Driver Changeover Points

[Paul]

I would add the ones I know but 'Metrobus' beat me to it in the first post!

I would add though that I believe the R7 is at the Orpington terminus and the R5/R10 has changeovers at Green Street Green. I've not looked too closely at the new schedules but I'm pretty sure we're using ferry buses down to Green Street Green at some points during the day. I'll be able to relate some greater detail after I've done the new routes at the end of the week!

[M1104]

Dec 17, 2013 21:13:01 GMT guybowden said:

Most of the routes that serve Denmark Hill and Camberwell Road which are run out of Q and QB change at Camberwell Green.

QB don't do any routes that serve Camberwell Road and Denmark Hill. I take it you meant WL?

[Hassaan]

27/391: Outside V
72: Shepherd's Bush Road
94: Outside S
95/E7/E9/E10: Greenford Broadway
92/282/E5: Outside G
173: Outside DX, on the slip road leading to it and halfway between two bus stops
366: Barking Town Centre
423: Lichfield Road
427: Hayes By-Pass
474: London City Airport
H91: Mix of Hounslow West and run light to HH
K5/X26: Cromwell Road

[Deleted]

Some from my recent experience:

133 at Streatham Hill, Telford Avenue
159 at Streatham Hill, Telford Avenue
249 at Tooting Bec Station
417 at Crown Point

[RM5chris]

Dec 17, 2013 21:02:53 GMT bigbaddom1981 said:

34 is now AD, was the Tesco when drivers were from LV/EC! Incidentally the 192 changes drivers at the Bounces Road since it moved to E - bizarre place to change over if you ask me!

In recent times, drivers on route 34 were always 'AD' drivers - only the buses were stabled at LV.

Prior to the closure of EC they would have been EC drivers.

[guybowden]

Dec 17, 2013 21:38:29 GMT M1104 said:

Dec 17, 2013 21:13:01 GMT guybowden said:

Most of the routes that serve Denmark Hill and Camberwell Road which are run out of Q and QB change at Camberwell Green.

QB don't do any routes that serve Camberwell Road and Denmark Hill. I take it you meant WL?

Yeah their garage which is opposite Q. I think it is the 35, 40 and 484 that change over there.

[sw11simon]

Dec 17, 2013 21:56:21 GMT someone said:

Some from my recent experience:

133 at Streatham Hill, Telford Avenue
159 at Streatham Hill, Telford Avenue
249 at Tooting Bec Station
417 at Crown Point

I'm sure the 249 now changes on the stand at Clapham Common since transfer to SW.
I'll so through Go-Ahead ones I know:

1: Grange Road/Dunton Road
11: Victoria Coach Station
12: Camberwell Green/Camberwell Road
14: Putney Station
19: A few at Hyde Park Corner East side (but most change on Battersea stand)
21: Outside NX garage
22: Lower Richmond Road/Putney High Street
36: Terminus
37: PM garage
39: Putney Station & Southfields Station
42: Bricklayers Arms
44: Tooting Broadway/Garratt Lane
45: Camberwell Green/Camberwell Road
63: Peckham Post Office (S) & Peckham Clayton Road (N)
68: Camberwell Green/Camberwell Road
74: Terminus daytimes. Putney Station evenings/Sundays (but not in service)
77: Tooting Broadway/Garratt Lane
80: Outside Sutton Bus Garage
85: Putney Station
87: Wandsworth Road/Lansdowne Way
88: Stockwell Station
89: Bexleyheath Garage
93: Morden Station
108: Terminus
118: Terminus
129:
132:
151: Sutton Green
154: Sutton Green
155: Tooting Broadway (Tooting High Street N & Upper Tooting Road S)
163: Terminus
164: Morden Station
170: Terminus
171: Outside NX garage
180: Terminus
185: Camberwell Green/Denmark Hill
196: Stockwell Station N/ Stockwell Garage S
200: Outside Merton Garage
201: Terminus
213: Terminus
219: Outside Merton Garage
225: New Cross Station
229: Outside BX Garage
244:
249: Terminus
270: Tooting Broadway/Garratt Lane
280: Tooting Broadway (Tooting High Street S, Mitcham Road N)
315: Terminus
321: Terminus
333: Stockwell, Clapham Road
337: Clapham Junction Station
345: Camberwell Green/Denmark Hill
355: Terminus
360: Vauxhall Bus Station
363: Peckham Post Office (S) & Peckham Clayton Road (N)
401: Terminus
413: Terminus
422: Terminus
424: Putney Station
430: Putney Station
436: Outside NX Garage
453: Old Kent Road Tesco
468: Camberwell Road/ Camberwell Green
485: Putney Lower Richmond Road or terminus
486: Terminus
493: Wimbledon Stadium (?)
507: Terminus
521: Terminus
B11: Terminus
B16: Terminus
G1: Garratt Lane/Wimbledon Road
Night routes: 12/N68 as per day routes. I believe NX has some changeovers outside the garage. In London General all night routes run in and out of the garage.
I'll leave East London to someone else!
Info correct as far as I know, but I left 1.5 years ago and may be slightly out of the loop of changes. I've left blanks where I am really not sure!

