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Post by rugbyref on Jul 20, 2022 16:46:56 GMT
I was bored once and worked out an itinerary. I think it started off with the first R8 of the morning in Biggin Hill and ended with a pint in the Five Bells at Chelsfield! I think we both posted itineraries, if someone can track down those posts in the archives.
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Post by BE37054 (quoll662) on Jul 20, 2022 17:03:09 GMT
That set me thinking as how best to do all R1-R11 routes end to end most efficiently. Here goes with my suggestion. R8 Orpington Stn (you will be here a few times!) to end of route in Biggin Hill walk forward to stop in Lebanon Gardens R2 to Biggin Hill East Hill R2 to Orpington Walnuts centre walk to Orpington High Street R11to Green Street Green Rose & Crown end of route cross over road R1 to Orpington Stn R9 circular to Orp Stn R1 to St Pauls Cray end of route walk down Midfield Way R11 to Queen Mary’s Hospital R11 to Orpington High St McD’s R1/3/6/9 51 to Orp Stn R6 to St Mary Cray Stn walk to Sevenoaks Way 51/R1 B14/to Orp Stn R3 to Princess Royal Hospital R4 to Pauls Cray Hill R4 to St Mary Cray High St walk through Nugent Centre 51/R1/B14 to Orp Stn R5/R10 circular R10/R5 circular walk down Station Approach to the Maxwell 61 to Chislehurst R7 to Chelsfield Village. Anyone prepared to try that. That set me thinking as how best to do all R1-R11 routes end to end most efficiently. Here goes with my suggestion I’ve no idea if it’s the most efficient way of doing it - I suspect there may be a few ways of doing it - but since I’m at the changeover point for my bus a bit early I worked out an itinerary based on your suggestion. It’s based on weekday times and requires some VERY tight connections and ends up needing half an hour in the pub at Chelsfield to wait for an R7 going around the Chelsfield loop since the R7 you end up on at Chislehurst terminates at the Five Bells! Here’s the itinerary: R8 - 0630 Orpington Bus Station Arrive Biggin Hill Post Office 0659 R2 - 0733 Biggin Hill Post Office Arrive Biggin Hill East Hill 0740 R2 - 0746 Biggin Hill East Hill Arrive Orpington Walnuts Centre 0825 Walk to Orpington War Memorial Arrive 0828 R11 - 0831 Orpington War Memorial Arrive Green Street Green 0841 R1 - 0852 Green Street Green Arrive Orpington Station 0909 R9 - 0909 Orpington Station Arrive Orpington Station 0939 R1 - 0948 Orpington Station Arrive St Paul’s Cray Grovelands 1015 Walk to Midfield Way Arrive 1019 R11 - 1020 Midfield Way Arrive Queen Mary’s Hospital 1032 R11 - 1043 Queen Marys Hospital Arrive Orpington War Memorial 1117 Walk to Orpington Station Arrive 1129 R6 - 1156 Orpington Station Arrive St Mary Cray Station 1222 R1 - 1222 St Mary Cray Station Arrive Orpington Station 1237 R3 - 1247 Orpington Station Arrive PRU 1335 R4 - 1350 PRU Arrive Paul’s Cray Hill 1437 R4 - 1439 Paul’s Cray Hill Arrive Orpington Station 1505 R5 - 1547 Orpington Station Arrive Orpington Station 1658 R10 - 1706 Orpington Station Arrive Orpington Station 1814 Walk Tubbenden Lane Arrive 1817 61 - 1828 Tubbenden Lane Arrive Chislehurst Sainsburys 1849 R7 - Chislehurst Sainsburys 1859 Arrive Chelsfield Village 1948 R7 - 2015 Chelsfield Village Arrive Orpington Station 2032 An alternative ending would be the 1843 R7 from Tubbenden Lane and ride that around Chelsfield and on to Chislehurst arriving at 1943. But then you don’t get half an hour in the Five Bells! 😉 So rugbyref , you’ve made the plan and I’ve made the itinerary. We just need someone crazy enough to go and do it now! 😂 If you plan it properly, you could do R1-R11 e2e all on 1 day. Accept the challenge? Depends. Would you need to get both the R5 and R10? Okay so I'd go for R6, R4, R3, R5/10, R8, R2, R9 (both ways), 51 to R1 terminus, R1, R11, R7. I was bored once and worked out an itinerary. I think it started off with the first R8 of the morning in Biggin Hill and ended with a pint in the Five Bells at Chelsfield! I think we both posted itineraries, if someone can track down those posts in the archives.
