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Route T32
Jul 15, 2014 9:29:27 GMT
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Post by tooting395 on Jul 15, 2014 9:29:27 GMT
I've heard that this route is to be discontinued from April next year,but it is still on the tender list.Is this going to be subject to a consultation or has it already been decided
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Post by DT 11 on Jul 15, 2014 10:05:21 GMT
I've heard that this route is to be discontinued from April next year,but it is still on the tender list.Is this going to be subject to a consultation or has it already been decided It was meant to be discontinued in 2013, but a two year extension was given last minute. I think the sensible thing to do is extend the 353 to New Addington increase the PVR to 9 and retain the extra peak vehicle, or extend the T33 to New Addington, or extend the 464 to Addington Village, via the T32 to retain the link. Extending the 353 though may just bump up the usage in that little small section of the T32. There is no point of a consultation because it is just TFL telling people what they are going to do, |
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Post by snoggle on Jul 15, 2014 10:20:07 GMT
Isn't there a link between the T32's withdrawal and the plan to up the frequency on the 314 to partly compensate for the planned loss of the T32? That's what Londonbusroutes.net says.
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Post by DT 11 on Jul 15, 2014 10:24:12 GMT
Isn't there a link between the T32's withdrawal and the plan to up the frequency on the 314 to partly compensate for the planned loss of the T32? That's what Londonbusroutes.net says. Increasing the 314 frequency is a waste, because the T32 is dead. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2014 10:26:16 GMT
Isn't there a link between the T32's withdrawal and the plan to up the frequency on the 314 to partly compensate for the planned loss of the T32? That's what Londonbusroutes.net says. Increasing the 314 frequency is a waste, because the T32 is dead. Think the frequency of the 314 should be increased anyway but presumably the change is being made cost neutral by withdrawing the T32. |
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Post by snoggle on Jul 15, 2014 10:31:58 GMT
Isn't there a link between the T32's withdrawal and the plan to up the frequency on the 314 to partly compensate for the planned loss of the T32? That's what Londonbusroutes.net says. Increasing the 314 frequency is a waste, because the T32 is dead and the 314 does not really need to run every 12 mins. Not for the many other people on the 314 route will have a better service. Moving up to a x12 frequency to compensate for the removal of a x15 service in New Addington surely reflects the "deadness" you refer to? 1 extra bph to in place of 4 bph looks like a reasonable deal to me (for TfL) and I suspect the change is PVR neutral - -3 on the T32 and +3 on the 314 looking at the schedules. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2014 12:45:21 GMT
The T32 is to be replaced by the 314, itself extended via the current T32 route. As far as I know, just one extra bus is needed.
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Post by DT 11 on Jul 15, 2014 13:16:19 GMT
The T32 is to be replaced by the 314, itself extended via the current T32 route. As far as I know, just one extra bus is needed. Most of the T32 is covered by the 314 anyways, so effectively the 314 will serve King Henrys Drive & Arnhem Drive, instead of Gascoingne Road, so I assume Gascoingne Road is to be left with no bus service? The 64 could be easily diverted via Gascoingne Road to retain the link towards New Addington, but towards THP the current route should remain as it is. |
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Post by snoggle on Jul 15, 2014 13:24:51 GMT
The T32 is to be replaced by the 314, itself extended via the current T32 route. As far as I know, just one extra bus is needed. Yes the rerouting will probably need an extra bus. The increased frequency also requires extra buses too. Therefore it might be a case of 4 extra buses needed for the restructured, more frequent 314. |
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Post by DT 11 on Jul 15, 2014 13:26:31 GMT
The T32 is to be replaced by the 314, itself extended via the current T32 route. As far as I know, just one extra bus is needed. Yes the rerouting will probably need an extra bus. The increased frequency also requires extra buses too. Therefore it might be a case of 4 extra buses needed for the restructured, more frequent 314. That is if the frequency is increased.. |
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Post by Paul on Jul 15, 2014 21:05:50 GMT
The T32 is to be replaced by the 314, itself extended via the current T32 route. As far as I know, just one extra bus is needed. Most of the T32 is covered by the 314 anyways, so effectively the 314 will serve King Henrys Drive & Arnhem Drive, instead of Gascoingne Road, so I assume Gascoingne Road is to be left with no bus service? The 64 could be easily diverted via Gascoingne Road to retain the link towards New Addington, but towards THP the current route should remain as it is. It's been a while since I regularly drove 314s so this observation may be a little out of date but I rarely had to stop on Gascoigne Road to drop off or pick up. Gascoigne Road losing it's service probably isn't a massive problem |
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Route T32
Jul 15, 2014 23:15:56 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2014 23:15:56 GMT
Just thinking, the T32 is the shortest route in London. When it's withdrawn, what will be the shortest route?
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Post by DT 11 on Jul 16, 2014 5:57:32 GMT
Just thinking, the T32 is the shortest route in London. When it's withdrawn, what will be the shortest route? Thats because it isn't, the 129 & 327 are shorter they are 2 Miles long, the T32 is 3 miles.... |
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Route T32
Jul 16, 2014 6:51:23 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2014 6:51:23 GMT
Just thinking, the T32 is the shortest route in London. When it's withdrawn, what will be the shortest route? Thats because it isn't, the 129 & 327 are shorter they are 2 Miles long, the T32 is 3 miles.... Assume shortest was used in the context of journey time |
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Post by DT 11 on Jul 16, 2014 7:01:12 GMT
Thats because it isn't, the 129 & 327 are shorter they are 2 Miles long, the T32 is 3 miles.... Assume shortest was used in the context of journey time T32 = 10 Mins 129 = 8-15 Mins 327 = 22-25 Mins May be the shortest in the context of journey time, but the 129 & 327 are shortest in terms of mileage, the 129 can take 8 minutes with no traffic and no passenger stops. |
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