Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2014 22:48:59 GMT
9,10 Hammersmith
57 Kingston
K2 Tolworth Stn
265 Dead to/from TV
65,71,131,216 Kingston or dead to/from FW
220 Dead to/from PK
148/C1/49 Most dead to/from S
272 Shepherds Bush Green stand
482 Think most are dead runs to/from Southall
H91 Dead to/from HH from Hounslow West
110 Twickenham Arragon Rd or dead to/from Twickenham
|
|
|
|
Post by COBO on Jan 3, 2014 22:52:34 GMT
9,10 Hammersmith 57 Kingston K2 Tolworth Stn 265 Dead to/from TV 65,71,131,216 Kingston or dead to/from FW 220 Dead to/from PK 148/C1/49 Most dead to/from S 272 Shepherds Bush Green stand 482 Think most are dead runs to/from Southall H91 Dead to/from HH from Hounslow West 110 Twickenham Arragon Rd or dead to/from Twickenham The 482's change over point is at Hatton Cross. |
|
|
|
Post by sw11simon on Jan 4, 2014 10:40:29 GMT
Some more: Go-ahead - nights N1 - at MW light from either end, BV buses don't change over N21 - BX buses don't change over (they run out of BX with 1 Driver for all of the shift). NX buses change over outside NX N89 - Outside BX garage N68 - Camberwell Green/Camberwell Road N108 - NX Garage (light from Lewisham) N171 - outside NX N321 - NX Garage (light from either end) N453 - Old Kent Road Tesco? Arriva DT: 286 - Eltham Station 160 - used to be at Queen Mary's Hosp, but I believe is now Eltham High Street?? All buses for the N453 were in and out the garage last time I was there a couple of years ago. The last changeover at Tesco was at about 22.00, the night drivers would bring their first bus in and take another one out, although the first couple of N453 designated journeys from Marylebone were operated by day drivers, running to garage from Deptford. All N453's also ran in at the end of the night shift, they nearly all did 2 round trips. |
|
|
|
Post by DT 11 on Jan 4, 2014 10:44:27 GMT
Some more: Go-ahead - nights N1 - at MW light from either end, BV buses don't change over N21 - BX buses don't change over (they run out of BX with 1 Driver for all of the shift). NX buses change over outside NX N89 - Outside BX garage N68 - Camberwell Green/Camberwell Road N108 - NX Garage (light from Lewisham) N171 - outside NX N321 - NX Garage (light from either end) N453 - Old Kent Road Tesco? Arriva DT: 286 - Eltham Station 160 - used to be at Queen Mary's Hosp, but I believe is now Eltham High Street?? 160 was QMH, was EHS and is Now Sidcup Station |
|
|
|
Post by southeastlondonbus on Jan 4, 2014 10:51:16 GMT
Interesting Thread MR = Mid Route Stagecoach Selkent Catford Garage 47 - Catford Bus Garage 124 - Catford Road / Lewisham Town Hall - MR 136 - Catford Bus Garage - MR 178 - Lewisham Station 199 - Catford Bus Garage 273 - Lewisham Tesco 354 - Bromley North 356 - Bell Green / Sainsburys - MR 380 - Lewisham, Shopping Centre P4 - Lewisham Station N47 - Catford Bus Garage - MR N136 - Catford Bus Garage - MR Bromley Garage 61 - Bromley Bus Garage - MR 208 - Bromley Common, The Crown - MR 227 - Bromley North 246 - Bromley North 261 - Bromley Bus Garage - MR 269 - Bromley North 314 - Bromley North & Bromley Town Hall - MR R5/R10 - Orpington Station R7 - No Idea yet Plumstead Bus Garage 51 - Woolwich 53 - Plumstead Bus Garage 96 - Plumstead Bus Garage - MR 99 - Plumstead Bus Garage - MR 122 - Plumstead Bus Garage 177 - Plumstead Bus Garage - MR 291 - QEH? 469 - Plumstead Bus Garage - MR 472 - Plumstead Bus Garage - MR 291 - can be Woolwich town centre or light running to and from QEH depending on the time of day. |
|
|
|
Post by Paul on Jan 4, 2014 11:13:09 GMT
I would add the ones I know but 'Metrobus' beat me to it in the first post! I would add though that I believe the R7 is at the Orpington terminus and the R5/R10 has changeovers at Green Street Green. I've not looked too closely at the new schedules but I'm pretty sure we're using ferry buses down to Green Street Green at some points during the day. I'll be able to relate some greater detail after I've done the new routes at the end of the week! Forgot that I was going to confirm the R route changeovers! The R7 is indeed on the Gravel Pit Way stand in Orpington. The R5/R10 has most of the changeovers at Orpington Station although there are live changeovers at The Queens Head in Green Street Green. In all cases ferry buses are used to get to and from the changeover points. Usually this is running number TB508 but TB509, TB210 and TB504 are also used. In TB504's case, the driver takes the ferry bus from Orpington Station directly to Beaverwood School to start service on the 638 |
|
|
|
Post by overgroundcommuter on Jan 5, 2014 17:43:23 GMT
Added this to the Turns and Observations page also, but it appears Route 37 is using the Nigel Road stop in Peckham Rye for Route 37 in addition to the garage on a more regular basis.
