Labour mayoral candidate proposal

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Sept 12, 2015 6:21:25 GMT @rgd976 said:

I've just read his website. Another scheme he wants in place is the same basic pay across all bus operators. This will be achieved by TFL putting this into the contracts when renewed gradually once he (if he ) becomes mayor.

If I was the Chief Exec of Ratp Dev I would be starting to make some contingency plans to get out of the London bus market, because it is clear that Khan, backed by Unite Union, will be making it quite a hostile place to run buses.

I'm all for decent pay , but I think what he actually has in mind is some sort of re-nationalisation , albeit in a by the back door kind of way. That's not necessarily the answer to Londons bus problems. Hopefully some people at TfL can advise him accordingly.

This idea of standardising pay has been mooted before, a good idea in theory perhaps but it would obviously reduce competitiveness and would it even be legal for TfL to impose such conditions?

If any operators do pull out it would present a perfect opportunity for a new ETB type set up.

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Sept 12, 2015 6:21:25 GMT @rgd976 said:

I've just read his website. Another scheme he wants in place is the same basic pay across all bus operators. This will be achieved by TFL putting this into the contracts when renewed gradually once he (if he ) becomes mayor.

If I was the Chief Exec of Ratp Dev I would be starting to make some contingency plans to get out of the London bus market, because it is clear that Khan, backed by Unite Union, will be making it quite a hostile place to run buses.

I'm all for decent pay , but I think what he actually has in mind is some sort of re-nationalisation , albeit in a by the back door kind of way. That's not necessarily the answer to Londons bus problems. Hopefully some people at TfL can advise him accordingly.

Worth remembering that Ken paid a supplement to improve bus driver wages so that recruitment and retention was improved. That was essential when you're trying to expand the bus network and need more staff. If that was the plan then that might be sensible given recruitment and retention is a problem again. No shock about that because it happens every time the economy improves.

However some back door attempt at wage equalisation or takeover of routes via a TfL bus company is very unlikely to work. East Thames was not a runaway success and I can't see the point in recreating it as it would simply eat up resources that can be used for other purposes such as genuine improvement.

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Well I won't be voting Mr Kahn in the Mayoral Elections and especially won't be voting Mr Corbyn if he isn't ousted before the next election.

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In my experience of working for a private operator I'd like to see bus operations return to public ownership in London and most certainly across the UK *bombshell dropped* I stress that in London this is primarily from an employee factors point of view, though I also have a few reservations about service strategy too. The best bus network I've used outside of London was Lothian Buses, I think they are a benchmark for how municipal bus services could run.

I agree with Siddiq Khan in principle but he should be more savvy with this and really do his homework to make these cases.

[ServerKing]

He Khan be serious

No one takes Labour seriously since that fool Corbyn took the reins. This sounds like something he would say. Those 'Foreign' operators were the result of TfL's predecessor selling off the various Bus Districts (i.e Cardinal, Forest, Leaside) in the early 90s... sorry to revive a thread this old but it's quids in for Stagecoach and Sullivans if this goes ahead... wait, even GoAhead is part French (Govia), Stagecoach is Scottish, and Sullivan is an Irish surname... Perhaps TfL under Khan will take it all in-house... then give the lot to a 'foreign' operator like what happened to East Thames Buses