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Post by rj131 on Dec 10, 2019 19:52:49 GMT
But surely if a passenger presses the emergency door open button and gets out, any injury or issue would be down to the passenger and be 100% their fault, or am I wrong? It would still be a headache to deal with - curtailing the bus, giving a report to the ambulance or police, then filling out an incident report and spending time on the phone to the insurers back at base. A few times people have opened the back doors when the bus was moving at a fair pace and I stopped. Some drivers carry on as normal to the next stop but too risky for my liking. I prayed nobody would try that one when I drove one of those whiny 51 plate DPS' on the C1 - those things stopped on a penny if the back doors were opened when in motion! Do you mean like the emergency brake would slam on and the bus would yank to a stop? Sounds quite funny actually, but probably is quite dangerous The one I remember most was when someone did it on the 7, on a G3 LK17 VWH. The bus was moving at a relatively low speed, but all of a sudden the bus stopped completely dead, everyone was flung forward and the bus made that high pitched whine that Gemini’s make if the doors are open while the parking brake is off. Happens quite a lot if drivers immediately pull away while the front doors are still in the middle of closing. I don’t know if the bus itself slammed the brakes on automatically because someone pressed the emergency button or it was the driver doing it him/herself after finding out the door had been opened. Either way it must be blo*dy annoying, it annoyed me as a passenger, like just have some patience man!
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Post by Frenzie on Dec 10, 2019 22:22:06 GMT
It would still be a headache to deal with - curtailing the bus, giving a report to the ambulance or police, then filling out an incident report and spending time on the phone to the insurers back at base. A few times people have opened the back doors when the bus was moving at a fair pace and I stopped. Some drivers carry on as normal to the next stop but too risky for my liking. I prayed nobody would try that one when I drove one of those whiny 51 plate DPS' on the C1 - those things stopped on a penny if the back doors were opened when in motion! Do you mean like the emergency brake would slam on and the bus would yank to a stop? Sounds quite funny actually, but probably is quite dangerous The one I remember most was when someone did it on the 7, on a G3 LK17 VWH. The bus was moving at a relatively low speed, but all of a sudden the bus stopped completely dead, everyone was flung forward and the bus made that high pitched whine that Gemini’s make if the doors are open while the parking brake is off. Happens quite a lot if drivers immediately pull away while the front doors are still in the middle of closing. I don’t know if the bus itself slammed the brakes on automatically because someone pressed the emergency button or it was the driver doing it him/herself after finding out the door had been opened. Either way it must be blo*dy annoying, it annoyed me as a passenger, like just have some patience man! It happens on LTs when a passenger presses the emergency door button at the back causing the bus to slam on the brakes. If a bus is going above 20 everyone is probably getting whiplash.
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Post by 6HP502C on Dec 10, 2019 22:31:07 GMT
Do you mean like the emergency brake would slam on and the bus would yank to a stop? Sounds quite funny actually, but probably is quite dangerous The one I remember most was when someone did it on the 7, on a G3 LK17 VWH. The bus was moving at a relatively low speed, but all of a sudden the bus stopped completely dead, everyone was flung forward and the bus made that high pitched whine that Gemini’s make if the doors are open while the parking brake is off. Happens quite a lot if drivers immediately pull away while the front doors are still in the middle of closing. I don’t know if the bus itself slammed the brakes on automatically because someone pressed the emergency button or it was the driver doing it him/herself after finding out the door had been opened. Either way it must be blo*dy annoying, it annoyed me as a passenger, like just have some patience man! Yes. Some buses will only do it if the control is activated below a certain speed, often around 3mph but others might do it indiscriminately.
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Post by vjaska on Dec 11, 2019 0:19:18 GMT
From memory, the 03 & 53 reg DW's at TC didn't stop when the rear doors were opened as some idiot from my school temporarily jammed one of the rear doors opened for a good 20 seconds as we were going down Knights Hill at speed before the door slammed shut like I've never seen a door do so - honestly thought the door would of fallen off. The DLA's seemed to have a lock preventing the driver from driving if the rear doors were opened as a few times on the 468, some drivers would seemingly forget the rear doors were opened, take off the handbrake and the bus just revved and revved going nowhere.
