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Post by routew15 on Nov 3, 2015 17:35:42 GMT
TfL has launched a consultation today on rerouting the 10, permanently terminating the 7 at Oxford Circus and restoring the 98 back to Holborn. 7, 10 & 98 consultation page• Route 10 would be rerouted away from Tottenham Court Road/Gower Street and Euston Square Station to run via Great Russell Street, Montague Road, Russell Square, Woburn Place, Tavistock Square, Upper Woburn Place and Euston Square to Euston Bus Station. Then as existing. • Route 7 would permanently terminate at Oxford Circus which will help improve reliability by shortening the route. (Route N7 would also follow the day route and terminate at Oxford Circus) • Route 98 would revert to terminating at Holborn, Red Lion Square The consultation closes on Friday 15 December 2015
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Post by DT 11 on Nov 3, 2015 17:39:13 GMT
TfL has launched a consultation today on rerouting the 10, permanently terminating the 7 at Oxford Circus and restoring the 98 back to Holborn. E9 consultation page• Route 10 would be rerouted away from Tottenham Court Road/Gower Street and Euston Square Station to run via Great Russell Street, Montague Road, Russell Square, Woburn Place, Tavistock Square, Upper Woburn Place and Euston Square to Euston Bus Station. Then as existing. • Route 7 would permanently terminate at Oxford Circus which will help improve reliability by shortening the route. (Route N7 would also follow the day route and terminate at Oxford Circus) • Route 98 would revert to terminating at Holborn, Red Lion Square The consultation closes on Friday 15 December 2015 Wrong Link posted, here is the correct one 7, 10 & 98
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Post by snoggle on Nov 3, 2015 17:55:11 GMT
Fairly clever way of taking more resource out of Zone 1 and solving the 7 / 98 conundrum. No more buses needed on the 7, fewer on the 98 and possibly no extras on the 10. It also removes the 10 from the melee while Tottenham Court Road is converted to two way operation. The extra coverage of the 10 might generate a bit more patronage from the Russell Square hotel area to Oxford St with a slightly more convenient service. The proposal also frees up stand space at Russell Square.
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Post by routew15 on Nov 3, 2015 17:57:01 GMT
TfL has launched a consultation today on rerouting the 10, permanently terminating the 7 at Oxford Circus and restoring the 98 back to Holborn. E9 consultation page• Route 10 would be rerouted away from Tottenham Court Road/Gower Street and Euston Square Station to run via Great Russell Street, Montague Road, Russell Square, Woburn Place, Tavistock Square, Upper Woburn Place and Euston Square to Euston Bus Station. Then as existing. • Route 7 would permanently terminate at Oxford Circus which will help improve reliability by shortening the route. (Route N7 would also follow the day route and terminate at Oxford Circus) • Route 98 would revert to terminating at Holborn, Red Lion Square The consultation closes on Friday 15 December 2015 Wrong Link posted, here is the correct one 7, 10 & 98 Thanks for that. Don't even know why that's there I also edited my original post.
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Post by northken on Nov 3, 2015 18:06:11 GMT
I really liked that part of the 7, it was useful for the nearby hospital in Russell Square and added character to the route. I really hope they extend it westwards now that this has been clarified up, it can relieve the 70 and finally provide Acton with a central London link (maybe even Ealing?).
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Nov 3, 2015 18:20:15 GMT
I really liked that part of the 7, it was useful for the nearby hospital in Russell Square and added character to the route. I really hope they extend it westwards now that this has been clarified up, it can relieve the 70 and finally provide Acton with a central London link (maybe even Ealing?). One of TfLs justifications for cutting the 7 back is that it's more reliable. I don't think they will extend it west.
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Post by northken on Nov 3, 2015 18:25:35 GMT
I really liked that part of the 7, it was useful for the nearby hospital in Russell Square and added character to the route. I really hope they extend it westwards now that this has been clarified up, it can relieve the 70 and finally provide Acton with a central London link (maybe even Ealing?). One of TfLs justifications for cutting the 7 back is that it's more reliable. I don't think they will extend it west. That may be the justification given but it's definitely not the main one, more of a cover. It's about saving money and cutting down the number of vehicles along Oxford Street. I'm surprised they haven't curtailed it to Marle Arch, I'm sure that would make it even more 'reliable'. It was perfectly fine beforehand in terms of reliabilty, so it's a rubbish justification from them.