|
|
|
|
Post by Tangy on Jan 5, 2014 19:41:36 GMT
CT Plus 212 and W12 generally change over at the "Rail Replacement" bus stops on Selborne Road outside Walthamstow Central
|
|
|
|
Post by M1104 on Jan 6, 2014 20:17:04 GMT
Added this to the Turns and Observations page also, but it appears Route 37 is using the Nigel Road stop in Peckham Rye for Route 37 in addition to the garage on a more regular basis. I'm surprised they haven't done this a good while back as it saves on dead mileage between Peckham bus station and Peckham bus depot. |
|
|
|
Post by sw11simon on Jan 7, 2014 15:26:02 GMT
Added this to the Turns and Observations page also, but it appears Route 37 is using the Nigel Road stop in Peckham Rye for Route 37 in addition to the garage on a more regular basis. I'm surprised they haven't done this a good while back as it saves on dead mileage between Peckham bus station and Peckham bus depot. It may be more frequent for some reason, but that has been quite a regular curtailment ever since the route moved to Peckham years ago... I don't think SW ever used it (but a lot more buses turned around at Goose Green then...) Buses can start or finish from there. In my opinion it is a bit of a sloppy curtailment... the route should be structured better and changing drivers in the bus station, at least during the day time. The reason it changes at the garage is because there is no link from Peckham Bus Station to the garage, so the 37 creates a shuttle for staff. Bit of scheduling for operational convenience as opposed to customer convenience as the route would lose less mileage if it changed drivers in the bus station and make it more reliable (the garage turn around time withdrawn would give 15-17 minutes stand at the bus station, which is what SW buses used to generally have all those years ago.) |
|
|
|
Post by overgroundcommuter on Jan 7, 2014 21:08:26 GMT
I'm surprised they haven't done this a good while back as it saves on dead mileage between Peckham bus station and Peckham bus depot. It may be more frequent for some reason, but that has been quite a regular curtailment ever since the route moved to Peckham years ago... I don't think SW ever used it (but a lot more buses turned around at Goose Green then...) Buses can start or finish from there. In my opinion it is a bit of a sloppy curtailment... the route should be structured better and changing drivers in the bus station, at least during the day time. The reason it changes at the garage is because there is no link from Peckham Bus Station to the garage, so the 37 creates a shuttle for staff. Bit of scheduling for operational convenience as opposed to customer convenience as the route would lose less mileage if it changed drivers in the bus station and make it more reliable (the garage turn around time withdrawn would give 15-17 minutes stand at the bus station, which is what SW buses used to generally have all those years ago.) I remember the 37 used to have a stand in Spurling Road on Goose Green (which was also used by Route 176 when it terminated in East Dulwich at weekends) which was removed. Any bus that terminates at Goose Green now parks on Grove Vale on the bus lane which is a regular occurrence on the 40. |
|
|
|
Post by sw11simon on Jan 8, 2014 14:41:10 GMT
It may be more frequent for some reason, but that has been quite a regular curtailment ever since the route moved to Peckham years ago... I don't think SW ever used it (but a lot more buses turned around at Goose Green then...) Buses can start or finish from there. In my opinion it is a bit of a sloppy curtailment... the route should be structured better and changing drivers in the bus station, at least during the day time. The reason it changes at the garage is because there is no link from Peckham Bus Station to the garage, so the 37 creates a shuttle for staff. Bit of scheduling for operational convenience as opposed to customer convenience as the route would lose less mileage if it changed drivers in the bus station and make it more reliable (the garage turn around time withdrawn would give 15-17 minutes stand at the bus station, which is what SW buses used to generally have all those years ago.) I remember the 