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Post by wivenswold on Feb 22, 2014 5:59:31 GMT
On certain routes (the 25 for example) the Bendies were ideal. They should have stayed on some routes but that was a political decision and therefore not based on any real logic. It surely makes sense to buy buses that suit each individual route.
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Post by marlon101 on Feb 22, 2014 8:20:54 GMT
Surely the more doors you have, the shorter the dwell time? Simple physics. Not necessarily. Depends how long said doors are open... One exit open all the time can and often would lead to rather short dwell times as people popped off the bus whenever it was stationary. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2014 10:12:52 GMT
Surely the more doors you have, the shorter the dwell time? Simple physics. Not necessarily. Depends how long said doors are open... One exit open all the time can and often would lead to rather short dwell times as people popped off the bus whenever it was stationary. When I used route 11 a few weeks back I was amazed how many people boarded the first door. I think passengers I confused by the different boarding methods. |
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Post by vjaska on Feb 22, 2014 17:19:28 GMT
On certain routes (the 25 for example) the Bendies were ideal. They should have stayed on some routes but that was a political decision and therefore not based on any real logic. It surely makes sense to buy buses that suit each individual route. Artics are only ideal for short shuttle routes like the 507 & 521. The majority of passengers prefer to sit rather than stand and be congested together like what regularly happened on Artic routes. I used the 25 under the Artics and it was a dreadful experience. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2014 18:11:49 GMT
On certain routes (the 25 for example) the Bendies were ideal. They should have stayed on some routes but that was a political decision and therefore not based on any real logic. It surely makes sense to buy buses that suit each individual route. Artics are only ideal for short shuttle routes like the 507 & 521. The majority of passengers prefer to sit rather than stand and be congested together like what regularly happened on Artic routes. I used the 25 under the Artics and it was a dreadful experience. I bet it felt like being on a Tube Train? But certainly the 25 should test out some tri-axles. |
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Post by snoggle on Feb 22, 2014 18:52:36 GMT
Surely the more doors you have, the shorter the dwell time? Simple physics. Not really. Marlon101 has beaten me to the point but it depends entirely on the operational practice and what you are allowed to do at each door. All I was saying was that when it comes to the door layout on London buses and dwell times there are loads of opinions as to what layout works "best" based almost entirely on personal prejudice and devoid of any facts whatsoever. Therefore to say the NB4L is better than a Dart or a Bendy or a Volvo hybrid or a Routemaster is almost meaningless unless you or any of us can produce some objective comparative data. I can't find any such data nor can I recall TfL ever publishing it in a meaningful way. |
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Post by sw11simon on Feb 23, 2014 8:14:03 GMT
Apparently, none of the 9's NBfL's stay on the road for more than a week at a time - if true, then it doesn't bode well for it in terms of reliability. sounds sh88 ! , at snowman, the last time I remember the B5LH being the most reliable hybrid with 97% I have no figures for this but I was at Camberwell when route 12 converted from bendy bus. I was a spare driver but drove route 12 quite a lot. I do not know of a WHV breaking down at all (although I have no doubt it has happened). They were extremely reliable from new. I did experience a minor fault sometimes where odd buses would not "stall" when stopped and then pull off in electric only as they should, but this was not something that disabled the bus and the engine just remained running at all times (with an error message but nothing that meant the bus had to be taken out of service.) I also found them extremely nice to drive and they were popular amongst drivers generally. Now this may have changed as I left nearly two years ago now, but the B5LH strikes me as an extremely reliable and well built bus. |
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Post by moz on Apr 24, 2014 15:33:38 GMT
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Post by snoggle on Apr 24, 2014 18:34:03 GMT
Looks like the Ecuadorians have beaten the UK to it! Moz I trust TfL, Heatherwick Studios and Wrightbus will be launching legal action for such rampant copying of their designs.  Where did you find the photos of that? |
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Post by M1104 on Apr 24, 2014 20:23:17 GMT
Is that a real photo or a customised edit?
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Post by ServerKing on Apr 24, 2014 20:50:50 GMT
I liked OP's first drawing of the 2 door NBFL - the front windscreen reminds me of the ECW-bodied Bristol VR's that used to be on the Isle of Wight  Good photoshop Moz! I looked at the Ecuadorian operator Cotratudossa's site, and I cannot find this Wright-bodied 'Volksbus' (apparently VW's bus production arm) anywhere (though this could explain where LT2 got to)... they do have one of these hideous things...  No photoshop involved, this monstrosity looks like a cross between an Enviro 400 and an SLE from the 267  See them here at www.cotratudossa.com  |
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Post by moz on Apr 25, 2014 2:03:30 GMT
I liked OP's first drawing of the 2 door NBFL - the front windscreen reminds me of the ECW-bodied Bristol VR's that used to be on the Isle of Wight Good photoshop Moz! I looked at the Ecuadorian operator Cotratudossa's site, and I cannot find this Wright-bodied 'Volksbus' (apparently VW's bus production arm) anywhere (though this could explain where LT2 got to)... they do have one of these hideous things... No photoshop involved, this monstrosity looks like a cross between an Enviro 400 and an SLE from the 267 See them here at www.cotratudossa.com No photoshop involved, it's the real deal, though apparently quite new which is why it's not on the operators website yet. Moz |
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Post by ServerKing on Apr 25, 2014 6:45:08 GMT
So it's an NBFE (New Bus for Ecuador) then?  |
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Post by VPL630 on Jun 22, 2014 11:09:43 GMT
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Post by ServerKing on Jun 22, 2014 13:26:12 GMT
The air chiller won't have to work as hard on that one And any tight corners won't be an issue if LG want to order them for the 192 or 88 |
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Where did you find the photos of that?
