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Post by snoggle on Mar 20, 2018 16:14:01 GMT
Interesting. Daft name being used for three different fleets but what do we expect these days? Anyway a few questions that I suspect you'll know the answer to - what happens to the existing Siemens trains that TPE have? Are they leaving the fleet? If they are being cascaded do we know where to? Only 22 of the 51 Class 185s are expected to be sent back to Eversholt Rail, the rest are being kept, not sure of what their future plans are after that. As for the 350/4s, some may already know that they’re all moving to West Midlands Trains. Interesting. I know the 185s are a bit heavy on fuel but they'd be very useful on something like Brighton to Cardiff, Birmingham to Stansted or Liverpool to Norwich - assuming they fit. The extra performance and longer train formations would help on those busy routes where existing trains are a bit overwhelmed. Knowing the ludicrous UK railway they'll probably go the scrap heap instead.
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Post by snowman on Mar 20, 2018 16:35:26 GMT
Only 22 of the 51 Class 185s are expected to be sent back to Eversholt Rail, the rest are being kept, not sure of what their future plans are after that. As for the 350/4s, some may already know that they’re all moving to West Midlands Trains. Interesting. I know the 185s are a bit heavy on fuel but they'd be very useful on something like Brighton to Cardiff, Birmingham to Stansted or Liverpool to Norwich - assuming they fit. The extra performance and longer train formations would help on those busy routes where existing trains are a bit overwhelmed. Knowing the ludicrous UK railway they'll probably go the scrap heap instead. Interesting to see who wants them. I'm aware they have an eco-mode (where one or more engines is shut down) as the full power mode was specified for climbing hills As they only date from 2006 what is the chance of building a trailer car, probably doesn't even need an extra toilet. Would also be brilliant for the rumoured Bristol-Swindon-Oxford service
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Post by snoggle on Mar 20, 2018 17:00:48 GMT
Interesting. I know the 185s are a bit heavy on fuel but they'd be very useful on something like Brighton to Cardiff, Birmingham to Stansted or Liverpool to Norwich - assuming they fit. The extra performance and longer train formations would help on those busy routes where existing trains are a bit overwhelmed. Knowing the ludicrous UK railway they'll probably go the scrap heap instead. Interesting to see who wants them. I'm aware they have an eco-mode (where one or more engines is shut down) as the full power mode was specified for climbing hills As they only date from 2006 what is the chance of building a trailer car, probably doesn't even need an extra toilet. Would also be brilliant for the rumoured Bristol-Swindon-Oxford service I am sure others will correct me if I'm wrong but I think the possibility of extra class 185 trailer cars was explored a number of years ago. There was a time limit on placing orders with Siemens and the DfT prevaricated for so long that the offer from Siemens lapsed and it could be resurrected because of some issue over a change in regulations. The same prevarication killed off the entirely sensible idea to make the 220s and 221s "bi modes" so they could draw electric power when running under wires. Instead we seem happier to be in perpetual hock to the Japanese and Hitachi for the supply of "bi-modes". The next route with a looming crisis is the Midland Main Line where I understand the accessibility regs deadline poses severe issues for the ongoing use of HSTs on the route and there is no spare stock anywhere to take their place as Abellio have bagged most of GWR's HSTs and who knows what is happening on the East Coast given the franchise debacle. There have been rumours that the DfT will use Stagecoach to initiate a closed procurement for a fleet of bimodes for MML that will be taken up by whoever wins the next East Midlands franchise. The decision not to electrify the MML has meant there is no viable hope for the Class 91s and Mk4 from the East Coast. If Class 68 haulage can be justified for Trans Pennine I wonder why class 68s couldn't be deployed with Mk4s on the MML. I guess a key problem might be relative performance of loco hauled trains vs class 700s on the southern end of the MML given the massive intensification of Thameslink services that is pending.
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Post by TNL33036 on Apr 18, 2018 10:34:30 GMT
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Post by rmz19 on Apr 18, 2018 11:30:32 GMT
Very nice interior, stylish and elegant. Reminds me a little of the interiors of the modern intercity Chinese trains to and from Shanghai with the wooden effect and colour scheme
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Post by MoEnviro on Apr 18, 2018 12:55:58 GMT
Very nice interior, stylish and elegant. Reminds me a little of the interiors of the modern intercity Chinese trains to and from Shanghai with the wooden effect and colour scheme Still can’t get the seats to line up with the windows
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Post by TNL33036 on Jul 4, 2018 19:53:24 GMT
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Post by snowman on Jul 17, 2018 13:02:16 GMT
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Post by snoggle on Jul 17, 2018 15:13:04 GMT
You'll excuse me for being extremely cynical about Failing's statement until we get an actual plan that is fully funded and which makes sense. The ideal scheme would provide a fully electrified main and diversionary routes and minimise the use of bi-mode trains. I doubt that will actually happen. To do Trans Pennine properly there would be electrification to Hull, Scarborough and into Teeside but I'll be 10 foot under before that happens. In a further version of the "ideal world" there would also be an electrified route via the Hope Valley from Manchester to Sheffield / Doncaster. Also in a sane world we would be getting Midland Main Line electrification but, oh no, we can't have that.
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Post by galwhv69 on Jul 24, 2018 14:51:05 GMT
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Post by galwhv69 on Aug 3, 2019 11:11:36 GMT
ORR have approved some of the trains
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Oct 26, 2019 19:03:21 GMT
I rode my first Northern 195 today, 195 110 from East Didsbury to Warrington Central. The ride was fairly smooth but as usual for modern trains, it had iron board seating. The worst thing was a table further down the carriage that started to let the rain in from above! I was shocked seeing as it was such a modern train. They may as well have kept the Pacers if this becomes common place.
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Post by MoEnviro on Nov 30, 2019 20:08:00 GMT
397007 entered service today, which means all types of 'Nova' train have entered service. This mean 2 350/4 units should be able move to LNWR tomorrow (at least one of which is already painted in full LNWR livery) and has worked with TPE in such colours. The upcoming December timetable change is likely to be the catalyst for seeing more new trains in service. This is when TPE services get extended from Newcastle to Edinburgh, and most Liverpool-Newcastle-Edinburgh services will be operated by 802 units. To allow 125mph running between York and Newcastle/Edinburgh. There is one problem however and that is lack of driver/guard training (specifically on new trains) but also what seems to be a general shortage of staff, especially at weekends. Looking at the live PPM figures for TPE today, they show that only a mere 39% of all trains where 'on-time', okay there were delays on the WCML around Carlisle but the separate North Transpennine route only managed 41% and South Transpennine route 55% on-time.
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Post by george on Jan 2, 2020 11:03:41 GMT
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Post by T.R. on Jan 2, 2020 11:14:11 GMT
Can’t say I’m surprised, there’s been numerous calls over the last couple of years. Especially with the union disputes, the fallout from the May 2018 timetable change and poor reliability on the west side. Unfortunately there’s also late rolling stock and infrastructure improvements which also need delivering — regardless of who runs it.
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