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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2015 10:59:17 GMT
What about the D8? I noticed a WVL 4XX going out of service at Canning Town the other night its blinds scrolled through all the routes, I was surprised these buses have D8 on them (Unless the Olympic bus plans were known as early as April 2011 when these buses entered service) I am always surprised that they never included the D6 on the blinds especially as the route had very regular workings under First. Based on the loadings I've seen on the D8 it could do with double decks at times. However Trident has beaten me to it to point out the route now has a height restriction on it but I suspect that it could go back to its old route if required. The N205 still uses Warton Road so it should be perfectly possible for the D8 to use it too.
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Post by vjaska on May 27, 2015 12:03:10 GMT
I think the X26 should get artics, as dds+many people with luggage doesn't always work out. However I wouldn't see my idea happening with Boris Johnson as Mayor. The X26 was one of the few routes where I would of allowed Artics to work on - it's this kind of route where they really work best, a limited stop route or a shuttle route which is what the 507 & 521 effectively is.
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Post by VPL630 on May 27, 2015 13:55:39 GMT
I think the X26 should get artics, as dds+many people with luggage doesn't always work out. However I wouldn't see my idea happening with Boris Johnson as Mayor. The X26 was one of the few routes where I would of allowed Artics to work on - it's this kind of route where they really work best, a limited stop route or a shuttle route which is what the 507 & 521 effectively is. The X26 deserves bendy buses They could also be 2 door ones so you actually get some seat's in the bus, only problem I could see would be Stand space at Heathrow
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Post by ilovelondonbuses on May 27, 2015 14:08:06 GMT
The X26 was one of the few routes where I would of allowed Artics to work on - it's this kind of route where they really work best, a limited stop route or a shuttle route which is what the 507 & 521 effectively is. The X26 deserves bendy buses They could also be 2 door ones so you actually get some seat's in the bus, only problem I could see would be Stand space at Heathrow Actually it doesn't. The Artics are perfectly fine on the route and serve the purpose for the route itself. Only thing route X26 "deserves" is slight PVR increase to every 20 mins to it's M-S frequency as opposed it's current 30 min frequency.
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Post by sid on May 27, 2015 17:38:04 GMT
I don't think bendybuses would be suitable for the X26 for a number of reasons. Metrobus used to put spare double deckers on the route every Sunday and they were fine and the increased capacity was very useful, not everybody is going to or from the airport with luggage.
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Post by LX09FBJ on May 27, 2015 21:16:08 GMT
The X26 was one of the few routes where I would of allowed Artics to work on - it's this kind of route where they really work best, a limited stop route or a shuttle route which is what the 507 & 521 effectively is. The X26 deserves bendy buses They could also be 2 door ones so you actually get some seat's in the bus, only problem I could see would be Stand space at Heathrow Not too sure of bendies on the X26, there are a few tight spots in Kingston too, especially towards Croydon. What the route really needs are double deck semi-coaches, like the Leyland Olympian Coach ( these are what I mean) or the Alexander Royale Olympians once used on the Airbus service to and from Central London and Heathrow
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Post by rmz19 on May 27, 2015 22:37:12 GMT
The X26 deserves bendy buses They could also be 2 door ones so you actually get some seat's in the bus, only problem I could see would be Stand space at Heathrow Not too sure of bendies on the X26, there are a few tight spots in Kingston too, especially towards Croydon. What the route really needs are double deck semi-coaches, like the Leyland Olympian Coach ( these are what I mean) or the Alexander Royale Olympians once used on the Airbus service to and from Central London and Heathrow Tight spots shouldn't be a problem for Bendies, remember they have a great turning circle, in fact they would be able to get past tight corners more easily than full size SDs as the front part of a Bendy is shorter than 12 metres. However, I do agree with ilovelondonbuses that the frequency of the X26 should be increased to every 20 mins.
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Post by sid on May 28, 2015 7:33:34 GMT
The X26 deserves bendy buses They could also be 2 door ones so you actually get some seat's in the bus, only problem I could see would be Stand space at Heathrow Not too sure of bendies on the X26, there are a few tight spots in Kingston too, especially towards Croydon. What the route really needs are double deck semi-coaches, like the Leyland Olympian Coach ( these are what I mean) or the Alexander Royale Olympians once used on the Airbus service to and from Central London and Heathrow Double deckers to a similar standard of Stagecoach Gold or Arriva Sapphire would be nice on the X26. The X26 really shows how popular orbital express routes are, it's a shame that there aren't more of them.
