick one. Tracked 2 buses on the 460 just now, with no dropouts as I had today (i.e. stop tracking on LVF at Finchley Central). Even running evenly and nicely again.
Not sure what is going on with 13 and Central London area (for benefit of doubt). Speaking of 30 minute gap with 13 northbound you mention, I witnessed an similar event last week, seeing hardly any 13 buses (just the 1 to North Finchley) coming home on 460 via Finchley. Was shocked to discover my suspensions confirmed checking LVF. The Victoria/Portman Square destination was just an big mess as it is now on LVF.
Didn't post in Turns/Observations thread, as 13 always was problematic but seems to have reached an new low?
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Post by abellion on Jun 26, 2022 12:10:47 GMT
Now over 30 minute gap on the 13 northbound. No buses showing on LVF north of Swiss Cottage going towards Finchley. Seems the diversion has ended and was an quick one. Tracked 2 buses on the 460 just now, with no dropouts as I had today (i.e. stop tracking on LVF at Finchley Central). Even running evenly and nicely again.
Not sure what is going on with 13 and Central London area (for benefit of doubt). Speaking of 30 minute gap with 13 northbound you mention, I witnessed an similar event last week, seeing hardly any 13 buses (just the 1 to North Finchley) coming home on 460 via Finchley. Was shocked to discover my suspensions confirmed checking LVF. The Victoria/Portman Square destination was just an big mess as it is now on LVF.
Didn't post in Turns/Observations thread, as 13 always was problematic but seems to have reached an new low?
It's been pretty grim for a while now. The 13/82 idea was bad enough but now with the 113 and 189 at risk of diversion it's even worse. A breakdown into 2 routes would be better than having the 13 and 139 both left on their own. a: Golders Green - Victoria b: North Finchley - Marble Arch Doesn't really matter how they number them. In a perfect world I'd hope the new 82 would get TEs but I guess one of the 7 billion spare LTs would work.
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Post by redbus on Jun 26, 2022 12:31:38 GMT
Seems the diversion has ended and was an quick one. Tracked 2 buses on the 460 just now, with no dropouts as I had today (i.e. stop tracking on LVF at Finchley Central). Even running evenly and nicely again.
Not sure what is going on with 13 and Central London area (for benefit of doubt). Speaking of 30 minute gap with 13 northbound you mention, I witnessed an similar event last week, seeing hardly any 13 buses (just the 1 to North Finchley) coming home on 460 via Finchley. Was shocked to discover my suspensions confirmed checking LVF. The Victoria/Portman Square destination was just an big mess as it is now on LVF.
Didn't post in Turns/Observations thread, as 13 always was problematic but seems to have reached an new low?
It's been pretty grim for a while now. The 13/82 idea was bad enough but now with the 113 and 189 at risk of diversion it's even worse. A breakdown into 2 routes would be better than having the 13 and 139 both left on their own. a: Golders Green - Victoria b: North Finchley - Marble Arch Doesn't really matter how they number them. In a perfect world I'd hope the new 82 would get TEs but I guess one of the 7 billion spare LTs would work. I really don't think the length of the route that is the problem. The 13 has other routes in parallel along its whole length and none of those routes suffer such problems. I suspect one problem is that once it is clear no bonus will be earned on a particular route, there's no incentive left for an Operator to do better.
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Post by abellion on Jun 26, 2022 13:01:42 GMT
It's been pretty grim for a while now. The 13/82 idea was bad enough but now with the 113 and 189 at risk of diversion it's even worse. A breakdown into 2 routes would be better than having the 13 and 139 both left on their own. a: Golders Green - Victoria b: North Finchley - Marble Arch Doesn't really matter how they number them. In a perfect world I'd hope the new 82 would get TEs but I guess one of the 7 billion spare LTs would work. I really don't think the length of the route that is the problem. The 13 has other routes in parallel along its whole length and none of those routes suffer such problems. I suspect one problem is that once it is clear no bonus will be earned on a particular route, there's no incentive left for an Operator to do better. The thing I was going for was capacity - I used to use the corridor more regularly when it was 13/82/113 and then for a bit with 13/113 and the demand was quite high usually, but now with the 13's antics it's hard to get people to choose the bus over cars/trains. Going from 13/113/139/189 to 13/139 is also a drastic cut which will continue to push people away. I agree with your points though. Iff the 13 was less frequent due to a new 82 that would at least mean less buses operated by RATP playing follow the leader all day.
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Post by LondonExplorer316 on Jun 26, 2022 15:52:47 GMT
I really don't think the length of the route that is the problem. The 13 has other routes in parallel along its whole length and none of those routes suffer such problems. I suspect one problem is that once it is clear no bonus will be earned on a particular route, there's no incentive left for an Operator to do better. The thing I was going for was capacity - I used to use the corridor more regularly when it was 13/82/113 and then for a bit with 13/113 and the demand was quite high usually, but now with the 13's antics it's hard to get people to choose the bus over cars/trains. Going from 13/113/139/189 to 13/139 is also a drastic cut which will continue to push people away. I agree with your points though. Iff the 13 was less frequent due to a new 82 that would at least mean less buses operated by RATP playing follow the leader all day. The only good that came out of the EW Road changes was that 113 got an increase for me
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Post by YX10FFN on Jun 29, 2022 22:53:43 GMT
Routes 83, 183, 653, 683, N5 and N83 will be diverted (westbound only) in Hendon via Perryfield Way instead of West Hendon Broadway (gas works)
Stops missed: West Hendon Broadway (HL) Dates: 4/7/22-11/9/22
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Post by ronnie on Jul 4, 2022 18:54:53 GMT
Saw on FB that a HGV has hit the low bridge near Shortlands. Sure the 227/358 will be on diversion ….
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Post by BK15AZR on Jul 7, 2022 23:22:56 GMT
The Prestons Road right off the Blue Bridge is currently closed in both directions due to a stabbing (heard to be stable) there. The last few D6 & D7 are likely on diversion. Saw the third last D7 (WVL426) curtailed at Cubitt Town, Isle of Dogs but the one after it (WVL432) seems to be still going to Poplar but most likely diverted. A few D6s seem to be stuck near Crossharbour (all showing as approaching Jack Dash House/Coldharbour) so probably held in heavy traffic.
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Post by northlondon83 on Jul 11, 2022 12:25:28 GMT
Routes 29 and 253 (possibly others) diverted between Holloway and Manor House via Highbury Corner and Newington Green yesterday evening
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Post by Busboy105 on Jul 11, 2022 14:30:38 GMT
Routes 29 and 253 (possibly others) diverted between Holloway and Manor House via Highbury Corner and Newington Green yesterday evening Wireless festival. The Piccadilly and Victoria lines weren't stopping at Finsbury Park
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Post by greg on Jul 11, 2022 22:49:52 GMT
Routes 29 and 253 (possibly others) diverted between Holloway and Manor House via Highbury Corner and Newington Green yesterday evening Aswell as the 259 254 cut short to Manor House I believe 19 236 to Highbury Barn 4 must of also been diverted
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