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Post by vjaska on Nov 3, 2015 18:42:57 GMT
I really liked that part of the 7, it was useful for the nearby hospital in Russell Square and added character to the route. I really hope they extend it westwards now that this has been clarified up, it can relieve the 70 and finally provide Acton with a central London link (maybe even Ealing?). One of TfLs justifications for cutting the 7 back is that it's more reliable. I don't think they will extend it west. TfL have form for making inaccurate statements about cutting a route back for 'aiding reliability' when it had no reliability problems such as the 159.
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Post by marlon101 on Nov 3, 2015 19:04:12 GMT
One of TfLs justifications for cutting the 7 back is that it's more reliable. I don't think they will extend it west. That may be the justification given but it's definitely not the main one, more of a cover. It's about saving money and cutting down the number of vehicles along Oxford Street. I'm surprised they haven't curtailed it to Marle Arch, I'm sure that would make it even more 'reliable'. It was perfectly fine beforehand in terms of reliabilty, so it's a rubbish justification from them. The 7 was also extremely lightly used East of Marble Arch - I never found the Oxford Street to Russell Square section heavily used.
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Post by northken on Nov 3, 2015 19:09:29 GMT
That may be the justification given but it's definitely not the main one, more of a cover. It's about saving money and cutting down the number of vehicles along Oxford Street. I'm surprised they haven't curtailed it to Marle Arch, I'm sure that would make it even more 'reliable'. It was perfectly fine beforehand in terms of reliabilty, so it's a rubbish justification from them. The 7 was also extremely lightly used East of Marble Arch - I never found the Oxford Street to Russell Square section heavily used. Huh, I seem to remember decent loadings, but that's just my experiences. It lost something like 600,000 pax last year, but of course it's not revealing over which parts of the route. I mean, I wouldn't oppose it that much if they did curtail to Marble Arch, if it were allowed a westward extension.
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Post by snowman on Nov 3, 2015 19:15:32 GMT
The 7 was also extremely lightly used East of Marble Arch - I never found the Oxford Street to Russell Square section heavily used. Huh, I seem to remember decent loadings, but that's just my experiences. It lost something like 600,000 pax last year, but of course it's not revealing over which parts of the route. I mean, I wouldn't oppose it that much if they did curtail to Marble Arch, if it were allowed a westward extension. I foresee it being cut back to Marble Arch when crossrail opens. Some of the temporary changes have limited excuse time as the number of Crossrail road closures is starting to wind down, I suspect TfL is trying to avoid restoring some sections as the roads gradually reopen.
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Post by thesquirrels on Nov 3, 2015 20:30:06 GMT
One of TfLs justifications for cutting the 7 back is that it's more reliable. I don't think they will extend it west. TfL have form for making inaccurate statements about cutting a route back for 'aiding reliability' when it had no reliability problems such as the 159. To be fair, 'aiding reliability' doesn't necessarily suggest it is at problem levels as it stands, but, yes, it has weasley spin overtones. You could cut the 73 to run Victoria - Marble Arch and I'm sure it would 'aid reliability' immensely!..
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Post by sid on Nov 3, 2015 20:42:26 GMT
That may be the justification given but it's definitely not the main one, more of a cover. It's about saving money and cutting down the number of vehicles along Oxford Street. I'm surprised they haven't curtailed it to Marle Arch, I'm sure that would make it even more 'reliable'. It was perfectly fine beforehand in terms of reliabilty, so it's a rubbish justification from them. The 7 was also extremely lightly used East of Marble Arch - I never found the Oxford Street to Russell Square section heavily used. From what I've seen the 7 is as busy as other routes along Oxford Street
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Post by moz on Nov 3, 2015 21:09:54 GMT
Seems like a sound idea, though it seems a shame they're not taking the opportunity to send a service round by the Brunswick Centre and also get buses a bit closer to Great Ormond Street. Admittedly it would probably mean the 10 no longer serving Euston either, but then the 73 and 390 should be able to cope.
Moz
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Nov 3, 2015 21:20:39 GMT
Seems like a sound idea, though it seems a shame they're not taking the opportunity to send a service round by the Brunswick Centre and also get buses a bit closer to Great Ormond Street. Admittedly it would probably mean the 10 no longer serving Euston either, but then the 73 and 390 should be able to cope. Moz The 10 will continue to serve Euston, in a similar way the 168 does.
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