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Post by M1104 on Dec 11, 2019 10:06:54 GMT
From memory, the 03 & 53 reg DW's at TC didn't stop when the rear doors were opened as some idiot from my school temporarily jammed one of the rear doors opened for a good 20 seconds as we were going down Knights Hill at speed before the door slammed shut like I've never seen a door do so - honestly thought the door would of fallen off. The DLA's seemed to have a lock preventing the driver from driving if the rear doors were opened as a few times on the 468, some drivers would seemingly forget the rear doors were opened, take off the handbrake and the bus just revved and revved going nowhere. The L class Leyland Olympians from the 80s could initially¹ be driven with the rear doors open, not even a school-type bell ring (back then prior to buzzers). I saw this on more than one occasion where drivers forgot to close the doors on those types. ¹ - presumably modified/reconfigured not too long after
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Post by M1104 on Dec 11, 2019 10:17:58 GMT
Do you mean like the emergency brake would slam on and the bus would yank to a stop? Sounds quite funny actually, but probably is quite dangerous The one I remember most was when someone did it on the 7, on a G3 LK17 VWH. The bus was moving at a relatively low speed, but all of a sudden the bus stopped completely dead, everyone was flung forward and the bus made that high pitched whine that Gemini’s make if the doors are open while the parking brake is off. Happens quite a lot if drivers immediately pull away while the front doors are still in the middle of closing. I don’t know if the bus itself slammed the brakes on automatically because someone pressed the emergency button or it was the driver doing it him/herself after finding out the door had been opened. Either way it must be blo*dy annoying, it annoyed me as a passenger, like just have some patience man! It happens on LTs when a passenger presses the emergency door button at the back causing the bus to slam on the brakes. If a bus is going above 20 everyone is probably getting whiplash. The emergency controls shouldn't be able to work above 3mph, at least not on regular buses nowadays in this Nanny State day and age.
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Post by cl54 on Dec 11, 2019 11:51:15 GMT
Back in the day the centre doors had a gearbox interlock which prevented the bus being moved with them open.
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Post by busman on Dec 11, 2019 15:14:25 GMT
Upcoming changes anyone?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 15:47:39 GMT
The 112 rerouting via Madeley Road should be happening soon, as the new bus stops have been installed, just waiting for TFL to confirm the date of this
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Post by COBO on Dec 11, 2019 18:18:28 GMT
The 112 rerouting via Madeley Road should be happening soon, as the new bus stops have been installed, just waiting for TFL to confirm the date of this Will the rerouting via Madeley Road prevent double deckers from going onto the 112?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 18:35:35 GMT
The 112 rerouting via Madeley Road should be happening soon, as the new bus stops have been installed, just waiting for TFL to confirm the date of this Will the rerouting via Madeley Road prevent double deckers from going onto the 112? I don't know, but I expect there should be a few complaints of DDs through Madeley Road from residents
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Post by COBO on Dec 11, 2019 20:06:40 GMT
Will the rerouting via Madeley Road prevent double deckers from going onto the 112? I don't know, but I expect there should be a few complaints of DDs through Madeley Road from residents Oh great that's all we need and TfL want the 112 to be extended to North Finchley to replace the 611 and according to them the 112 has been increased in patronage. TfL don't really think things through lately.
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Post by rif153 on Dec 12, 2019 16:49:14 GMT
I don't know, but I expect there should be a few complaints of DDs through Madeley Road from residents Oh great that's all we need and TfL want the 112 to be extended to North Finchley to replace the 611 and according to them the 112 has been increased in patronage. TfL don't really think things through lately. I hope TfL increase the 112's frequency to tackle the chronic overcrowding the route really needs deckers but the residents of Madeley Road are obstructive and given they were so anti 112 I can't imagine the route being decked whilst heading down Madeley Road.
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Post by rj131 on Dec 12, 2019 23:05:43 GMT
Oh great that's all we need and TfL want the 112 to be extended to North Finchley to replace the 611 and according to them the 112 has been increased in patronage. TfL don't really think things through lately. I hope TfL increase the 112's frequency to tackle the chronic overcrowding the route really needs deckers but the residents of Madeley Road are obstructive and given they were so anti 112 I can't imagine the route being decked whilst heading down Madeley Road. Has the overcrowding eased at all since its most recent frequency increase from 5 to 6bph? (I’m assuming you think not lol)
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Post by rif153 on Dec 12, 2019 23:56:42 GMT
I hope TfL increase the 112's frequency to tackle the chronic overcrowding the route really needs deckers but the residents of Madeley Road are obstructive and given they were so anti 112 I can't imagine the route being decked whilst heading down Madeley Road. Has the overcrowding eased at all since its most recent frequency increase from 5 to 6bph? (I’m assuming you think not lol) No real noticeable decrease in overcrowding, buses are still packed to the rafters regularly.
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