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Post by ronnie on Jul 20, 2022 23:13:30 GMT
Did the 46, 63 and 244 end to end today. Latest list is as follows
Routes which I have done end to end: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 15H, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 25 (the epic 2 hour 20 min journey), 26, 29, 35, 36, 37, 38, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 71, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 81, 83, 86, 87, 89, 96, 97, 98, 99, 100, 101, 102, 104, 105, 106, 108, 109, 111, 112, 113, 115, 122, 123, 126, 128, 129, 130, 132, 133, 134, 135, 136, 137, 139, 140, 141, 142, 143, 145, 147, 148, 149, 150, 153, 158, 159, 160, 161, 162, 165, 166, 167, 168, 169, 171, 172, 173, 176, 177, 178, 180, 181, 185, 188, 189, 192, 194, 199, 202, 205, 208, 209, 210, 211, 214, 217, 221, 225, 227, 229, 236, 238, 240, 241, 242, 243, 244, 245, 246, 249, 250, 251, 253, 254, 257, 258, 259, 260, 262, 264, 266, 269, 271, 276, 277, 279, 284, 285, 286, 287, 291, 296, 297, 298, 300, 301, 304, 309, 312, 313, 319, 320, 321, 323, 325, 328, 329, 330, 333, 335, 337, 339, 340, 341, 343, 344, 345, 349, 360, 362, 363, 366, 368, 370, 371, 372, 375, 376, 378, 380, 381, 386, 388, 390, 394, 397, 401, 406, 417, 422, 432, 433, 436, 450, 453, 465, 466, 468, 472, 473, 474, 484, 486, 488, 492, 498, 507, 521, 549, A10, B11, B13, B16, C10, D3, D6, D7, D8, EL2, H91, N11, N15, N25, N38, N550, P4, P12, RV1, U3, X26
Buses used partially: 24, 28, 56, 92, 103, 156, 170, 184, 206, 220, 232, 244, 261, 414, 485, H12, N18, N171, N277, N551
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Post by ronnie on Jul 20, 2022 23:19:07 GMT
That set me thinking as how best to do all R1-R11 routes end to end most efficiently. Here goes with my suggestion. R8 Orpington Stn (you will be here a few times!) to end of route in Biggin Hill walk forward to stop in Lebanon Gardens R2 to Biggin Hill East Hill R2 to Orpington Walnuts centre walk to Orpington High Street R11to Green Street Green Rose & Crown end of route cross over road R1 to Orpington Stn R9 circular to Orp Stn R1 to St Pauls Cray end of route walk down Midfield Way R11 to Queen Mary’s Hospital R11 to Orpington High St McD’s R1/3/6/9 51 to Orp Stn R6 to St Mary Cray Stn walk to Sevenoaks Way 51/R1 B14/to Orp Stn R3 to Princess Royal Hospital R4 to Pauls Cray Hill R4 to St Mary Cray High St walk through Nugent Centre 51/R1/B14 to Orp Stn R5/R10 circular R10/R5 circular walk down Station Approach to the Maxwell 61 to Chislehurst R7 to Chelsfield Village. Anyone prepared to try that. I’ve no idea if it’s the most efficient way of doing it - I suspect there may be a few ways of doing it - but since I’m at the changeover point for my bus a bit early I worked out an itinerary based on your suggestion. It’s based on weekday times and requires some VERY tight connections and ends up needing half an hour in the pub at Chelsfield to wait for an R7 going around the Chelsfield loop since the R7 you end up on at Chislehurst terminates at the Five Bells! Here’s the itinerary: R8 - 0630 Orpington Bus Station Arrive Biggin Hill Post Office 0659 R2 - 0733 Biggin Hill Post Office Arrive Biggin Hill East Hill 0740 R2 - 0746 Biggin Hill East Hill Arrive Orpington Walnuts Centre 0825 Walk to Orpington War Memorial Arrive 0828 R11 - 0831 Orpington War Memorial Arrive Green Street Green 0841 R1 - 0852 Green Street Green Arrive Orpington Station 0909 R9 - 0909 Orpington