[Steve09]

132 has driver changeovers at terminus (Bexleyheath) from my observations

Plumstead routes that pass the garage (PD) have their driver changeovers outside the garage (I don't think I've ever been on a bus that has had a driver changeover which hasn't been travelling in the eastbound direction). This would be routes 96, 99, 177, 469, 472 of the top of my head, Whereas route 53 and 122 have changeovers at terminus.

I've seen Arriva DT do changeovers at Bexleyheath (B12, B13, B15) and Dartford Station (428, 492)

I'm not so sure about the 244. I would imagine they change at Abbey Wood station (terminus) but judging from the amount of dead 244s I see running to and fro BV during the day I wouldn't be to suprised if there were duties that end at the garage.

[M1104]

Dec 18, 2013 10:38:02 GMT sw11simon said:

Dec 17, 2013 21:56:21 GMT someone said:

Some from my recent experience:

133 at Streatham Hill, Telford Avenue
159 at Streatham Hill, Telford Avenue
249 at Tooting Bec Station
417 at Crown Point

I'm sure the 249 now changes on the stand at Clapham Common since transfer to SW.
I'll so through Go-Ahead ones I know:

1: Grange Road/Dunton Road
11: Victoria Coach Station
12: Camberwell Green/Camberwell Road
14: Putney Station
19: A few at Hyde Park Corner East side (but most change on Battersea stand)
21: Outside NX garage
22: Lower Richmond Road/Putney High Street
36: Terminus
37: PM garage
39: Putney Station & Southfields Station
42: Bricklayers Arms
44: Tooting Broadway/Garratt Lane
45: Camberwell Green/Camberwell Road
63: Peckham Post Office (S) & Peckham Clayton Road (N)
68: Camberwell Green/Camberwell Road
74: Terminus daytimes. Putney Station evenings/Sundays (but not in service)
77: Tooting Broadway/Garratt Lane
80: Outside Sutton Bus Garage
85: Putney Station
87: Wandsworth Road/Lansdowne Way
88: Stockwell Station
89: Bexleyheath Garage
93: Morden Station
108: Terminus
118: Terminus
129:
132:
151: Sutton Green
154: Sutton Green
155: Tooting Broadway (Tooting High Street N & Upper Tooting Road S)
163: Terminus
164: Morden Station
170: Terminus
171: Outside NX garage
180: Terminus
185: Camberwell Green/Denmark Hill
196: Stockwell Station N/ Stockwell Garage S
200: Outside Merton Garage
201: Terminus
213: Terminus
219: Outside Merton Garage
225: New Cross Station
229: Outside BX Garage
244:
249: Terminus
270: Tooting Broadway/Garratt Lane
280: Tooting Broadway (Tooting High Street S, Mitcham Road N)
315: Terminus
321: Terminus
333: Stockwell, Clapham Road
337: Clapham Junction Station
345: Camberwell Green/Denmark Hill
355: Terminus
360: Vauxhall Bus Station
363: Peckham Post Office (S) & Peckham Clayton Road (N)
401: Terminus
413: Terminus
422: Terminus
424: Putney Station
430: Putney Station
436: Outside NX Garage
453: Old Kent Road Tesco
468: Camberwell Road/ Camberwell Green
485: Putney Lower Richmond Road or terminus
486: Terminus
493: Wimbledon Stadium (?)
507: Terminus
521: Terminus
B11: Terminus
B16: Terminus
G1: Garratt Lane/Wimbledon Road
Night routes: 12/N68 as per day routes. I believe NX has some changeovers outside the garage. In London General all night routes run in and out of the garage.
I'll leave East London to someone else!
Info correct as far as I know, but I left 1.5 years ago and may be slightly out of the loop of changes. I've left blanks where I am really not sure!

