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Post by daveb0789 on Jul 7, 2013 16:55:29 GMT
So London Overground is set up go completely driver only operation (DOO) by 2014. Over 100 train conductors will lose their jobs ? What are people's thoughts on this when at the same time TFL has recently reintroduced conductors on a vehicle that costs more than even a conventional hybrid bus in London?
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Post by snoggle on Jul 7, 2013 19:55:45 GMT
So London Overground is set up go completely driver only operation (DOO) by 2014. Over 100 train conductors will lose their jobs ? What are people's thoughts on this when at the same time TFL has recently reintroduced conductors on a vehicle that costs more than even a conventional hybrid bus in London? There is no policy consistency between different parts of TfL or in the Mayor's approach to transport in London? Quelle surprise!  |
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Post by joefrombow on Jul 8, 2013 9:05:11 GMT
So London Overground is set up go completely driver only operation (DOO) by 2014. Over 100 train conductors will lose their jobs ? What are people's thoughts on this when at the same time TFL has recently reintroduced conductors on a vehicle that costs more than even a conventional hybrid bus in London? To be honest in this day and age we don't really need conductors on the Overground network as far as i know they only work the North London Line and the the Gospel oak - Barking line and i have never ever seen them perform a ticket check all they seem to do on a normal day is close the doors and make a few announcement's the drivers on the rest of the London Overground network do fine on their own and on the 378's i believe the driver has a camera view of all the doors so realistically they are not needed , its sad to see people losing there jobs but technology has come along way and to be honest they're lucky they lasted this long in London with all the cuts to train guards in the 90's and early 2000s on all the ex network south east lines . |
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Post by Tangy on Jul 8, 2013 20:28:20 GMT
The conductors role on the NLL is to open/close doors, they don't do ticket checks, that is for revenue to do.
Also the 172s on the GOBLIN are not compatible with DOO, they will need to keep some conductors to work these trains
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Post by joefrombow on Jul 9, 2013 0:59:18 GMT
The conductors role on the NLL is to open/close doors, they don't do ticket checks, that is for revenue to do. Also the 172s on the GOBLIN are not compatible with DOO, they will need to keep some conductors to work these trains It's a shame part of they're role isn't to check tickets as this would make there jobs more justifiable i for one do like to see a member of staff on the train and think conductors are good for lost passengers and queries etc but I can certainly see the chop as it were going ahead for them and as for the GOBLIN they will more than likely adapt the 172s for DOO I would imagine its a shame but suppose we have got to move with times I also think in 2 years all the NBfL conductors will get the chop too like what happened back in 2001 when they were reintroduced on the 55 . |
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Post by Tangy on Jul 9, 2013 18:29:13 GMT
Some conductors on the GOBLIN do come out into the passenger area and operate the doors from the remote panel, although the process is slower than via the cab buttons.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2013 22:11:13 GMT
Aspiring for higher operating efficiency should be welcomed and jobs should only exist if there is a genuine need for them. It's a shame the NB4L project is riddled with silliness in its execution, as it really has the potential to be a success.
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Post by daveb0789 on Jul 27, 2013 9:47:10 GMT
The question is what jobs could they move to? Could they move to other jobs within TFL for example on the tube ? I think the bus RPI role is almost like the train conductor role.
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Post by slr on Jul 27, 2013 10:15:10 GMT
AFAIK they are employed by LOROL and not TfL so would not be party to TfLs redeployment programme...
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