Station Arrive Orpington Station 0939 R1 - 0948 Orpington Station Arrive St Paul’s Cray Grovelands 1015 Walk to Midfield Way Arrive 1019 R11 - 1020 Midfield Way Arrive Queen Mary’s Hospital 1032 R11 - 1043 Queen Marys Hospital Arrive Orpington War Memorial 1117 Walk to Orpington Station Arrive 1129 R6 - 1156 Orpington Station Arrive St Mary Cray Station 1222 R1 - 1222 St Mary Cray Station Arrive Orpington Station 1237 R3 - 1247 Orpington Station Arrive PRU 1335 R4 - 1350 PRU Arrive Paul’s Cray Hill 1437 R4 - 1439 Paul’s Cray Hill Arrive Orpington Station 1505 R5 - 1547 Orpington Station Arrive Orpington Station 1658 R10 - 1706 Orpington Station Arrive Orpington Station 1814 Walk Tubbenden Lane Arrive 1817 61 - 1828 Tubbenden Lane Arrive Chislehurst Sainsburys 1849 R7 - Chislehurst Sainsburys 1859 Arrive Chelsfield Village 1948 R7 - 2015 Chelsfield Village Arrive Orpington Station 2032 An alternative ending would be the 1843 R7 from Tubbenden Lane and ride that around Chelsfield and on to Chislehurst arriving at 1943. But then you don’t get half an hour in the Five Bells! 😉 So rugbyref , you’ve made the plan and I’ve made the itinerary. We just need someone crazy enough to go and do it now! 😂 Depends. Would you need to get both the R5 and R10? Okay so I'd go for R6, R4, R3, R5/10, R8, R2, R9 (both ways), 51 to R1 terminus, R1, R11, R7. I think we both posted itineraries, if someone can track down those posts in the archives. Getting to Orpington station at 06:30 when you are married with kids is a tough job
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Post by Busboy105 on Jul 21, 2022 6:20:40 GMT
If I lived more local to Orpington I'd do it
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Post by mkay315 on Jul 21, 2022 9:54:41 GMT
I forgot to add the 246, 320, 208 149, 78, 26, 388 (all variations), 464, 270, 355, 118, 55, 54, 65, 41, 17, W7, 76, 254, 253, 30 and the 323. If I can remember anymore then I'll add. Of course how could I forget. 44 and 77. I forgot to add the 240 as well I can add the 51 to the list (this one was a personal achievement for me) as I've been wanting to do this full route stretching back to 2008 when it was with London Central with its hard seats PVLs 😂😂
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Post by Paul on Jul 21, 2022 10:13:10 GMT
Won’t quote it all but I think my itinerary might well be out of date - the R7 trips were based on the timetable when TB were running it. You might not get the half an hour in the Five Bells now 😉 That said, thanks to TfL’s disgraceful abandonment of the Maypole loop and the small but regular number of passengers, that section of the route won’t need, or be able, to be done from this Saturday anyway
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Post by ronnie on Jul 21, 2022 10:46:49 GMT
Won’t quote it all but I think my itinerary might well be out of date - the R7 trips were based on the timetable when TB were running it. You might not get the half an hour in the Five Bells now 😉 That said, thanks to TfL’s disgraceful abandonment of the Maypole loop and the small but regular number of passengers, that section of the route won’t need, or be able, to be done from this Saturday anyway Looks very nice I must say, the pub. Worth the journey Off topic but I remember going to the Mayfly pub in Stockbridge in august 2020 on my way to Cornwall. Ended up staying for 2 hours which annoyingly resulted in us reaching Cornwall well past 10pm!
