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Post by COBO on Jul 16, 2020 16:37:21 GMT
Oh I forgot that this is a Fantasy thread and it's meant to be taken seriously with serious ideas. Oh wait it is the fantasy thread and not other thread. greg LK65EBO
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Post by COBO on Jul 16, 2020 16:45:24 GMT
23: withdrawn between Ladbroke Grove Sainsbury’s and Westbourne Park. Diverted to Wembley Central via Ladbroke Grove, Harrow Road, route 18 to Harlesden, route 206 to Brent Park Tesco’s and route 92 to Wembley. To link Wembley with Ladbroke Grove. 27: withdrawn between Notting Hill Gate and Hammersmith. Diverted to Acton High Street via route 31 to Holland Park Avenue, route 94 to Shepherds Bush, route 207 to Acton and Market Place. Converted to a 24 hour service. To link Acton with Paddington. 28: withdrawn between Harrow Road Prince Of Wales and Kensal Rise. Diverted to Camden Town via route 31 to Camden. Converted to a 24 Hour service. To maintain links lost by route 31 ands to link Wandsworth with Camden. 31: Discontinued. 94: withdrawn between Marble Arch and Piccadilly Circus. Extended from Acton Green to Hounslow Heath via South Parade, Acton Lane, Bollo Lane, Chiswick Park Station, Stanhope Way, Internal roads within Chiswick Business Park, Chiswick High Road, Gunnersbury Station and route 237 to Hounslow Heath. To maintain links lost by the 237. 218: rerouted between Acton and Gypsy Corner via route 266. Extended from North Acton to Wembley via route 266 to Willesden Junction, route 487 to Harlesden Station, route 260 to Central Middlesex Hospital and 440 to Wembley Stadium. Converted to double deck. To link Wembley with Hammersmith. 223: extended from Wembley Central to South Harrow via Route H17 to Harrow Road, Sudbury & Harrow Road Station, Sudbury Hill, Clementine Churchill Hospital, London Road and route 258 to South Harrow. Linking South Harrow with Wembley. 237: Discontinued. 295: extended from Ladbroke Grove Sainsbury’s to Westbourne Park via route 23 to Westbourne Park. 440. discontinued. 452: rerouted between Kilburn Lane and Notting Hill Gate via route 28. To maintain links lost links by route 28. E10: withdrawn between Greenford Broadway and Islip Manor. Extended from Ealing Broadway to Stonebridge Park via Madeley Road, North Ealing, North Circular Road, Gunnersbury Avenue, Chiswick Roundabout, Chiswick High Road, Oxford North Road, Wellesley Road, Heatfield Terrace, Chiswick High Road, Turnham Green Church, internal roads within Chiswick Business Park, via route 440 to Acton High Street, route 218 to Gypsy Corner and route 440 to Stonebridge Park. Linking Ealing with Chiswick, Turnham Green, Chiswick Business Park and to maintain links lost by route 440. E11: Extended from Greenford Broadway to Islip Manor Park via route E10 to Islip Manor Park. To maintain links lost by the E10. E12: or maybe a new route could be created running between Manor and Greenford Broadway via route E10. To maintain links lost by route H91: withdrawn between Stamford Brook Bus Garage and Hammersmith. Diverted to White City via route 237 to White City. To maintain links lost by the 237. N27: discontinued. N31: discontinued, N94: reconstructed to run between Feltham Leisure West and Piccadilly Circus via route 90 to Feltham Leisure West, route 235 to Brentford High Road, route 237 to Shepherds Bush and route 94 to Picadillly Circus. To provide Feltham a night link between Hounslow and Feltham. N328: new night route running between Golders Green and Clapham Junction via route 328 to Chelsea and route N31 to Clapham Junction. To link Golders Green and Clapham Junction at night. Your 94, 237, H91 and N94 seem very pointless to me. The 237 carries some heavy loadings sometimes and I cannot see how the H91 and 94 will be able to take them? The N94 seems silly if your purpose is to just create a night link between Hounslow and Feltham imo when you could just 24 hour the 117 or 235? The 94 would be insanely long and I imagine it would be really unreliable with all of the traffic around the place. Can the 117 and 235 even gain night services considering that they both leave TfL land so my idea is not pointless because my N94 stop short before it exit's TfL land and it's Feltham with Central London. I also don't see the point in converting the 117 or 235. The whole point of extending the 94 to Hounslow Heath and reroute the H91 is to cut the number of bus routes on Chiswick High Road down.