I believe the 270 actually change drivers at Merton garage as I see them often running light along Western Road (although the blinds are set to 'Not in service' their running numbers are a giveaway). It was also the same with the 355 before it moved to Q.

Also, from late evenings I believe all AL's routes are still in theory crew changed inside the depot via light runnings, barring of course the 200 and 219.

[DT 11]

Dec 18, 2013 10:38:02 GMT sw11simon said:

Dec 17, 2013 21:56:21 GMT someone said:

Some from my recent experience:

133 at Streatham Hill, Telford Avenue
159 at Streatham Hill, Telford Avenue
249 at Tooting Bec Station
417 at Crown Point

I'm sure the 249 now changes on the stand at Clapham Common since transfer to SW.
I'll so through Go-Ahead ones I know:

1: Grange Road/Dunton Road
11: Victoria Coach Station
12: Camberwell Green/Camberwell Road
14: Putney Station
19: A few at Hyde Park Corner East side (but most change on Battersea stand)
21: Outside NX garage
22: Lower Richmond Road/Putney High Street
36: Terminus
37: PM garage
39: Putney Station & Southfields Station
42: Bricklayers Arms
44: Tooting Broadway/Garratt Lane
45: Camberwell Green/Camberwell Road
63: Peckham Post Office (S) & Peckham Clayton Road (N)
68: Camberwell Green/Camberwell Road
74: Terminus daytimes. Putney Station evenings/Sundays (but not in service)
77: Tooting Broadway/Garratt Lane
80: Outside Sutton Bus Garage
85: Putney Station
87: Wandsworth Road/Lansdowne Way
88: Stockwell Station
89: Bexleyheath Garage
93: Morden Station
108: Terminus
118: Terminus
129:
132:
151: Sutton Green
154: Sutton Green
155: Tooting Broadway (Tooting High Street N & Upper Tooting Road S)
163: Terminus
164: Morden Station
170: Terminus
171: Outside NX garage
180: Terminus
185: Camberwell Green/Denmark Hill
196: Stockwell Station N/ Stockwell Garage S
200: Outside Merton Garage
201: Terminus
213: Terminus
219: Outside Merton Garage
225: New Cross Station
229: Outside BX Garage
244:
249: Terminus
270: Tooting Broadway/Garratt Lane
280: Tooting Broadway (Tooting High Street S, Mitcham Road N)
315: Terminus
321: Terminus
333: Stockwell, Clapham Road
337: Clapham Junction Station
345: Camberwell Green/Denmark Hill
355: Terminus
360: Vauxhall Bus Station
363: Peckham Post Office (S) & Peckham Clayton Road (N)
401: Terminus
413: Terminus
422: Terminus
424: Putney Station
430: Putney Station
436: Outside NX Garage
453: Old Kent Road Tesco
468: Camberwell Road/ Camberwell Green
485: Putney Lower Richmond Road or terminus
486: Terminus
493: Wimbledon Stadium (?)
507: Terminus
521: Terminus
B11: Terminus
B16: Terminus
G1: Garratt Lane/Wimbledon Road
Night routes: 12/N68 as per day routes. I believe NX has some changeovers outside the garage. In London General all night routes run in and out of the garage.
I'll leave East London to someone else!
Info correct as far as I know, but I left 1.5 years ago and may be slightly out of the loop of changes. I've left blanks where I am really not sure!

129 - Cutty Sark
225 - Marquis of Granby - Not New Cross Station
321 - I think they run light into NX and change drivers.

[DT 11]

Dec 18, 2013 11:30:58 GMT Steve09 said:

132 has driver changeovers at terminus (Bexleyheath) from my observations

Plumstead routes that pass the garage (PD) have their driver changeovers outside the garage (I don't think I've ever been on a bus that has had a driver changeover which hasn't been travelling in the eastbound direction). This would be routes 96, 99, 177, 469, 472 of the top of my head, Whereas route 53 and 122 have changeovers at terminus.

I've seen Arriva DT do changeovers at Bexleyheath (B12, B13, B15) and Dartford Station (428, 492)

I'm not so sure about the 244. I would imagine they change at Abbey Wood station (terminus) but judging from the amount of dead 244s I see running to and fro BV during the day I wouldn't be to suprised if there were duties that end at the garage.

