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Post by M1104 on Nov 18, 2014 10:22:03 GMT
Was it originally intended to have all LTs crew operated all the time?
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Post by sid on Nov 18, 2014 11:25:10 GMT
Was it originally intended to have all LTs crew operated all the time? I thought so at very least during the daytime?
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Post by sid on Nov 18, 2014 11:26:28 GMT
I witnessed an incident on a 148 yesterday where the rear platform door that opens inwards hit a woman who was waiting to get off, she made nothing of it but it could have been more serious and certainly could have resulted in a compensation claim? As far as I'm concerned the rear platform doors should either be open (with a conductor on board as intended) or closed when in OPO mode with the bus in effect being a conventional two door bus. Isn't a warning message given before the doors open? What they could do is adjust the speed of the doors so that they open a bit slower (baring emergencies), giving punters a chance to move accordingly if needed. No warning message that I've noticed
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2014 16:38:21 GMT
Put them on the 23A. Preferably when the Army are getting practice in.
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Post by routew15 on Nov 18, 2014 18:01:35 GMT
I witnessed an incident on a 148 yesterday where the rear platform door that opens inwards hit a woman who was waiting to get off, she made nothing of it but it could have been more serious and certainly could have resulted in a compensation claim? As far as I'm concerned the rear platform doors should either be open (with a conductor on board as intended) or closed when in OPO mode with the bus in effect being a conventional two door bus. I think that if the next 200 New Routemasters are all going to be OPO then instead of (currently) using a single leaf inward swing door on the rear door, a single sliding plug door could be more effective, this way people on the inside will not be hit by the door. The con to this is that I do not think these modified buses would not be able to operate with the open platform, as I think the sliding door maybe seen as dangerous, (specifically speaking about) when the bus is moving and the door is hanging out. In the short term, what I think we will see happen is for all rear doors on LTs to use the same sort of fluorescent door protection 'ropes' that Metroline had on there buses exit doors (I think they were used on Metroline's TPLs or VPLs, maybe both)
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Post by twobellstogo on Nov 18, 2014 23:10:21 GMT
Anyone else noticed that on the new 'Paddington' film trailer, there is a shot of an LT carrying route 27 blinds?...
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Post by DT 11 on Nov 18, 2014 23:50:48 GMT
Anyone else noticed that on the new 'Paddington' film trailer, there is a shot of an LT carrying route 27 blinds?... Product Placement lol. 27 don't even have LTs in Fact no route in Paddington has them.
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Post by vjaska on Nov 19, 2014 2:41:39 GMT
Anyone else noticed that on the new 'Paddington' film trailer, there is a shot of an LT carrying route 27 blinds?... Yep, I saw it
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Post by sid on Nov 19, 2014 10:38:07 GMT
I witnessed an incident on a 148 yesterday where the rear platform door that opens inwards hit a woman who was waiting to get off, she made nothing of it but it could have been more serious and certainly could have resulted in a compensation claim? As far as I'm concerned the rear platform doors should either be open (with a conductor on board as intended) or closed when in OPO mode with the bus in effect being a conventional two door bus. I think that if the next 200 New Routemasters are all going to be OPO then instead of (currently) using a single leaf inward swing door on the rear door, a single sliding plug door could be more effective, this way people on the inside will not be hit by the door. The con to this is that I do not think these modified buses would not be able to operate with the open platform, as I think the sliding door maybe seen as dangerous, (specifically speaking about) when the bus is moving and the door is hanging out. In the short term, what I think we will see happen is for all rear doors on LTs to use the same sort of fluorescent door protection 'ropes' that Metroline had on there buses exit doors (I think they were used on Metroline's TPLs or VPLs, maybe both) Which begs the question as to what is the point in ordering another 200? What advantage do they have over conventional OPO buses? None as far as I can see. The ideal scenario would be to have them all crew operated between say 07.00 and 20.00 and OPO at night with the rear door closed and operating as a conventional two door bus, but if TfL don't want to pay for conductors then don't order anymore.
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Post by Green Kitten on Nov 19, 2014 11:53:28 GMT
I witnessed an incident on a 148 yesterday where the rear platform door that opens inwards hit a woman who was waiting to get off, she made nothing of it but it could have been more serious and certainly could have resulted in a compensation claim? As far as I'm concerned the rear platform doors should either be open (with a conductor on board as intended) or closed when in OPO mode with the bus in effect being a conventional two door bus. I think that if the next 200 New Routemasters are all going to be OPO then instead of (currently) using a single leaf inward swing door on the rear door, a single sliding plug door could be more effective, this way people on the inside will not be hit by the door. The con to this is that I do not think these modified buses would not be able to operate with the open platform, as I think the sliding door maybe seen as dangerous, (specifically speaking about) when the bus is moving and the door is hanging out. In the short term, what I think we will see happen is for all rear doors on LTs to use the same sort of fluorescent door protection 'ropes' that Metroline had on there buses exit doors (I think they were used on Metroline's TPLs or VPLs, maybe both) Effective idea... I must admit I was shocked seeing the back doors on the LTs open like that the first time. Metroline's TPs, VPs and TAs still have the useful fluorescent door ropes, as well as London United's VEs/VLEs, TLAs, and (I think) TAs.
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Post by vjaska on Nov 19, 2014 15:15:14 GMT
I think that if the next 200 New Routemasters are all going to be OPO then instead of (currently) using a single leaf inward swing door on the rear door, a single sliding plug door could be more effective, this way people on the inside will not be hit by the door. The con to this is that I do not think these modified buses would not be able to operate with the open platform, as I think the sliding door maybe seen as dangerous, (specifically speaking about) when the bus is moving and the door is hanging out. In the short term, what I think we will see happen is for all rear doors on LTs to use the same sort of fluorescent door protection 'ropes' that Metroline had on there buses exit doors (I think they were used on Metroline's TPLs or VPLs, maybe both) Effective idea... I must admit I was shocked seeing the back doors on the LTs open like that the first time. Metroline's TPs, VPs and TAs still have the useful fluorescent door ropes, as well as London United's VEs/VLEs, TLAs, and (I think) TAs. Yep, there are London United TA's with the fluorescent door ropes as the 57's former 02 reg TA's had them.
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