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Post by snoggle on Dec 18, 2015 16:15:00 GMT
Seems this is due for introduction on 30 Jan 2016 "subject to consultation" aka the "we've already mind our minds" process.
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Post by vjaska on Dec 18, 2015 16:41:19 GMT
Seems this is due for introduction on 30 Jan 2016 "subject to consultation" aka the "we've already mind our minds" process. d*mn, I still need to do the 98 - better get that done in January.
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Post by snoggle on Dec 18, 2015 16:53:39 GMT
Seems this is due for introduction on 30 Jan 2016 "subject to consultation" aka the "we've already mind our minds" process. d*mn, I still need to do the 98 - better get that done in January. I only have to do about 3 stops at the Willesden end of the 98 to tick it off and I did the 7 when it ran from Russell Square so have done that bit and even did the diversion via Fitzrovia when Oxford St had road works months ago.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2015 1:15:07 GMT
We're getting ready for the withdrawal of the 7 once crossrail opens anyway.
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Post by thewintersoldier on Dec 24, 2015 11:17:03 GMT
We're getting ready for the withdrawal of the 7 once crossrail opens anyway. 4th person in the know to tell me this in 2 months.....
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Post by routew15 on Mar 17, 2016 18:33:55 GMT
Route 7, 10 & 98 Outcome
- source: TfL consultation page
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2016 19:08:02 GMT
- source: TfL consultation page This is a good idea so I'm glad it went forward. Someone commented, safety concerns about changing buses? What a load of rubbish. I think they need to warn on routes 10, 73 and 390: "Mind The Gap and don't move your arse from the bus stop"
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Post by routew15 on Mar 17, 2016 19:13:06 GMT
- source: TfL consultation page This is a good idea so I'm glad it went forward. Someone commented, safety concerns about changing buses? What a load of rubbish. I think they need to warn on routes 10, 73 and 390: "Mind The Gap and don't move your a *** from the bus stop" The safety concerns seems to be with changing buses late at night.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2016 19:21:26 GMT
This is a good idea so I'm glad it went forward. Someone commented, safety concerns about changing buses? What a load of rubbish. I think they need to warn on routes 10, 73 and 390: "Mind The Gap and don't move your a *** from the bus stop" The safety concerns seems to be with changing buses late at night. It's never too late in London! All they have to do is stay at the same bus stop. At 10 o'clock at night, I change next to a closed park on Fridays. I feel safe enough.
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Post by northken on Mar 17, 2016 20:12:09 GMT
We're getting ready for the withdrawal of the 7 once crossrail opens anyway. Sorry for the late reply. Do you know what service will replace it?
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Post by snoggle on Mar 17, 2016 20:26:57 GMT
Interesting how TfL have blithely ignored the level of opposition to the route 7 changes. Depending on how you split the statistics there is distinct opposition to keeping route 7 at Oxford Circus. It is also telling that TfL have provided no evidence whatsoever that routes 73 and 390 have sufficient capacity to take up the 10's demand to / from Gower St / TCR. I suspect there will be some problems with this change for Kings Cross and Euston commuters who rely on being able to get on a route that starts / ends at KX.
The other thing is that this is all rather academic really because once Oxford St is pedestrianised then it's a case of "tough ****" so far as people wanting buses from Russell Sq to Oxford St / Oxford Circus is concerned. The whole thing is a travesty and a con - look at the references to "oh it will be quicker by Crossrail". Yes and vastly more expensive, not operating all night and with far longer entry and egress times from street to train at each end of the journey. TfL have quite clearly indicated in their responses that bus passengers can go hang once Crossrail opens across the central area.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2016 20:40:54 GMT
We're getting ready for the withdrawal of the 7 once crossrail opens anyway. Sorry for the late reply. Do you know what service will replace it? Perhaps divert the 31 from Great Western Road via the 7 to Wood Lane then down to White City / Shepherds Bush Green and double deck the 70. I'd expect some seriously strong objections from North Ken residents, That area is most deprived part of the borough, Westbourne Park Road would need a replacement service regardless of Crossrail.
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Post by southlondonbus on Mar 17, 2016 23:01:06 GMT
With the 7 now cut to Oxford circus it's pretty much a duplication merely of the 23 and 70. I can easily see a DD conversion of the 70 with a couple of extra journies (the route has already got busier with the Chiswick business Park extension to justify it) and maybe 1 or 2 extra workings reintroduced to the 23 for TFL to withdrawn the 7 as it will end up having little purpose if passengers from Paddington to Oxo switch to crossrail.
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Post by COBO on Mar 18, 2016 0:24:52 GMT
With the 7 now cut to Oxford circus it's pretty much a duplication merely of the 23 and 70. I can easily see a DD conversion of the 70 with a couple of extra journies (the route has already got busier with the Chiswick business Park extension to justify it) and maybe 1 or 2 extra workings reintroduced to the 23 for TFL to withdrawn the 7 as it will end up having little purpose if passengers from Paddington to Oxo switch to crossrail. But the 70 can't get double deckers due to a certain person in Ladbroke Grove not knowing about curtains.
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Post by rmz19 on Mar 18, 2016 1:29:55 GMT
With the 7 now cut to Oxford circus it's pretty much a duplication merely of the 23 and 70. I can easily see a DD conversion of the 70 with a couple of extra journies (the route has already got busier with the Chiswick business Park extension to justify it) and maybe 1 or 2 extra workings reintroduced to the 23 for TFL to withdrawn the 7 as it will end up having little purpose if passengers from Paddington to Oxo switch to crossrail. I doubt double decking the 70 and increasing the 23's frequency would justify withdrawing the 7. While it seems that the 7 duplicates other routes and arguably has little going for it, it still loads up well throughout and is a major assistance to the 23, upping the 23's PVR would result in bunching and reliabilty issues due to the route's generous running time and traffic hotspots it contends with. At a push, the sensible solution would be to curtail the 7 to Marble Arch once Crossrail opens and give it a useful western extension away from Crossrail. This whole 'Crossrail leading to bus reduction' and 'Pedestrianisation of Oxford Street' thing is driving me up the wall to be honest.
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