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Post by sid on Sept 29, 2017 14:56:31 GMT
It looks to me as though it would be possible to squeeze another single track in between Shortlands and Bromley South and a two bay terminus adjacent to the existing station at Bromley South without NR losing anything. However taking over the under utilised Grove Park to Bromley North line might be the better option with street running down to Bromley South and possibly further south from there? Could you not get the tram line down to railway level at Bromley South by running through where the 126 used to terminate and then follow the railway up to Beckenham Junction? I agree with running it through the pedestrian area up to Market Square and then maybe cut up West Street - the problem would be how to get onto the Bromley North Branch from the road - redesigned station maybe? Yes I would think it probably would be possible to do that with a few modest infrastructure changes?
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Post by snoggle on Sept 29, 2017 16:38:33 GMT
the problem would be how to get onto the Bromley North Branch from the road - redesigned station maybe? There's a very large bus stand, access roads and car parks right beside the tracks. Probably one of the easier places to get on to the tracks to be honest. Trams wouldn't necessarily need to use the existing station. They could quite readily stop outside with the existing platforms and stn building redeveloped if necessary. Tramlink stops don't need too much structure, just length.
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Post by snoggle on Apr 25, 2019 10:57:06 GMT
The consultation results have been published. In short the Sutton to South Wimbledon option comes out a bit ahead of Colliers Wood - Sutton and Wimbledon to Sutton (over TLink tracks). Vastly more support for the tram option compared to bus rapid transit (84% vs 16%). Consultation reportConsultation Appendix AConsultation Appendix B
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Post by busman on Apr 26, 2019 13:35:28 GMT
The consultation results have been published. In short the Sutton to South Wimbledon option comes out a bit ahead of Colliers Wood - Sutton and Wimbledon to Sutton (over TLink tracks). Vastly more support for the tram option compared to bus rapid transit (84% vs 16%). Consultation reportConsultation Appendix AConsultation Appendix BAh yes, TfL and their cleverly designed consultation questions. They can also say the following: “We also asked respondents the extent to which they supported or opposed each of the transport options we included. We found that: • 81 per cent of respondents supported or strongly supported the Tram option • 40 per cent of respondents supported or strongly supported the Bus Rapid Transit option” Good luck Sutton in getting your tram!
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Post by busaholic on Apr 26, 2019 16:07:18 GMT
The consultation results have been published. In short the Sutton to South Wimbledon option comes out a bit ahead of Colliers Wood - Sutton and Wimbledon to Sutton (over TLink tracks). Vastly more support for the tram option compared to bus rapid transit (84% vs 16%). Consultation reportConsultation Appendix AConsultation Appendix BAh yes, TfL and their cleverly designed consultation questions. They can also say the following: “We also asked respondents the extent to which they supported or opposed each of the transport options we included. We found that: • 81 per cent of respondents supported or strongly supported the Tram option • 40 per cent of respondents supported or strongly supported the Bus Rapid Transit option” Good luck Sutton in getting your tram! Good luck Sutton (and Merton) in getting any of it!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2019 14:11:44 GMT
Ah yes, TfL and their cleverly designed consultation questions. They can also say the following: “We also asked respondents the extent to which they supported or opposed each of the transport options we included. We found that: • 81 per cent of respondents supported or strongly supported the Tram option • 40 per cent of respondents supported or strongly supported the Bus Rapid Transit option” Good luck Sutton in getting your tram! Good luck Sutton (and Merton) in getting any of it! I am praying to every known deity in the world that TfL decide to scrap the plans. I live right on the proposed routes and I cannot bear the idea of years of construction right outside my window.
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Post by sid on Apr 29, 2019 14:27:33 GMT
Good luck Sutton (and Merton) in getting any of it! I am praying to every known deity in the world that TfL decide to scrap the plans. I live right on the proposed routes and I cannot bear the idea of years of construction right outside my window. Doesn't that make you a nimby?😅
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2019 15:22:41 GMT
I am praying to every known deity in the world that TfL decide to scrap the plans. I live right on the proposed routes and I cannot bear the idea of years of construction right outside my window. Doesn't that make you a nimby?😅 For good reason.
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Post by vjaska on Apr 29, 2019 18:12:07 GMT
Good luck Sutton (and Merton) in getting any of it! I am praying to every known deity in the world that TfL decide to scrap the plans. I live right on the proposed routes and I cannot bear the idea of years of construction right outside my window. I can’t see the tram option going ahead if that’s a small crumb of comfort for you?
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Post by busaholic on Apr 29, 2019 20:08:10 GMT
I am praying to every known deity in the world that TfL decide to scrap the plans. I live right on the proposed routes and I cannot bear the idea of years of construction right outside my window. I can’t see the tram option going ahead if that’s a small crumb of comfort for you? <iframe width="24.200000000000045" height="5.159999999999997" style="position: absolute; width: 24.200000000000045px; height: 5.159999999999997px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_52013287" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="24.200000000000045" height="5.159999999999997" style="position: absolute; width: 24.2px; height: 5.16px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1149px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_87933210" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="24.200000000000045" height="5.159999999999997" style="position: absolute; width: 24.2px; height: 5.16px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 196px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_31863918" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="24.200000000000045" height="5.159999999999997" style="position: absolute; width: 24.2px; height: 5.16px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1149px; top: 196px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_9017975" scrolling="no"></iframe> Agreed, but even bus priority measures can mean months, even years, of disruption these days. Where I live a new pelican crossing was approved some weeks ago and, after four weeks of temporary traffic lights and huge traffic jams on a two lane road, all that is to be seen for all this 'effort' is a few wavy lines painted into the road!
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Post by M1104 on Feb 10, 2020 19:52:56 GMT
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Post by snowman on Feb 17, 2020 8:53:33 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2020 17:36:57 GMT
Appalling decision, option 1 offers the best and most cost effective implementation of a tramline. My local MP will be getting a letter with my concerns as I am completely opposed to trams thundering past my windows until gone midnight.
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Post by John tuthill on Feb 17, 2020 20:27:19 GMT
Appalling decision, option 1 offers the best and most cost effective implementation of a tramline. My local MP will be getting a letter with my concerns as I am completely opposed to trams thundering past my windows until gone midnight. So, they're going to install tram lines on EXISTING roads? Have they forgotten the chaos in Croydon Town Centre? How is a tram any more efficient than an electric bus??!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2020 22:16:25 GMT
Appalling decision, option 1 offers the best and most cost effective implementation of a tramline. My local MP will be getting a letter with my concerns as I am completely opposed to trams thundering past my windows until gone midnight. So, they're going to install tram lines on EXISTING roads? Have they forgotten the chaos in Croydon Town Centre? How is a tram any more efficient than an electric bus??!! Yep, they are gonna make the already busy Rose Hill into Sutton High Street even busier. I don’t know how they are gonna do it. It’s stupid and a massive wast of resources. Frankly it would be better and cheaper to upgrade the existing Thameslink line and install a new junction in Wimbledon so trams could all the way from Sutton to Croydon via Merton Road. It would be quicker and far less disruptive. I’m holding out hope that tfl won’t have the funding for it.
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