37 used to have a stand in Spurling Road on Goose Green (which was also used by Route 176 when it terminated in East Dulwich at weekends) which was removed. Any bus that terminates at Goose Green now parks on Grove Vale on the bus lane which is a regular occurrence on the 40. The 37 was one of the first routes I drove regularly back when it went along Melbourne Grove (which was a nightmare if you met another bus or lorry on the blind bend with no parking restrictions!) and I was never aware of the Spurling Road stand then, not that I am saying it did not exist ...it was quite possibly there but SW never really told us and I probably never looked at a route record back then (it was all a bit more sloppily managed then compared to now) just was not aware of it. We all used to park up in Lordship Lane back then, I am talking 1996-1997. So it would have certainly counted as a hidden away one!! |
|
|
|
Post by ThinLizzy on Jan 8, 2014 15:31:50 GMT
I'll list routes from East London from what I know of: Route 5 - Outside BK Route 15 - Aldgate Station Routes 20, 257 and 357 - Walthamstow Bus Station (357 does changeovers outside the station towards Whipps Cross) Route 25 - Bow Church Route 26 - Hackney Wick Route 30 - Hackney Wick Route 34 - Palmers Green Route 48 - Leyton Bakers Arms Route 55 - Leyton Bus Garage Route 56 - Leyton Bakers Arms Route 58 - Leyton Library (Towards East Ham); Leyton Station (Towards Walthamstow) Routes 69 & 330 - Canning Town Bus Station (Sundays buses run light to WH) Route 86 - Romford Station Route 97 - Leyton Green (If on a T bus); Stratford City for WH buses; WH buses run light on Sundays Route 101 - East Ham Newham Town Hall Routes 104, 158, 238, 262 & 473 - Stratford Bus Station (Sundays buses run light to WH) Route 115 - Canning Town Bus Station Route 145 - Outside BK Route 147 - Buses run light from Prince Regent (Canning Town would be normal changeover when route returns there) Route 215 - Walthamstow Central Route 230 - Tottenham Bus Garage Route 212 - Outside Walthamstow Bus Station Route 275 - Outside Walthamstow Bus Station (Buses run light from St James Street on Sundays to T) Route 276 - Stratford Centre (Towards Stoke Newington); Stratford Bus Station (Towards Newham Hospital) Route 277 - Mile End Station Routes 308 & W15 - Outside LI Route 339 - Stratford City Bus Station Route W14 - Leyton Superstores Route W16 - Leyton Green
169 London Road bus stand (runs back to BK evenings and Sundays)
366 "Barking Town Centre" (runs back to BK from Beckton evenings and Sundays)
396 At BK
When the 364 was operated by BK handovers took place at Martins Corner
|
|
|
|
Post by I-Azusio-I on Jan 8, 2014 15:46:39 GMT
Route D7: Island Gardens Station
|
|
|
|
Post by overgroundcommuter on Jan 8, 2014 19:14:47 GMT
I remember the 37 used to have a stand in Spurling Road on Goose Green (which was also used by Route 176 when it terminated in East Dulwich at weekends) which was removed. Any bus that terminates at Goose Green now parks on Grove Vale on the bus lane which is a regular occurrence on the 40. The 37 was one of the first routes I drove regularly back when it went along Melbourne Grove (which was a nightmare if you met another bus or lorry on the blind bend with no parking restrictions!) and I was never aware of the Spurling Road stand then, not that I am saying it did not exist ...it was quite possibly there but SW never really told us and I probably never looked at a route record back then (it was all a bit more sloppily managed then compared to now) just was not aware of it. We all used to park up in Lordship Lane back then, I am talking 1996-1997. So it would have certainly counted as a hidden away one!! The stand on Spurling Road was right next to the EDT pub by the roundabout. Drivers would have to turn into Lordship Lane, then Crawthew Grove into Spurling Road. It was probably axed due to local resident concerns about double decker buses using suburban roads which led to the 63 being able to turn in nearby Forest Hill Road instead of the back streets in Honor Oak. Regarding Melbourne Grove, that street is pretty tight, but nothing compared to what 363 drivers have to contend with on Underhill Road! |
|
