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Post by vjaska on Nov 7, 2013 13:08:30 GMT
Something should support the 162 in the Edgebury area - it uses baby E200s and in school hours would be overwhelmed with students from Cooper's School and Beaverwood if it were the only service through there. Am still thinking that splitting the 160 is best - I would be reluctant to pull in other existing routes to change them because of the 160's unreliability. The 162 has used longer buses under Arriva, seen a few reports on here of longer Enviro 200's on the route during those days.
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Post by jay38a on Nov 7, 2013 15:37:56 GMT
Something should support the 162 in the Edgebury area - it uses baby E200s and in school hours would be overwhelmed with students from Cooper's School and Beaverwood if it were the only service through there. Am still thinking that splitting the 160 is best - I would be reluctant to pull in other existing routes to change them because of the 160's unreliability. The 162 has used longer buses under Arriva, seen a few reports on here of longer Enviro 200's on the route during those days. The long e200s only showed up a few times under Arriva (2-3 times in 5 years), cause they don't really fit round Edgebury Estate. It's happened once under Metrobus too.
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Route 160
Nov 9, 2013 15:58:01 GMT
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Post by Madstuntman on Nov 9, 2013 15:58:01 GMT
I have to say I've found this thread entertaining...
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Post by DT 11 on Nov 9, 2013 19:51:59 GMT
Almost on a daily basis in the AM/PM Peaks, 160s are curtailed to Hither Green, which is technically "Catford East" as the last stop before the turn is Minard Road! Plus the blind is very misleading "Hither Green, St Mildred's Road" the blind for the old turn is constantly used. It should be changed to "Catford, Minard Road" as it is an SE6 Postcode and Not Hither Green. Whether it is debatable or not Sandhurst Road is Catford and most people know it as Catford the title to call it Hither Green is very misleading IMO, the Hither Green used in the iBus is taken direct from the 225s announcement. Looks so unprofessional. This does not help the service at all when a bus is missing from the Catford area because it means much longer waits and busier 124s, 181s and 284s. There is a much higher demand for the 160 in the Catford /Eltham area than Sidcup, so why would they constantly curtail buses to Hither Green (Catford, Minard Road) it is becoming too frequent and other routes mainly the 284 have to suffer overcrowding because of it. The people controlling the service need to come and see how busy the Catford area is in the peaks. Yes there's a bit of traffic hot spots on the 160, but why not run them to Catford and turn them at QMH instead or increase the AM/PM peak PVR to 12 to prevent such curtailments because I think it is ridiculous especially as bus routes are becoming busier the 284 can just about cope in the peaks now, an extra bus out on the 160 would at least be able to all buses to cover full milage when buses are later without the need to turn buses. Overall I think the 160 frequency in the peaks should be every 12 and every 15 off peak. I still cannot believe Arriva Kent Thameside managed to retain the service the only decent outcome was new buses and a good off peak service, as it is one of my local routes the service over the last 7 years has not been great which seems to be an issue with Arriva Kent Thameside, e.g the 126 has been with Metrobus almost 8 months and the service is far superior to how DT ran it and this is not me being biased either, turns on the 126 to Bromley North and Mottingham are very rare nowadays I myself have only seen 1 126 to Mottingham under Metrobus and that was a sub bus on MB 50 which was late, whereas DT turned buses too frequently why couldn't DT do it and they ran the route for 17 years. The same can be said about the 162, which was run better by Stagecoach and also Metrobus. The only decent service I give them credit for is the 286 a route for them to be proud of. The B15 service is also quite decent as well as the 428 and 492. Of course, it's SE6 and not a Hither Green postcode (?!). Hither Green is divided across SE13 and SE6. Some parts of Hither Green are on the SE6 postcode, but the Sandhurst Road / Verdant Lane area is not Hither Green, it is Catford East the edge of Catford. When you cross the Brownhill Road A205 Verdant Lane up to Laleham Road that is Hither Green.
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