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Post by BE37054 (quoll662) on Jul 21, 2022 16:54:32 GMT
Won’t quote it all but I think my itinerary might well be out of date - the R7 trips were based on the timetable when TB were running it. You might not get the half an hour in the Five Bells now 😉 That said, thanks to TfL’s disgraceful abandonment of the Maypole loop and the small but regular number of passengers, that section of the route won’t need, or be able, to be done from this Saturday anyway Made another itinerary. The R10 is done first so omits the Walnuts Centre section, hope that's okay. The loop is done on the R5 though alongside many others. R10 - 0701 Orpington Station Arrive Orp Station 0804 R4 - 0814 Orp Station Arrive PRU 0835 R3 - 0846 PRU Arrive Orp Station 0935 R4 - 0946 Orp Station Arrive St Pauls Cray Hill 1013 Over the River Cray, a quick break for a bite to eat then 51 - 1043 St Pauls Cray Arrive Orp High Street 1052 R2 - 1103 Orp Homefield Rise Arrive Biggin Hill, Melody Road 1133 Walk to Sunningvale Avenue then 464 - 1146 Biggin Hill Valley Arrive Black Horse 1151 R8 - 1215 Biggin Hill, Black Horse Arrive Orp Station 1256 R5 - 1318 Orp Station Arrive Orp Station 1422 R9 - 1436 Orp Station Arrive Orp Station 1506 R6 - 1523 Orp Station Arrive St Mary Cray Station 1553 R11 - 1600 St Mary Cray Station Arrive Queen Mary's Hosp 1620 B14 - 1625 Queen Mary's Hosp Arrive St Pauls Cray, Midfield Way 1632 R1 - 1646 St Pauls Cray Grovelands Arrive Green Street Green 1731 R11 - 1736 Green Street Green Arrive St Mary Cray Station 1758 R11 - 1803 St Mary Cray Station Arrive Orp High Street 1813 R7 - 1817 Orp High Street Arrive Chelsfield Village 1827 R7 - 1837 Chelsfield Village Arrive Chislehurst Sainsbury's 1924 You could get the 273 from St Mary Cray at 1818, arrive Chislehurst 1830 and get the R7 to Chelsfield at 1839 arriving 1924.
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Post by ronnie on Jul 27, 2022 17:14:16 GMT
Did the 124, 233, 428, 469 and B12 end to end today. Latest list is as follows
Routes which I have done end to end: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 15H, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 25 (the epic 2 hour 20 min journey), 26, 29, 35, 36, 37, 38, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 71, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 81, 83, 86, 87, 89, 96, 97, 98, 99, 100, 101, 102, 104, 105, 106, 108, 109, 111, 112, 113, 115, 122, 123, 124, 126, 128, 129, 130, 132, 133, 134, 135, 136, 137, 139, 140, 141, 142, 143, 145, 147, 148, 149, 150, 153, 158, 159, 160, 161, 162, 165, 166, 167, 168, 169, 171, 172, 173, 176, 177, 178, 180, 181, 185, 188, 189, 192, 194, 199, 202, 205, 208, 209, 210, 211, 214, 217, 221, 225, 227, 229, 233, 236, 238, 240, 241, 242, 243, 244, 245, 246, 249, 250, 251, 253, 254, 257, 258, 259, 260, 262, 264, 266, 269, 271, 276, 277, 279, 284, 285, 286, 287, 291, 296, 297, 298, 300, 301, 304, 309, 312, 313, 319, 320, 321, 323, 325, 328, 329, 330, 333, 335, 337, 339, 340, 341, 343, 344, 345, 349, 360, 362, 363, 366, 368, 370, 371, 372, 375, 376, 378, 380, 381, 386, 388, 390, 394, 397, 401, 406, 417, 422, 428, 432, 433, 436, 450, 453, 465, 466, 468, 469, 472, 473, 474, 484, 486, 488, 492, 498, 507, 521, 549, A10, B11, B12, B13, B16, C10, D3, D6, D7, D8, EL2, H91, N11, N15, N25, N38, N550, P4, P12, RV1, U3, X26
Buses used partially: 24, 28, 56, 92, 103, 156, 170, 184, 206, 220, 232, 261, 414, 485, H12, N18, N171, N277, N551
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Post by mondraker275 on Jul 28, 2022 7:33:33 GMT