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Post by COBO on Jul 16, 2020 16:47:50 GMT
23: withdrawn between Ladbroke Grove Sainsbury’s and Westbourne Park. Diverted to Wembley Central via Ladbroke Grove, Harrow Road, route 18 to Harlesden, route 206 to Brent Park Tesco’s and route 92 to Wembley. To link Wembley with Ladbroke Grove. 27: withdrawn between Notting Hill Gate and Hammersmith. Diverted to Acton High Street via route 31 to Holland Park Avenue, route 94 to Shepherds Bush, route 207 to Acton and Market Place. Converted to a 24 hour service. To link Acton with Paddington. 28: withdrawn between Harrow Road Prince Of Wales and Kensal Rise. Diverted to Camden Town via route 31 to Camden. Converted to a 24 Hour service. To maintain links lost by route 31 ands to link Wandsworth with Camden. 31: Discontinued. 94: withdrawn between Marble Arch and Piccadilly Circus. Extended from Acton Green to Hounslow Heath via South Parade, Acton Lane, Bollo Lane, Chiswick Park Station, Stanhope Way, Internal roads within Chiswick Business Park, Chiswick High Road, Gunnersbury Station and route 237 to Hounslow Heath. To maintain links lost by the 237. 218: rerouted between Acton and Gypsy Corner via route 266. Extended from North Acton to Wembley via route 266 to Willesden Junction, route 487 to Harlesden Station, route 260 to Central Middlesex Hospital and 440 to Wembley Stadium. Converted to double deck. To link Wembley with Hammersmith. 223: extended from Wembley Central to South Harrow via Route H17 to Harrow Road, Sudbury & Harrow Road Station, Sudbury Hill, Clementine Churchill Hospital, London Road and route 258 to South Harrow. Linking South Harrow with Wembley. 237: Discontinued. 295: extended from Ladbroke Grove Sainsbury’s to Westbourne Park via route 23 to Westbourne Park. 440. discontinued. 452: rerouted between Kilburn Lane and Notting Hill Gate via route 28. To maintain links lost links by route 28. E10: withdrawn between Greenford Broadway and Islip Manor. Extended from Ealing Broadway to Stonebridge Park via Madeley Road, North Ealing, North Circular Road, Gunnersbury Avenue, Chiswick Roundabout, Chiswick High Road, Oxford North Road, Wellesley Road, Heatfield Terrace, Chiswick High Road, Turnham Green Church, internal roads within Chiswick Business Park, via route 440 to Acton High Street, route 218 to Gypsy Corner and route 440 to Stonebridge Park. Linking Ealing with Chiswick, Turnham Green, Chiswick Business Park and to maintain links lost by route 440. E11: Extended from Greenford Broadway to Islip Manor Park via route E10 to Islip Manor Park. To maintain links lost by the E10. E12: or maybe a new route could be created running between Manor and Greenford Broadway via route E10. To maintain links lost by route H91: withdrawn between Stamford Brook Bus Garage and Hammersmith. Diverted to White City via route 237 to White City. To maintain links lost by the 237. N27: discontinued. N31: discontinued, N94: reconstructed to run between Feltham Leisure West and Piccadilly Circus via route 90 to Feltham Leisure West, route 235 to Brentford High Road, route 237 to Shepherds Bush and route 94 to Picadillly Circus. To provide Feltham a night link between Hounslow and Feltham. N328: new night route running between Golders Green and Clapham Junction via route 328 to Chelsea and route N31 to Clapham Junction. To link Golders Green and Clapham Junction at night. I only am aware of a few of these routes, but I don’t think some of these will work. The 27 is used very well at Hammersmith and Kensington, and is amazing for when the H&C/Circle is shut and can get on at Paddington, Euston Square or Baker Street. The 31 being withdrawn is mixed emotions for me, because you have used the 27 as a replacement, which is good. But that Kilburn-White City link is HEAVILY used via the 31 routing (not the 316) and I don’t think it’s worth breaking. I would just in your case keep the 31 the same Reroute the 27 to Wandsworth from Notting Hill via the 28 Withdraw the 28 instead With the 94, It looks like a good route but I just don’t see a route from Hounslow to Marble Arch, it would be very long journey times and most people would use the Tube instead. I think you should keep the 94 as it is. Make an N94 via the 237 to Hounslow Heath instead and as your idea to Feltham. I also think to remove buses from Holland Park Avenue, keep the 452 as it is. And reroute the 148 to Kensal Rise via the 28 instead. This will remove the 148 at Holland Park and keep the 31 and 94 only. and for the N328, I agree with it completely. I also think if the 328 could be extended to Clapham or even further, it should happen and become 24 hour. But if you send the N94 to Feltham then Feltham would have a night service from Central London, Hounslow and Brentford. My other idea was to leave the 94 or discontinue it completely but reroute the 237 between Gunnersbury Station and Goldhawk Road via Chiswick Business Park, Chiswick Park Station,`Acton Green and route 94. To reduce bus routes along Chiswick High Road. Another reason why reroute the 27 to Acton is to link Acton with Central London and Notting Hill Gate. Good idea rerouting the 148 to Kensal Rise.
