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Post by DT 11 on Aug 5, 2015 13:50:35 GMT
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Post by Nathan on Aug 5, 2015 14:13:19 GMT
The rumors were true!?
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Post by vjaska on Aug 5, 2015 14:21:18 GMT
Before people start foaming at the mouth, it does say that are considering and not actually confirmed if they are selling anything off. Best to just wait and see.
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Post by ServerKing on Aug 5, 2015 14:40:41 GMT
Before people start foaming at the mouth, it does say that are considering and not actually confirmed if they are selling anything off. Best to just wait and see. It says "DB Schenker Logistics and international passenger bus and train division DB Arriva will be brought together under the finance division. However, Dr Grube noted that the company was “keeping open the option of a partial privatisation in order to utilise growth potential on the international markets as effectively as possible”. But, he added: “ Nothing has been decided yet" Looks like just a corporate reshuffle to bring all subsidiaries under one roof. Arriva, being very successful in Europe as well as the UK wouldn't be up for sale, perhaps the less successful logistics ops. If anything it points to another re-float of the firm on the London Stock Exchange. Noting to see here I did always wonder why the E10's buses never carried DB stickers like the rest of the London fleet, perhaps they knew something we didn't
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Post by M1104 on Aug 5, 2015 14:45:46 GMT
Would be a bit more accurate if the thread title had a question mark at the end
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Post by ilovelondonbuses on Aug 5, 2015 14:46:54 GMT
Even if Deutsche Bahn do put Arriva up for sale. The Arriva name will probably be retained by a new buyer.
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Post by ServerKing on Aug 5, 2015 14:48:24 GMT
Even if Deutsche Bahn do put Arriva up for sale. The Arriva name will probably be retained by a new buyer. Metroline wouldn't keep the name for long, unless they use it for commercial stuff outside London
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Post by stubag on Aug 5, 2015 15:02:07 GMT
I'm reading as they are going to float on the stock exchange. (To raise money companies sell shares their company.) at no point does it say or suggest the end near for Arriva Bus!
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Post by DT 11 on Aug 5, 2015 15:03:57 GMT
Would be a bit more accurate if the thread title had a question mark at the end Agreed, when I was starting the thread I had two options. I was going to just name it "Arriva", but it is not very eyecatching so add the "Up For Sale" bit as well which was option 2. Thanks because now I have added a Question Mark to the title
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Post by ohdear on Aug 5, 2015 15:09:26 GMT
No rumors - it was mentioned at the last AGM but obviously no one noticed
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Post by snoggle on Aug 5, 2015 15:10:03 GMT
I'm reading as they are going to float on the stock exchange. (To raise money companies sell shares their company.) at no point does it say or suggest the end near for Arriva Bus! Is the right answer!!!! No need for forum mass hysteria and speculation. People really need to read the article. DB are quite clear that they are only looking for an injection of private sector cash through a minority offer of shares. They state quite clearly that they are not relinquishing control of any part of DB including Arriva. The other element is a corporate restructuring to reduce the management overhead and thus save money. There is nothing to say this means a reduction in the scale of operations nor any suggestion that Arriva's operations are in any way culpable. The problems appear to rest largely in Germany where they had severe weather problems over the last year and where increasing competition is affecting DB's freight and passenger operations.
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Post by routew15 on Aug 5, 2015 15:16:24 GMT
It would seem the primary focus is for DB to consider part privatising DB Schenker Logistics so that they can pay for the New ICE trains (some of which are meant to run to St Pancras International) and other high cost infrastructure. The secondary focus would then be considering part privatising DB Arriva. That's my understanding of the situation after reading the cargoforwarder article
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Post by DT 11 on Aug 5, 2015 15:18:32 GMT
I'm reading as they are going to float on the stock exchange. (To raise money companies sell shares their company.) at no point does it say or suggest the end near for Arriva Bus! Is the right answer!!!! No need for forum mass hysteria and speculation. People really need to read the article. DB are quite clear that they are only looking for an injection of private sector cash through a minority offer of shares. They state quite clearly that they are not relinquishing control of any part of DB including Arriva. The other element is a corporate restructuring to reduce the management overhead and thus save money. There is nothing to say this means a reduction in the scale of operations nor any suggestion that Arriva's operations are in any way culpable. The problems appear to rest largely in Germany where they had severe weather problems over the last year and where increasing competition is affecting DB's freight and passenger operations. No need to be over the top... Only posted what I read elsewhere on another group. Furthermore I did not make any comments either I posted the links... The original title was somewhat misleading which is now slightly edited, if you have any further suggestions on how to make the thread title make more sense please do comment.
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Post by snoggle on Aug 5, 2015 15:24:46 GMT
No need to be over the top... Only posted what I read elsewhere on another group. Furthermore I did not make any comments either I posted the links... And made a title. Eh? I didn't quote you or remark on anything you said.
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Post by LT 20181 on Aug 5, 2015 15:43:05 GMT
Who are the new buyers, if there are any?
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