Did the 124, 233, 428, 469 and B12 end to end today. Latest list is as follows Routes which I have done end to end: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 15H, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 25 (the epic 2 hour 20 min journey), 26, 29, 35, 36, 37, 38, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 71, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 81, 83, 86, 87, 89, 96, 97, 98, 99, 100, 101, 102, 104, 105, 106, 108, 109, 111, 112, 113, 115, 122, 123, 124, 126, 128, 129, 130, 132, 133, 134, 135, 136, 137, 139, 140, 141, 142, 143, 145, 147, 148, 149, 150, 153, 158, 159, 160, 161, 162, 165, 166, 167, 168, 169, 171, 172, 173, 176, 177, 178, 180, 181, 185, 188, 189, 192, 194, 199, 202, 205, 208, 209, 210, 211, 214, 217, 221, 225, 227, 229, 233, 236, 238, 240, 241, 242, 243, 244, 245, 246, 249, 250, 251, 253, 254, 257, 258, 259, 260, 262, 264, 266, 269, 271, 276, 277, 279, 284, 285, 286, 287, 291, 296, 297, 298, 300, 301, 304, 309, 312, 313, 319, 320, 321, 323, 325, 328, 329, 330, 333, 335, 337, 339, 340, 341, 343, 344, 345, 349, 360, 362, 363, 366, 368, 370, 371, 372, 375, 376, 378, 380, 381, 386, 388, 390, 394, 397, 401, 406, 417, 422, 428, 432, 433, 436, 450, 453, 465, 466, 468, 469, 472, 473, 474, 484, 486, 488, 492, 498, 507, 521, 549, A10, B11, B12, B13, B16, C10, D3, D6, D7, D8, EL2, H91, N11, N15, N25, N38, N550, P4, P12, RV1, U3, X26 Buses used partially: 24, 28, 56, 92, 103, 156, 170, 184, 206, 220, 232, 261, 414, 485, H12, N18, N171, N277, N551 Are you avoiding the W routes W3 and W4 probably the best two to tick off sooner rather than later.
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Post by rugbyref on Jul 28, 2022 8:19:53 GMT
Won’t quote it all but I think my itinerary might well be out of date - the R7 trips were based on the timetable when TB were running it. You might not get the half an hour in the Five Bells now 😉 That said, thanks to TfL’s disgraceful abandonment of the Maypole loop and the small but regular number of passengers, that section of the route won’t need, or be able, to be done from this Saturday anyway Made another itinerary. The R10 is done first so omits the Walnuts Centre section, hope that's okay. The loop is done on the R5 though alongside many others. R10 - 0701 Orpington Station Arrive Orp Station 0804 R4 - 0814 Orp Station Arrive PRU 0835 R3 - 0846 PRU Arrive Orp Station 0935 R4 - 0946 Orp Station Arrive St Pauls Cray Hill 1013 Over the River Cray, a quick break for a bite to eat then 51 - 1043 St Pauls Cray Arrive Orp High Street 1052 R2 - 1103 Orp Homefield Rise Arrive Biggin Hill, Melody Road 1133 Walk to Sunningvale Avenue then 464 - 1146 Biggin Hill Valley Arrive Black Horse 1151 R8 - 1215 Biggin Hill, Black Horse Arrive Orp Station 1256 R5 - 1318 Orp Station Arrive Orp Station 1422 R9 - 1436 Orp Station Arrive Orp Station 1506 R6 - 1523 Orp Station Arrive St Mary Cray Station 1553 R11 - 1600 St Mary Cray Station Arrive Queen Mary's Hosp 1620 B14 - 1625 Queen Mary's Hosp Arrive St Pauls Cray, Midfield Way 1632 R1 - 1646 St Pauls Cray Grovelands Arrive Green Street Green 1731 R11 - 1736 Green Street Green Arrive St Mary Cray Station 1758 R11 - 1803 St Mary Cray Station Arrive Orp High Street 1813 R7 - 1817 Orp High Street Arrive Chelsfield Village 1827 R7 - 1837 Chelsfield Village Arrive Chislehurst Sainsbury's 1924 You could get the 273 from St Mary Cray at 1818, arrive Chislehurst 1830 and get the R7 to Chelsfield at 1839 arriving 1924. Great itinerary. Has anyone ever worked out similar options for all the E or W routes?
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Post by Busboy105 on Jul 28, 2022 17:05:57 GMT
The W routes might be a little tricky considering they're spread out so much
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Post by COBO on Jul 28, 2022 20:19:46 GMT
The W routes might be a little tricky considering they're spread out so much Most of them are at Brent Cross, Cricklewood and Archway.
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Post by BE37054 (quoll662) on Jul 28, 2022 20:23:18 GMT
The W routes might be a little tricky considering they're spread out so much Most of them are at Brent Cross, Cricklewood and Archway. Eh??? To my knowledge none run to the first two and only 1 to Archway. Most of them meet at Walthamstow or Crews Hill or Finsbury park if my memory serves me well.
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