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Post by LK65EBO on Jul 16, 2020 17:25:38 GMT
Your 94, 237, H91 and N94 seem very pointless to me. The 237 carries some heavy loadings sometimes and I cannot see how the H91 and 94 will be able to take them? The N94 seems silly if your purpose is to just create a night link between Hounslow and Feltham imo when you could just 24 hour the 117 or 235? The 94 would be insanely long and I imagine it would be really unreliable with all of the traffic around the place. Can the 117 and 235 even gain night services considering that they both leave TfL land so my idea is not pointless because my N94 stop short before it exit's TfL land and it's Feltham with Central London. I also don't see the point in converting the 117 or 235. The whole point of extending the 94 to Hounslow Heath and reroute the H91 is to cut the number of bus routes on Chiswick High Road down. Then terminate the 117/235 at Feltham Station. Feltham isn't too far to Hounslow - then take N9 from Hounslow to Central London? No need for an N94 when there are much simpler options available.
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Post by COBO on Jul 16, 2020 17:35:29 GMT
Can the 117 and 235 even gain night services considering that they both leave TfL land so my idea is not pointless because my N94 stop short before it exit's TfL land and it's Feltham with Central London. I also don't see the point in converting the 117 or 235. The whole point of extending the 94 to Hounslow Heath and reroute the H91 is to cut the number of bus routes on Chiswick High Road down. Then terminate the 117/235 at Feltham Station. Feltham isn't too far to Hounslow - then take N9 from Hounslow to Central London? No need for an N94 when there are much simpler options available. Why would you cut the 117 and 235 at Feltham aren't they needed beyond Feltham? Is it really simpler. What would replace them beyond Feltham? The N94 could even link Shepherd's Bush and Feltham at night. It could even link people to the Central Line night tube.
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Post by LK65EBO on Jul 16, 2020 17:40:44 GMT
Then terminate the 117/235 at Feltham Station. Feltham isn't too far to Hounslow - then take N9 from Hounslow to Central London? No need for an N94 when there are much simpler options available. Why would you cut the 117 and 235 at Feltham aren't they needed beyond Feltham? Is it really simpler. What would replace them beyond Feltham. Hang on you just said " can the 117 and 235 even gain night services considering that they both leave TfL land". And now your saying this..?? There is no where in Lower Feltham that is suitable for any bus route to stand so what else do you expect??
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Post by COBO on Jul 16, 2020 17:47:00 GMT
Why would you cut the 117 and 235 at Feltham aren't they needed beyond Feltham? Is it really simpler. What would replace them beyond Feltham. Hang on you just said " can the 117 and 235 even gain night services considering that they both leave TfL land". And now your saying this..?? There is no where in Lower Feltham that is suitable for any bus route to stand so what else do you expect?? OMG. Then you don't touch the 117 and 235 and not give them night services so that they don't get fiddled with. Yes 235 and 117 can't have night serivces because they leave TfL but why would you cut them at Feltham just for the sake of a night service. This Is why extending the N94 to Feltham is better idea so other exitsting routes aren't fiddled with.
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Post by LK65EBO on Jul 16, 2020 17:58:04 GMT
Hang on you just said " can the 117 and 235 even gain night services considering that they both leave TfL land". And now your saying this..?? There is no where in Lower Feltham that is suitable for any bus route to stand so what else do you expect?? OMG. Then you don't touch the 117 and 235 and not give them night services so that they don't get fiddled with. Yes 235 and 117 can't have night serivces because they leave TfL but why would you cut them at Feltham just for the sake of a night service. This Is why extending the N94 to Feltham is better idea so other exitsting routes aren't fiddled with. You proposed a night service from Feltham to Hounslow... not Staines/ Sunbury to Hounslow. The conversion of the 117/235 is by far the most simplest idea instead of extending a route that is already quite long.