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Post by VPL630 on May 28, 2015 7:39:49 GMT
Not too sure of bendies on the X26, there are a few tight spots in Kingston too, especially towards Croydon. What the route really needs are double deck semi-coaches, like the Leyland Olympian Coach ( these are what I mean) or the Alexander Royale Olympians once used on the Airbus service to and from Central London and Heathrow Double deckers to a similar standard of Stagecoach Gold or Arriva Sapphire would be nice on the X26. The X26 really shows how popular orbital express routes are, it's a shame that there aren't more of them. You are still missing the point that people don't want to leave their luggage out of sight
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Post by sid on May 28, 2015 8:42:26 GMT
Double deckers to a similar standard of Stagecoach Gold or Arriva Sapphire would be nice on the X26. The X26 really shows how popular orbital express routes are, it's a shame that there aren't more of them. You are still missing the point that people don't want to leave their luggage out of sight They wouldn't have to, luggage racks could be fitted on the lower deck and anyway the route isn't all about people going to or from Heathrow with luggage
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Post by DT 11 on May 28, 2015 9:14:06 GMT
You are still missing the point that people don't want to leave their luggage out of sight They wouldn't have to, luggage racks could be fitted on the lower deck and anyway the route isn't all about people going to or from Heathrow with luggage Agreed and in addition it can be noted allover the bus anyone carrying luggage has priority to sit on the Lower Deck with the Luggage Racks. The Route has seen full allocations of Double Decker with Metrobus many times before.... In my opinion they were clever for putting deckers on the route pretty much daily and running the route very well. Quality Line run it poor. Has needed Double Deckers for a long time and there is nothing stopping it. The route is just not for Heathrow I agree sid, it stops at many other places, and many of times I have used the X26 to Kingston with people standing up for 40 Mins. May I also note half of the Allocation did not even have Luggage Racks with Metrobus 535-540 as these came from Crawley, so these are very little concern.
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Post by allentc on May 28, 2015 9:51:22 GMT
The X26 could do with the re-introduction of dual door buses. It really does speed up boarding and alighting when MCL01 is on that route.
I also agree more express routes would be nice. The X68 from Croydon to Russell Square is a useful route that I have used from time to time.
Perhaps that should be another thread: "What express routes would you like to see introduced?"
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Post by M1104 on May 28, 2015 10:02:02 GMT
The X26 was one of the few routes where I would of allowed Artics to work on - it's this kind of route where they really work best, a limited stop route or a shuttle route which is what the 507 & 521 effectively is. The X26 deserves bendy buses They could also be 2 door ones so you actually get some seat's in the bus, only problem I could see would be Stand space at Heathrow The Bendies that used to be on the 453 would have been ideal and should have been cascaded to the x26, 507 and 521. There were surely enough buses to accommodate all three routes plus spares and would have saved money from ordering the MECs (on the flip side those buses have potential for routes like the 170, which is screaming for them).
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Post by planesandtrains on Nov 15, 2016 8:12:29 GMT
The 490 and R70 are must candidates. It is simply not acceptable that people are being left behind during rush hour, and often outside these times. While the 33 is TFL's route of choice, this is only going to be double decked pending Hammersmith Bridge. The 33 isn't even the busiest route serving Richmond Road. Although at current Abellio can shove in a cheap joint existing single decker bid for the R70/R68 so I can't see this happening. What annoys me even more is that HH where every SD route but the H22 see's double decker workings, because TFL haven't done a route test.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2016 8:51:44 GMT
The 490 and R70 are must candidates. It is simply not acceptable that people are being left behind during rush hour, and often outside these times. While the 33 is TFL's route of choice, this is only going to be double decked pending Hammersmith Bridge. The 33 isn't even the busiest route serving Richmond Road. Although at current Abellio can shove in a cheap joint existing single decker bid for the R70/R68 so I can't see this happening. What annoys me even more is that HH where every SD route but the H22 see's double decker workings, because TFL haven't done a route test. Prior to TGM and subsequently Abellio running the 68 & 70 , FW used double decks quite frequently, scheduled even on the R70 before the longer DP's came on line. I'm hoping against hope at least the R70 will get decks, hopefully by London United.
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