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Post by Eastlondoner62 on May 22, 2014 19:58:01 GMT
Well, I guess Optare have done a bit of their magic to the rear of the bus
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Post by COBO on May 23, 2014 14:08:30 GMT
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Post by snowman on May 23, 2014 17:33:27 GMT
Optare have now uploaded the pdf with specs www.optare.com/op_metrodecker.htmPowered by a 170KW 5.1 litre Mercedes engine. Top speed 99 km/h (about 61mph) with stall on 30% grade, which is a fairly steep hill. As someone is boind to ask it has a ZF ecolife 6 speed gearbox engine power graphsLength is 10500mm and has 63 seats and 36 standing to TfL spec (99 passengers) Therefore would be possible to increase capacity by about 14% with same number of buses, or cut pvr by 10% and maintain capacity which ought to make it competitive |
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Post by ServerKing on May 23, 2014 19:30:35 GMT
Optare have now uploaded the pdf with specs www.optare.com/op_metrodecker.htmPowered by a 170KW 5.1 litre Mercedes engine. Top speed 99 km/h (about 61mph) with stall on 30% grade, which is a fairly steep hill. As someone is boind to ask it has a ZF ecolife 6 speed gearbox Length is 10500mm and has 63 seats and 36 standing to TfL spec (99 passengers) Therefore would be possible to increase capacity by about 14% with same number of buses, or cut pvr by 10% and maintain capacity which ought to make it competitive Perhaps I've been too harsh on the MetroDecker... Having looked at the brochure, they have put a lot of effort into this bus... I may not like the rear window, but I like the hint of Tempo in it with the headlights and the dashboard layout and tech looks impressive  No Voith option just yet  Interesting as it shares the same engine as the new Wrightbus StreetDeck |
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Post by VPL630 on May 23, 2014 19:37:03 GMT
Optare have now uploaded the pdf with specs www.optare.com/op_metrodecker.htmPowered by a 170KW 5.1 litre Mercedes engine. Top speed 99 km/h (about 61mph) with stall on 30% grade, which is a fairly steep hill. As someone is boind to ask it has a ZF ecolife 6 speed gearbox Length is 10500mm and has 63 seats and 36 standing to TfL spec (99 passengers) Therefore would be possible to increase capacity by about 14% with same number of buses, or cut pvr by 10% and maintain capacity which ought to make it competitive 230ish HP, Needs more POWER!!!!!!!! |
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Post by snoggle on May 23, 2014 19:42:14 GMT
Optare have now uploaded the pdf with specs www.optare.com/op_metrodecker.htmPowered by a 170KW 5.1 litre Mercedes engine. Top speed 99 km/h (about 61mph) with stall on 30% grade, which is a fairly steep hill. As someone is boind to ask it has a ZF ecolife 6 speed gearbox Length is 10500mm and has 63 seats and 36 standing to TfL spec (99 passengers) Therefore would be possible to increase capacity by about 14% with same number of buses, or cut pvr by 10% and maintain capacity which ought to make it competitive 230ish HP, Needs more POWER!!!!!!!! Presumably a more powerful version would come with a) lead footed driver b) broken exhaust to increase noise c) specially embroidered rear seat moquette with "DW498 sits here" on it d) specially retractable video camera stand    |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2014 19:54:20 GMT
99 people? That's unexpected, and seriously impressive. that could be the thing that makes this bus a major player, especially in London - not so much in the provincial market though, I expect. I reckon the E400MMC has the edge there.
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Post by VPL630 on May 23, 2014 19:59:28 GMT
230ish HP, Needs more POWER!!!!!!!! Presumably a more powerful version would come with a) lead footed driver b) broken exhaust to increase noise c) specially embroidered rear seat moquette with "DW498 sits here" on it d) specially retractable video camera stand You know me too well  |
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Post by VPL630 on May 23, 2014 20:01:37 GMT
For anyone that can't see the post 99 people? That's unexpected, and seriously impressive. that could be the thing that makes this bus a major player, especially in London - not so much in the provincial market though, I expect. I reckon the E400MMC has the edge there. |
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Post by Volvo on May 23, 2014 23:45:43 GMT
[/quote] source="/post/240721/thread" timestamp="1400874860" author="@whistlehead"]99 people? That's unexpected, and seriously impressive. that could be the thing that makes this bus a major player, especially in London - not so much in the provincial market though, I expect. I reckon the E400MMC has the edge there.[/quote]
I do see it selling but I don't expect this optare decker to be a major player in london as some people are expecting, also talking of 99 capacity the Gemini 3 B5TL or streetdeck is capable of that too (the streetdeck also comes with the same engine as the metrodecker), I am sure the new E400 isn't too far from that figure either seeing as the hybrid model is 93 (same there abouts as the B5LH Gemini 3s of Metroline & Stagecoach)
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Post by linus on May 26, 2014 17:32:38 GMT
To my mind the cosmetic problem is that the squared-off top deck detail doesn't harmonise with the lower deck curves. The roofline of the upper front window needs a curve to mirror that below the lower windscreen, and the upper front side window likewise. Trouble is, then it would look just like a Gemini. As it is, it's half-Gemini, half-bog-standard, and that doesn't look right.
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Post by Volvo on May 26, 2014 17:55:42 GMT
For me the rear is the biggest problem, that huge grille then the toilet shaped lower deck rear window, why not make it square atleast
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Post by allentc on Oct 8, 2014 12:49:46 GMT
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Post by snoggle on Oct 8, 2014 14:13:39 GMT
I see elsewhere in that edition that Optare are planning a 12m single decker version of the Metrodecker due in 2016. Also in a 12.6m version for Australia. The all electric version of the Metrodecker is due in early 2015. |
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Post by londonbusboy on Oct 8, 2014 17:13:16 GMT
Do Optare really need another single decker when others are available?
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No Voith option just yet 
Interesting as it shares the same engine as the new Wrightbus StreetDeck 