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Post by greg on Jul 16, 2020 18:09:01 GMT
Oh I forgot that this is a Fantasy thread and it's meant to be taken seriously with serious ideas. Oh wait it is the fantasy thread and not other thread. greg LK65EBObruh i wasnt even tryna be rude im sorry if i was rude in any way i was just saying
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Post by COBO on Jul 16, 2020 18:11:35 GMT
OMG. Then you don't touch the 117 and 235 and not give them night services so that they don't get fiddled with. Yes 235 and 117 can't have night serivces because they leave TfL but why would you cut them at Feltham just for the sake of a night service. This Is why extending the N94 to Feltham is better idea so other exitsting routes aren't fiddled with. You proposed a night service from Feltham to Hounslow... not Staines/ Sunbury to Hounslow. The conversion of the 117/235 is by far the most simplest idea instead of extending a route that is already quite long. Why are you being so difficult or are you doing that on purpose. I never mentioned a night service that runs Staines/ Sunbury to Hounslow. No it's not simpler. How is it simpler? All I'm proposing is extending the N94 to Feltham so that it gets a night service to Central London, Notting Hill Gare and Shepherd's Bush. It could also link people in Hounslow, Feltham, Brentford and Chiswick with the Central Line night tube. It could also help out the N9. The N9 used to run every 10 minutes now it's not. Most night routes are very long because there's not much traffic. The N3, N9, N18, N207 are all long night routes. So what's wrong with making the N94 a bit long. How can you convert the 117 and 235 when they both leave the TfL boundary are they even allowed night services? Or saying having a N117 or N235 that runs between Feltham and Hounslow?
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Post by LK65EBO on Jul 16, 2020 18:44:56 GMT
You proposed a night service from Feltham to Hounslow... not Staines/ Sunbury to Hounslow. The conversion of the 117/235 is by far the most simplest idea instead of extending a route that is already quite long. Why are you being so difficult or are you doing that on purpose. I never mentioned a night service that runs Staines/ Sunbury to Hounslow. No it's not simpler. How is it simpler? All I'm proposing is extending the N94 to Feltham so that it gets a night service to Central London, Notting Hill Gare and Shepherd's Bush. It could also link people in Hounslow, Feltham, Brentford and Chiswick with the Central Line night tube. It could also help out the N9. The N9 used to run every 10 minutes now it's not. Most night routes are very long because there's not much traffic. The N3, N9, N18, N207 are all long night routes. So what's wrong with making the N94 a bit long. How can you convert the 117 and 235 when they both leave the TfL boundary are they even allowed night services? Or saying having a N117 or N235 that runs between Feltham and Hounslow? With your "N94" there would have to be a whole lot of rerouting and route learning needed to be done in order to achieve your route where simply with an N235 or N117 the route simply follows its regular day route. An N235 (Feltham St - Brentford County Court) would achieve all of the things you mentioned above. Probably best to leave it here now as we will end up going in cirlces.
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Post by COBO on Jul 16, 2020 19:33:04 GMT
Oh I forgot that this is a Fantasy thread and it's meant to be taken seriously with serious ideas. Oh wait it is the fantasy thread and not other thread. greg LK65EBObruh i wasnt even tryna be rude im sorry if i was rude in any way i was just saying I’m sorry.
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Post by greg on Jul 16, 2020 19:51:00 GMT
bruh i wasnt even tryna be rude im sorry if i was rude in any way i was just saying I’m sorry. it’s fine me too lmao
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Post by COBO on Jul 16, 2020 20:50:06 GMT
Why are you being so difficult or are you doing that on purpose. I never mentioned a night service that runs Staines/ Sunbury to Hounslow. No it's not simpler. How is it simpler? All I'm proposing is extending the N94 to Feltham so that it gets a night service to Central London, Notting Hill Gare and Shepherd's Bush. It could also link people in Hounslow, Feltham, Brentford and Chiswick with the Central Line night tube. It could also help out the N9. The N9 used to run every 10 minutes now it's not. Most night routes are very long because there's not much traffic. The N3, N9, N18, N207 are all long night routes. So what's wrong with making the N94 a bit long. How can you convert the 117 and 235 when they both leave the TfL boundary are they even allowed night services? Or saying having a N117 or N235 that runs between Feltham and Hounslow? With your "N94" there would have to be a whole lot of rerouting and route learning needed to be done in order to achieve your route where simply with an N235 or N117 the route simply follows its regular day route. An N235 (Feltham St - Brentford County Court) would achieve all of the things you mentioned above. Probably best to leave it here now as we will end up going in cirlces. What if the N235 went further to Ealing Broadway via the E8 to Hanwell Broadway, Church Road, Greenford Avenue, Drayton Bridge Road and route E1 to Ealing Broadway. So that Boston Manor Road can have a night service.
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Post by aaron1 on Jul 17, 2020 8:33:23 GMT
If the Night route where to be extend out side of the London boundary It will be like this N65 or N87 extend to Dorking via 465 N91 extend to Potter Bar via 298 N55 extend to Epping via 20 Loughton then via 575 N87 extend to Epsom via 406 N18 extend to Watford Junction via 285 or N16 extend to Watford Junction via 142 N207 extend to High Wycombe via 740 or A40
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