To Add on
160 - Eltham, High Street / Foots Cray Road

[jay38a]

Metrobus use ferry vehicles to left right and centre:

Route 233 - either Eltham or Swanley
Route 162 - Eltham
Routes 126, 138, 146, 336 and 352 - Bromley North
Route 320 - Keston Church
Route 464 - New Addington or AVI
Routes R1, R8, R11 and 358 - Outside Garage
Routes 353, B14, R2, R3, R4 and R9 - Orpington Station
Route 161 - Eltham or Chislehurst
Routes 181 and 284 - Lewisham

[Deleted]

Dec 18, 2013 10:38:02 GMT sw11simon said:

I'm sure the 249 now changes on the stand at Clapham Common since transfer to SW.

It is probably around a month since I last used the route as I use the 315 if nearer its departure time, but that is great news as the Tooting Bec changes were annoying in the middle of a round-the-corner journey.

[jay38a]

Dec 17, 2013 18:59:22 GMT DT 11 said:

Metrobus

Croydon Garage
54 - Elmers End
64 - Addington Village - MR
75 - Fairfield Halls
119 - Croydon Airport
127 - Purley Station
130 - Addington Village - MR
202 - Crystal Palace
293 - Morden
359 - Addington Village
405 - West Croydon
434 - Purley Station - MR
T32 - Addington Village
N64 - Addington Village - MR

Orpington Garage
126 - Bromley North - MR & Mon - Fri 45 Finishes at 12 and returns to the garage and 50 takes over at 12:22, this happens at Ringers Road, 45 returns at 15:00 at Ringers Road as the peak bus
138 - Bromley North
146 - Bromley North
161 - Eltham Station & Chislehurst
162 - Bromley Civic Centre
181 - Lewisham Station
233 - Eltham Station & Swanley, 285 finishes at 1 ?, 286 starts at 13:20? From Swanley. 285 returns at 14:50 at Eltham as the peak bus.
284 - Lewisham Station - 202, 204, 206, 209, 210 & 211 all return to the depot at some point in the day then return, off peak 8 buses are used 211 is only used in the AM & PM peaks.
320 - Keston Church - MR
336 - Bromley North - MR
352 - Bromley North
353 - Addington Village
358 - Green Street Green Bus Garage - MR
367 - Bromley North
464 - New Addington
B14 - Orpington Station
R1 - Green Street Green - Depot Runs
R2 - Orpington Station - MR
R3 - Orpington Station - MR
R4 - Orpington Station - MR
R6 - Orpington Station
R8 - Green Street Green Bus Garage
R9 - Orpington Station
R11 - Glentrammon Road

Bus 286 on the 233s comes out at 06:33, and goes back to the depot around 11ish, comes back out again at 13:00ish and I take it over at Eltham at around 16:00ish, and then have it all night until 00:35 at Eltham when it's taken back to the depot again.

[jay38a]

Dec 17, 2013 18:59:22 GMT DT 11 said:

Metrobus

Croydon Garage
54 - Elmers End
64 - Addington Village - MR
75 - Fairfield Halls
119 - Croydon Airport
127 - Purley Station
130 - Addington Village - MR
202 - Crystal Palace
293 - Morden
359 - Addington Village
405 - West Croydon
434 - Purley Station - MR
T32 - Addington Village
N64 - Addington Village - MR

Orpington Garage
126 - Bromley North - MR & Mon - Fri 45 Finishes at 12 and returns to the garage and 50 takes over at 12:22, this happens at Ringers Road, 45 returns at 15:00 at Ringers Road as the peak bus
138 - Bromley North
146 - Bromley North
161 - Eltham Station & Chislehurst
162 - Bromley Civic Centre
181 - Lewisham Station
233 - Eltham Station & Swanley, 285 finishes at 1 ?, 286 starts at 13:20? From Swanley. 285 returns at 14:50 at Eltham as the peak bus.
284 - Lewisham Station - 202, 204, 206, 209, 210 & 211 all return to the depot at some point in the day then return, off peak 8 buses are used 211 is only used in the AM & PM peaks.
320 - Keston Church - MR
336 - Bromley North - MR
352 - Bromley North
353 - Addington Village
358 - Green Street Green Bus Garage - MR
367 - Bromley North
464 - New Addington
B14 - Orpington Station
R1 - Green Street Green - Depot Runs
R2 - Orpington Station - MR
R3 - Orpington Station - MR
R4 - Orpington Station - MR
R6 - Orpington Station
R8 - Green Street Green Bus Garage
R9 - Orpington Station
R11 - Glentrammon Road

Bus 286 on the 233s comes out at 06:33, and goes back to the depot around 11ish, comes back out again at 13:00ish and I take it over at Eltham at around 16:00ish, and then have it all night until 00:35 at Eltham when it's taken back to the depot again.